HOT ! Various 1TB NVMe with coveted E12 Controller $135 aprox retail

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I just got a second one...

Gonna toss it in my x399 and Raid 0 it with my other one.

Ill post results when I'm done.
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The fuck?
Dunno, was gonna give them a call this morning, (they were closed by the time I found this last night) but by then in store pick was the only option.

Oh well, might be for the best. As I understand it these drives can run hot, and since I use this in a laptop cooling can be a problem since I can't really do much in the way of adding additional airflow or anything. I already had a drive die from heat, is what I was looking to replace.
 
So I raided two of these things on my x399.

Abyssmal performance.

Undoing it and going to solo drives.

Screw that crap.
 
Picked up a 512 from the Cambridge store. Only one 256 on the shelf. A fre 512s and 256s in the back, no 1 tb.
 
i must have competition in St. Davids cause there's never a single one... but you run in on yonkers, stacks and stacks....
 
I bought the shelf display one. Still sealed package. BUt they were completely out in Marietta (Atlanta Area) Georgia. This is my second one.
 
It's only in stock in

Overland Park, Kansas
Chicago
Denver

at the moment, but they usually get shipments mid-week or so.
 
So I raided two of these things on my x399.

Abyssmal performance.

Can you be more specific? I've not attempted to do this before, and while I assume that you're trying to do a RAID-0 using the chipset through the UEFI, I'd like to be sure.
 
Can you be more specific? I've not attempted to do this before, and while I assume that you're trying to do a RAID-0 using the chipset through the UEFI, I'd like to be sure.

Yes I put them in 0 on my Gigabyte x399 board.

Reads were 2000'ish and writes were 4000'ish. I played with all kinds of settings.
 
Does anyone know if there is a PCI-E adapter that would allow these to work fast on an older P67 (ASUS P8 P67LE) motherboard? NVME, M.2 confuse me I see tons of adapters but some are hundreds of dollars and others are just like $15.
 
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Its supposed to be a massive amount of endurance on these chips. like 12 - 15 years? It was literally hundreds of thousands of hours

to put this into perspective ...8 years is about 70,000 hours.

I am willing to bet NONE of you here have anything PC related that you're using after 5 years let alone 8

Your good bro ..... you're good ....

I couldn't help but point out you are very wrong on this point. A ton of people here still run 2500k or 2600k CPUs. Also if you are like me and you have kids you like to pass things down and longlevity factors into that. The beauty of PC building is you dont have to upgrade everything, only what matters. I have hard drives and SSDs still running after a very long time. I have some original intel 120GB G2s. And this is not to say that we dont use these computers heavily most of my family members are running GTX 1070s.
I have returned crazy old ram with life time warranties to corsair. There are different personalities around here some are the gotta upgrade itch type, others are the ultra cheap make it last forever type, and some are like me we upgrade when its right and what is right, we focus on when there is either a large increase in speed / performance or a sharp decline in price. This drive qualifies for the sharp decline in price and I know that with these types of speeds I can probably keep these drives for an incredibly long time even if they are eventually demoted to storage only drives for back up files etc... I would like any storage medium I purchase to work that well and work for pretty much ever. I never bought those shit OCZ SSDs and it shows I have never had an SSD fail on me.
 
Thinking of getting the Sabrent 1TB. With the discount and my Amazon Chase cashback, I would spend $106.03. So, is it worth it, since I will be replacing the WD Black 256GB drive and have no real need for the 256GB drive at that point? I have 2 x 1TB Sata drives in that computer and one NVMe drive slot with the 256GB drive. *Sigh* I do not want to spend the money but I only have 300GB left on one the 1TB drives and 120GB or so left on the 256GB drive.

Edit: Nevermind, I purchased one of the Sabrent ones for $99 with 2 day free shipping with an Amazon Prime trial. I use my Amazon Chase card constantly so I also had $14.65 in cash back, which is why I was able to get it for $99.

Thanks for the person who posted about it with the discount code.
 
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Does anyone know if there is a PCI-E adapter that would allow these to work fast on an older P67 (ASUS P8 P67LE) motherboard? NVME, M.2 confuse me I see tons of adapters but some are hundreds of dollars and others are just like $15.

A few things

1.) You can use NVMe drives in older motherboards without m.2 slots with an adapter. If you just want one drive in one slot, simple adapters will do, and they should be cheap. M-key m.2 slots are just 4x pcie slots electrically, so it really winds up being just a passive adapter. (There are also b-key m.2 slots and drives, which are just SATA in an m.2 slot. You don't want these.)

2.) If you want to do something fancy like put two drives in a single 8x slot, your motherboard will either need to support PCIe bifurcation (won't happen on older boards like yours) or you'll need a special expensive adapter with a PLX or PCIe switching chip on board.

3.) If using an adapter on an older board, chances are the NVMe drive WILL NOT BOOT. You can still use it, you just need to do your booting off of another drive. It is also possible to mod your bios to add the booting ability for NVMe drives, but this is somewhat complicated and risky.

4.) You will not get "full" performance unless you stick one of these in an actual 4x (or larger) PCIe Gen 3 (or later) slot. You can get pretty close with 4x PCIe Gen2. Each lane in Gen2 has a total bandwidth of 500MB/s, so four of them - in theory - should give you ~2GB/s. You'll probably lose a little performance to bus overhead beyond this, but max transfer speeds of ~1800 MB/s should be achievable over Gen2 4x. You should still benefit from the low latency of NVMe compared to SATA though.

5.) There may be some sort of PCIe switching device that can take an 8x Gen2 slot, use all of its bandwidth and provide a 4x Gen3 slot. Chances are - however - that it would cost more than buying a newer CPU and motherboard that officially supports these things. Seriously, these PCIe switching boards get expensive ($500+)

Hopefully that helps.
 
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Does anyone know if there is a PCI-E adapter that would allow these to work fast on an older P67 (ASUS P8 P67LE) motherboard? NVME, M.2 confuse me I see tons of adapters but some are hundreds of dollars and others are just like $15.

The short answer is no. P67 chipsets only support up to PCIE 2.0, and do not have NVME support baked in. A fast modern SSD should saturate the controller in your system, anything quicker is probably not going to be noticeable to you.

The long answer is... maybe? I know people have had success modding their stock bios to add NVME support, since Intel did not make anything older than the Z97 and X99 NVME capable. Alternately, you could go with an adapter card that has onboard bios. Either of those options or combining both should let you boot from this drive.

However, as to how fast it will be, that's another issue. The fact that you are limited to PCIE 2.0 will almost certainly impact the speed. If you went with a PCIE x1 adapter you would be better off with a fast SATA SSD. A PCIE 4x adapter into a 4x, 8x or 16x slot will do better, but may still hinder the drive's performance. Unfortunately, your motherboard is getting up there in age. I lived with a P67 chipset until 2 years ago when my motherboard burned up. There are so many features that newer boards have, it really is time to consider making the move.
 
I have a windows 7 install on previous NVME (Toshiba XG3) which I imaged with Macrium Reflect onto regular HDD. Swapped out for the Inland NVME and restored with macrium reflect. Now windows 7 tries to boot, but gets to the splash screen (windows is starting..) and then system reboots. How can I fix this?
 
Not booting is no problem I just need a drive to replace a failing storage hdd. I am not ready to upgrade this rig but at the same time dont want to waste money on SATA or HDD. And since these drives are so cheap I might as well try to make it work.

They had an adapter at microcenter for $16 so I grabbed it. Unfortunately I ended up with the 512 ssd instead of 1 tb
 
Just ordered a 1TB Premium model for $105 + shipping & tax. Total was just under $120. That's a steal. I bought my first 512GB SSD from Micro Center 7 years ago for $700.
 
I have a windows 7 install on previous NVME (Toshiba XG3) which I imaged with Macrium Reflect onto regular HDD. Swapped out for the Inland NVME and restored with macrium reflect. Now windows 7 tries to boot, but gets to the splash screen (windows is starting..) and then system reboots. How can I fix this?

Reload with WIndows 10 :LOL:
 
i got a rocket-512 says it has a 12.2 firmware but crystal disk mark says its bad and post no info on health or temp, anyone experience this before?

drives working fine from what i can see.
 
Reload with WIndows 10 :LOL:
Reinstalling the os might be the quickest route. I had a W10 splash screen failure to boot after using the clone software that comes with a samsung ssd.
I troubleshot it for 5 hours. It took less than 5 to copy the customers data, reinstall 10 and all the programs, printers, scanners etc.
 
Though I did just use Macrium to image my 960 Pro to my Inland Premium when I switched to this new one
 
i got a rocket-512 says it has a 12.2 firmware but crystal disk mark says its bad and post no info on health or temp, anyone experience this before?

drives working fine from what i can see.

Try looking at it with HD Sentinel. That might provide more information.
 
I couldn't help but point out you are very wrong on this point. A ton of people here still run 2500k or 2600k CPUs. Also if you are like me and you have kids you like to pass things down and longlevity factors into that. The beauty of PC building is you dont have to upgrade everything, only what matters. I have hard drives and SSDs still running after a very long time. I have some original intel 120GB G2s. And this is not to say that we dont use these computers heavily most of my family members are running GTX 1070s.
I have returned crazy old ram with life time warranties to corsair. There are different personalities around here some are the gotta upgrade itch type, others are the ultra cheap make it last forever type, and some are like me we upgrade when its right and what is right, we focus on when there is either a large increase in speed / performance or a sharp decline in price. This drive qualifies for the sharp decline in price and I know that with these types of speeds I can probably keep these drives for an incredibly long time even if they are eventually demoted to storage only drives for back up files etc... I would like any storage medium I purchase to work that well and work for pretty much ever. I never bought those shit OCZ SSDs and it shows I have never had an SSD fail on me.

I have crucial m4 ssd's with 7 years 24/7 uptime. And they still show 85+% lifespan. They were in an SQL server. So the writes are incredibly high. Shows how good ssd really are.

But yeah some of us use hardware for years. I still have an APC UPS pro rack mount that is over 13 years old. My nas is still a Sandy Bridge Xeon e5-1650 quad core with 48gb of DDDr3. It's coming up on what 7 plus years old now? Been running 24/7 the entire damn time minus a couple maintenance windows and long power outage from storms.
 
wow...mine was shipped fedex and was probably over packed if thats even possible. sorry to see yours came like that
I drove down to microcenter today to exchange it and buy a 2nd for my laptop. All good now.
 
If you check the tracking it is likely USPS Smart Post in conjunction with FedEx. That is how mine are coming. Like a week...
 
Cloned my win10 box over to it already from my 512GB 950 Pro

Gonna partition the other half of this drive with a different letter so that I can easily move everything that is installed on one of my other SSDs to this one w/o re-installing stuff.

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So I raided two of these things on my x399.

Abyssmal performance.

Undoing it and going to solo drives.

Screw that crap.

There is more to it than just throwing them in a RAID-0 and calling it a day. You need to overclock or maintain a steady clock speed on Threadripper in order to get good performance out of RAID-0. Try disabling core-parking and lock your clock speed and do the test again. For example, the first pic is on a Samsung 960 Pro RAID-0 when I have my motherboard set to "Auto" (precision boost) and the second is when I have this exact same setup but my CPU hard set to all cores at 4250MHz:

***EDIT*** forgot to mention, but I think I had 4 drives at the time when I was doing this.

Core speed on Auto:

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Core speed clocked at 4250MHz:

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