Ryzen 3 3200G appears in the wild, uses soldered TIM

A Chinese user delid the Ryzen 3 3200G, only to kill it in the process.

He found that it uses soldered TIM, a change from the previous generation.

Ryzen 3 3200G features 4 cores and 4 threads.

Ryzen 5 3400G features 4 cores and 8 threads.

Both processors overclock about 300 MHz higher compared to their 2nd gen predecessors.

First image shows the Ryzen 3 3200G while the second image shows the Ryzen 5 2400G



https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1987349-1-1.html

One thing is for certain....he killed the shit out of that CPU!

At least he tested it before the delid attempt. Lesson learned for the next guy. Even if you heated up the IHS enough to desolder it and then use liquid metal TIM and a direct contact waterblock, you're probably never going to get enough of an improvement on these lower end chips to make it worthwhile.

Ouch, looks like he has a new keychain...

This is more in-line with what people were expecting from the 3000 G-series chips (Zen+ same number of cores), not the dreams of those idiots whom think it will be 8-core native Zen 2.0 G this year.

The good thing is, if Zen 2.0 is expected to start at 6 cores at $150, then the 4c/4t part will probably drop to $79 to make room. And the 4c/8t could drop to $119. That would make an awfully attractive upgrade for the ancient Core i3 in my HTPC.

good to hear the TIM has changed, but not sure if it will be necessary on a quad core part.

whateverer said:

The good thing is, if Zen 2.0 is expected to start at 6 cores at $150

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6 cores probably starts at $199 like the previous generation

You guys think the 3200g will have a better graphics apu than the 2400g?

Don't expect the 3200G to be better than the 2400G on graphics. The 2400G has 11 compute cores while the 3200G may have only 8 as far as we know like the 2200G. It obviously clocks higher if this leak is true.

This guy is probably Taiwanese, or a citizen of Hong Kong or Macau. His writing is in traditional Chinese characters as opposed to simplified. #randomfacts

_mockingbird said:

6 cores probably starts at $199 like the previous generation

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Says the man who doesn't understand the 7nm invasion that's about to begin. Zen 2.0 mainstream platform has up to TWO 8-cores and a memory controller. Expect the launch to have 12c/24t at 9900k price, with 10/20 cores at 9700k price, and 8/16 cores at 9600k price, and 6 cores/12 threads for UNDER i5 9400 prices. The i5 9400 price is currently $170, so of course Zen 6-core is expected to hit $150.

At least Intel got the message, because they're making some preemptive price cuts. Yes, that's an Intel 6-core processor on Amazon at MSRP of $170!

Their Core i3s in the 9000 series are also getting turbo boost for the first time ever, instead of just adding HT, so I expect AMD to drop the price of the 3400G down to that level. You'd better fucking believe Intel is taking this shit seriously

Get ready for the biggest processor war since the Athlon 64 release.

Yeah, because I just picked up a Ryzen 2600 at $150 flat today, along with a B450 motherboard for next to nothing. That's going to upgrade the user's 5 year old i5 gaming machine. They already have a video card so it was a perfect fit. Old i5 becomes a office machine.

At least the processors are close to parity on cost/perf now. AMD still edged this one out, but only because the CPU was $20 cheaper and the motherboard... not sure but at least $20-30 cheaper than something comparable from Intel.

I've been using a hell of a lot of AMD products recently. Intel needs to figure out how to be price competitive. This is a step in the right direction.

Although for basic systems when on-board video is used they need to pull a rabbit out of their hat because the Vega graphics on the AMD CPUs is eating Intel's lunch. They don't have anything anywhere close. And right now people don't need more CPU performance on basic systems, but a little more graphics capability is a good selling point.

whateverer said:

Says the man who doesn't understand the 7nm invasion that's about to begin. Zen 2.0 mainstream platform has up to TWO 8-cores and a memory controller. Expect the launch to have 12c/24t at 9900k price, with 10/20 cores at 9700k price, and 8/16 cores at 9600k price, and 6 cores/12 threads for UNDER i5 9400 prices. The i5 9400 price is currently $170, so of course Zen 6-core is expected to hit $150.

At least Intel got the message, because they're making some preemptive price cuts. Yes, that's an Intel 6-core processor on Amazon at MSRP of $170!

Their Core i3s in the 9000 series are also getting turbo boost for the first time ever, instead of just adding HT, so I expect AMD to drop the price of the 3400G down to that level. You'd better fucking believe Intel is taking this shit seriously

Get ready for the biggest processor war since the Athlon 64 release.

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It would be nice if something like that happened, but people really need to keep their expectations in check. Over hyping a product does not do anyone good. Its better to set lower expectations and be surprised then to massively over hype something and cause people to be disappointed. We've seen this play out with the last few generations of AMD cards. Fans hype the holy fuck out the cards and then they end up being simply "alright" yet everyone is super disappointed due to the insane hype from the community. People should really be careful not to let that happen to Zen processors.

Derangel said:

It would be nice if something like that happened, but people really need to keep their expectations in check. Over hyping a product does not do anyone good. Its better to set lower expectations and be surprised then to massively over hype something and cause people to be disappointed. We've seen this play out with the last few generations of AMD cards. Fans hype the holy fuck out the cards and then they end up being simply "alright" yet everyone is super disappointed due to the insane hype from the community. People should really be careful not to let that happen to Zen processors.

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Prices aren't going to go any higher than they already are. And for that, the starting point of a latest-generation AMD 6-core 12-thread r5 2600 part is now $165. Even if they don't go lower on launch day, the prices will fall quickly (as yields improve), as AMD shoots for better market share over Intel.

Allegedly shows in the wild. Oh well, dead is dead with that cpu.