New parts from Intel for the datacenter - including a 56c/112t monster

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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ter-56-core-xeons-10nm-fpgas-100gig-ethernet/

The highlight is the Xeon Platinum 9282, running at a base clock of 2.6GHz with a turbo of 3.8GHz, 77MB of L3 cache, and hamburger frying 400w TDP. Pricing is not publicly available as this is an OEM/SI only part. As Ars puts it, "it'll be somewhere north of expensive." No doubt.

The 2nd Gen Xeon Scalables will start at just over $10,000 and will top out at 28c/56t, 2.7GHz base and 4GHz turbo, 37.5MB of L3 cache, and 205w TDP.

Also pictured is Optane DC Persistent memory, and the Xeon D-1600 series ranging from 2c/4t and 27w TDP to 8c/16t and 65w TDP. Hit the link for the skinny.

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You know what they say, "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it." My guess is that it will be in the high 5 figures per chip with systems costing in the mid to low 6 figures fully configured, hopefully supporting somewhere north of 2TB of ECC RAM. *insert "all the VMs" meme*
 
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this thing is a nuclear turd... can it be used as a makeshift direct energy weapon?
 
JustinCorrigible said:
I thought that RAM at first was just for scale... those are HUGE cpus.
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Greater surface area for increased thermal contact for cooling.

56cores, I'd be looking really hard if my primary licenses are priced by the socket vs by the core. Even if I had to upgrade some cooling in the server room, licenses get freaking expensive.
 
lcpiper said:
Greater surface area for increased thermal contact for cooling.

56cores, I'd be looking really hard if my primary licenses are priced by the socket vs by the core. Even if I had to upgrade some cooling in the server room, licenses get freaking expensive.
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Same here at work... the price of the physical CPU itself is a drop in the bucket compared to the software cost.
 
How soon until they have add on attachments like a hot plate or a deep fryer to take advantage of that heat? Maybe a popcorn maker?
 
Yea that's a small rack actually. we use I believe 44 U racks for our servers.

And to me 56 cores in a socket is overkill and not much of a speed boost. What s sexy are those 28 core units at 2.7 ghz. that's not a bad deal for VM hosts. A pair of those in a 2u chassis with 768gb or 1tb of ram. That could be good.
 
Grimlaking said:
And to me 56 cores in a socket is overkill and not much of a speed boost.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the real applications for this level of core density and per-core performance are pretty limited.

Not that it wouldn't be cool to work with them, but I can't say that outside of being an expensive VM host, what the cost/benefit would be with the per-node limits of storage and network fabric.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the real applications for this level of core density and per-core performance are pretty limited.

Not that it wouldn't be cool to work with them, but I can't say that outside of being an expensive VM host, what the cost/benefit would be with the per-node limits of storage and network fabric.
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I see where you're going and in truth I agree. The cost for a loaded host with let's say 4 socket 56 core (at 25k a cpu I'm sure) system loaded with... 4 tb of ram. With tons of i/o connectivity and 40gb network ports. You're talking 350k in hardware per system.. And if you're using this as a database host server you will need at least two of these. Probably spend a half million on a large/fast storage array to feed the IOPS need. Maybe two of them for storage redundancy. So you're at 1.5 call it 2 million for network switches and assundry services to feed that size of a beast.. Then realize you've just started scratching the surface on cost.

The nightmare begins whe you realize you have to license sql to the number of physical cores. Let's do some aggressive rounding down and call it 14k per two cores. At 56 cores a socket.. 112 times 14...
1568 thousand in licensing sql enterprise on a core license plan.

You need some specialized apps that can handle and use that many cores without crazy licensing.
 
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Grimlaking said:
I see where you're going and in truth I agree. The cost for a loaded host with let's say 4 socket 56 core (at 25k a cpu I'm sure) system loaded with... 4 tb of ram. With tons of i/o connectivity and 40gb network ports. You're talking 350k in hardware per system.. And if you're using this as a database host server you will need at least two of these. Probably spend a half million on a large/fast storage array to feed the IOPS need. Maybe two of them for storage redundancy. So you're at 1.5 call it 2 million for network switches and assundry services to feed that size of a beast.. Then realize you've just started scratching the surface on cost.

The nightmare begins whe you realize you have to license sql to the number of physical cores. Let's do some aggressive rounding down and call it 14k per two cores. At 56 cores a socket.. 112 times 14...
1568 thousand in licensing sql enterprise on a core license plan.

You need some specialized apps that can handle and use that many cores without crazy licensing.
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Or, just use PostgreSQL...pure profit! /s
 
Crazy to think how fast technology advances. I remember when the 980x dropped and my mind was blown that it had SIX cores. Now this comes along. I wonder where things will be in 20 years!
 
There's a cpu shortage... Intel: hold my beer.
Why waste resources in this pig?
 
This must be Kyle's doing. He has made a CPU/Ratpadz/handwarmer all-in-one.
 
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