My 2018 Linux Test

Ok, I honestly have no idea how I got the nvidia card turned off in my laptop, but after a reboot of trying something it was disabled.

I tried the nvidia-xrun instructions, it kept downloading an empty directory.

So I switched to the Optimus instructions, and that didn't seem to work.

Next I switched to the Bumblebee instructions, and while it did disable the nvidia card, X would crash when generating the config file using Xorg :0 -configure.

So I went to the Dell XPS 9560 page in the Arch wiki and it had the exact scenario I was running into where X would lockup.

So, I had to add a command to the GRUB kernel parameters by editing /etc/default/grub to include the line acpi_rev_override=1. So that line looks like:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi_rev_override=1"

I regenerated the GRUB config file with grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg, rebooted, and Xorg :0 -config finally generated a file without locking up. Copied the temp config file from /root/X11 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, rebooted, and at least that seems to be working.
 
Ok, I honestly have no idea how I got the nvidia card turned off in my laptop, but after a reboot of trying something it was disabled.

I tried the nvidia-xrun instructions, it kept downloading an empty directory.

So I switched to the Optimus instructions, and that didn't seem to work.

Next I switched to the Bumblebee instructions, and while it did disable the nvidia card, X would crash when generating the config file using Xorg :0 -configure.

So I went to the Dell XPS 9560 page in the Arch wiki and it had the exact scenario I was running into where X would lockup.

So, I had to add a command to the GRUB kernel parameters by editing /etc/default/grub to include the line acpi_rev_override=1. So that line looks like:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi_rev_override=1"

I regenerated the GRUB config file with grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg, rebooted, and Xorg :0 -config finally generated a file without locking up. Copied the temp config file from /root/X11 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, rebooted, and at least that seems to be working.

Did you already have the NV drivers installed before it was disabled? What was the change you made?
 
Did you already have the NV drivers installed before it was disabled? What was the change you made?

Yes, I had to install the nvidia driver before I could do anything. With the nouveau driver installed, every time I ran lspci the machine would lockup hard. I found this was a known issue.

I kept running into an issue with the Xorg configuration returning some bogus error message whenever I tried to run it after doing some configuration stuff with bumblebee and bbswitch.

I swear my head hurts working through some of this stuff. It gets so convoluted at times the way the wiki is written.
 
Yes, I had to install the nvidia driver before I could do anything. With the nouveau driver installed, every time I ran lspci the machine would lockup hard. I found this was a known issue.

I kept running into an issue with the Xorg configuration returning some bogus error message whenever I tried to run it after doing some configuration stuff with bumblebee and bbswitch.

I swear my head hurts working through some of this stuff. It gets so convoluted at times the way the wiki is written.

Assuming the system is Optimus based with Intel and NV why not just run the Intel card while learning and introducing NV later? Optimus systems just suck. ;)
 
Assuming the system is Optimus based with Intel and NV why not just run the Intel card while learning and introducing NV later? Optimus systems just suck. ;)

That's exactly what I'm trying to do. I first just want to get the system up and running with the Intel card and work on integrating the nvidia card later.

This is proving to be problematic.

Here's what I've done so far.

Installed the basic Arch package. -Working
Installed wpa_supplicant, dialog, and setup wifi-menu to auto load through netctl on boot. -Working
Installed X via xorg-server, xorg-apps, and xorg.
Installed nVidia driver via nvidia.
Installed bbswitch, bumblebee.

I have to add a line to the grub configuration and I'm struggling with this.

I need to add "acpi_rev_override=1" to the kernel parameters in the GRUB configuration file. The problem is when I add this, I have to run grub-mkconfig. When I ran grub-mkconfig during installation, os-prober found my Windows install and I could dual boot from the grub boot menu. Now, when I run grub-mkconfig it doesn't detect my Windows partition.

As I was typing this I finally noticed I needed to download ntfs-3g for os-prober and grub-mkconfig to be able to detect my windows partition to include it in the grub config file.

*sigh*

I've started a spreadsheet to keep track of all the dependencies I need to keep track of.
 
That's exactly what I'm trying to do. I first just want to get the system up and running with the Intel card and work on integrating the nvidia card later.

This is proving to be problematic.

Here's what I've done so far.

Installed the basic Arch package. -Working
Installed wpa_supplicant, dialog, and setup wifi-menu to auto load through netctl on boot. -Working
Installed X via xorg-server, xorg-apps, and xorg.
Installed nVidia driver via nvidia.
Installed bbswitch, bumblebee.

I have to add a line to the grub configuration and I'm struggling with this.

I need to add "acpi_rev_override=1" to the kernel parameters in the GRUB configuration file. The problem is when I add this, I have to run grub-mkconfig. When I ran grub-mkconfig during installation, os-prober found my Windows install and I could dual boot from the grub boot menu. Now, when I run grub-mkconfig it doesn't detect my Windows partition.

As I was typing this I finally noticed I needed to download ntfs-3g for os-prober and grub-mkconfig to be able to detect my windows partition to include it in the grub config file.

*sigh*

I've started a spreadsheet to keep track of all the dependencies I need to keep track of.

Why are you installing bumblebee? In the Optimus part of the wiki they have instructions on using xrandr and xinitrc to force NV over Intel so you don't need bumblebee and that's what I used on my 5510 before it died. Worked so much better than Bumblebee.

And yeah when dual booting there is more needed since Windows is NTFS.
 
Why are you installing bumblebee? In the Optimus part of the wiki they have instructions on using xrandr and xinitrc to force NV over Intel so you don't need bumblebee and that's what I used on my 5510 before it died. Worked so much better than Bumblebee.

And yeah when dual booting there is more needed since Windows is NTFS.

That's what they're recommending on the Dell XPS 15 9560 article in the Arch Wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_15_9560#Disable_discrete_GPU
 
Why are you installing bumblebee? In the Optimus part of the wiki they have instructions on using xrandr and xinitrc to force NV over Intel so you don't need bumblebee and that's what I used on my 5510 before it died. Worked so much better than Bumblebee.

And yeah when dual booting there is more needed since Windows is NTFS.

I'll give it a try over the other and see how it goes. It can't go any worse.
 
Wow, still not working. :(

So I started from scratch again, reinstalled Arch on the laptop.

I documented everything so I could remember everything since there was so much to do.

First, I installed X via xorg-server, xorg-apps, and xorg.
Second, I installed the nvidia drivers via nvidia.
Third, I installed xorg-xrandr.
Fourth, I configured X with Xorg :0 -configure.
Fifth, I confirmed the PCI address in xorg.conf was PCI:1:0:0.
Sixth, I modified the xorg.conf file per the instructions on the Optimus page:

While technically I was able to get X to start, dealing with this is extremely frustrating.

Trying to figure out which configuration file is controlling what, or how many config files are being used at one time is ridiculous.

I really need to try and get a better understanding of X and the xorg.conf file. I read all this crap and just type it in but I have no idea what it even means half the time. I could be copying code that institutes War Games for all I know. :p
 
Honestly I was going to wipe Arch and just install Fedora 29 to try it out on my laptop, but as Fedora suffers from the same lack of support for Optimus as Arch, I may as well stick with what I know.

Fedora hung on boot up at activating Gnome. Did some research and someone basically copied the steps I've been following from the Arch Wiki to try and fix Fedora. Or Arch copied Fedora. Who knows.
 
Wow, still not working. :(

So I started from scratch again, reinstalled Arch on the laptop.

I documented everything so I could remember everything since there was so much to do.

First, I installed X via xorg-server, xorg-apps, and xorg.
Second, I installed the nvidia drivers via nvidia.
Third, I installed xorg-xrandr.
Fourth, I configured X with Xorg :0 -configure.
Fifth, I confirmed the PCI address in xorg.conf was PCI:1:0:0.
Sixth, I modified the xorg.conf file per the instructions on the Optimus page:

While technically I was able to get X to start, dealing with this is extremely frustrating.

Trying to figure out which configuration file is controlling what, or how many config files are being used at one time is ridiculous.

I really need to try and get a better understanding of X and the xorg.conf file. I read all this crap and just type it in but I have no idea what it even means half the time. I could be copying code that institutes War Games for all I know. :p

Funny thing is I've never had to play with xorg.conf before with Arch.

I boot the livecd.
do LUKS and base install and chroot into the system
I configure my mirrors and then finish the initial setup. before rebooting I then install Xorg, my DE, my display manager, Pulse and networkmanager. Arch by default installs the Intel driver for me with Xorg.
I finally do the initial reboot then. system dumps me to command prompt. I start my DE to make sure it runs. then I enable my display manager. Right now I'm using XFCE for my DE, LightDM for DM, and KWin as my Window Manager.

After that then I then finally install the Nvidia drivers and then follow the instructions in the Wiki here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus#LightDM

I use that to install xrandr and configure LightDM to force the NV card to be the one in use. That always worked perfectly on Arch on my old 5510. Really miss that laptop right now... :(
 
Funny thing is I've never had to play with xorg.conf before with Arch.

I boot the livecd.
do LUKS and base install and chroot into the system
I configure my mirrors and then finish the initial setup. before rebooting I then install Xorg, my DE, my display manager, Pulse and networkmanager. Arch by default installs the Intel driver for me with Xorg.
I finally do the initial reboot then. system dumps me to command prompt. I start my DE to make sure it runs. then I enable my display manager. Right now I'm using XFCE for my DE, LightDM for DM, and KWin as my Window Manager.

After that then I then finally install the Nvidia drivers and then follow the instructions in the Wiki here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus#LightDM

I use that to install xrandr and configure LightDM to force the NV card to be the one in use. That always worked perfectly on Arch on my old 5510. Really miss that laptop right now... :(

Yeah, this crap is what has always turned me off about Linux. Honestly, I know Optimus isn't Linux's fault. Lack of support for it isn't Linux's fault. But after this many years not having a solution for it that makes sense is kind of Linux's fault.

I mean, using more than one monitor has been around for a while. Using more than one video card has been around almost as long as Linux. Switching between one video card for 2D/Desktop and another for 3D rendering; that was a thing in 1996/1997 with the Diamond Monster 3D.

Yet here we are 22 years later still mired with it not working well at all.

I'm going to keep plugging away at it though. Maybe somehow I'll get it to work.
 
It's definitely frustrating- and I can't say I've grappled with the issues myself.

However, I do have an Optimus-equipped laptop, an old Clevo with a 3000-series i7 quad and a 500-series GPU that is currently sitting idle that I can try out.
 
Yeah, this crap is what has always turned me off about Linux. Honestly, I know Optimus isn't Linux's fault. Lack of support for it isn't Linux's fault. But after this many years not having a solution for it that makes sense is kind of Linux's fault.

I mean, using more than one monitor has been around for a while. Using more than one video card has been around almost as long as Linux. Switching between one video card for 2D/Desktop and another for 3D rendering; that was a thing in 1996/1997 with the Diamond Monster 3D.

Yet here we are 22 years later still mired with it not working well at all.

I'm going to keep plugging away at it though. Maybe somehow I'll get it to work.

There is only one place to lay the blame. Nvidia.

If you had Intel and AMD GPUs in your system zero issue. Heck even if you had mobile PowerVR or something with AMD or Intel zero issue.

The problem is Nvidia not providing proper open source drivers >.< Nvidia no matter what they claim seem to hate Linux. It seems to me the only reason they support Linux at all is to cover their big AI / Server customers. Even in those circles Nvidia is pretty well hated. Its nice to see google award their GPU server contract for Stadia to AMD.

Nvidias closed source bolt onto the kernel drivers are NOT built to play nice with open source drivers for a second video card. The fault for that is 100% in nvidias court. If the driver was open source it wouldn't need to be attached to the kernel... and the open source driver folks (Intel in this case we aren't talking basement coders here) could easilly hook what is required to make things work easy peasy. As it is they are guessing almost in the dark... and its a miracle any of the X GPU + Nvidia stuff ever works under Linux.

Intels XE stuff can't come fast enough. It will be nice when Nvidia is booted out of laptops for good. Laptops are always annoying enough with stupid semi custom hardware bits without having to deal with hair brain dual GPU setups. I get that dual GPUs have been around forever.

Fuck Nvidia.
 
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What is AMD's solution?

Open source drivers. AMD doesn't require kernel bolting to work. Of course Linux can address multiple GPUs it can address countless GPUs. The issue is nvidias closed source driver takes over most of the graphics pipeline and no longer plays nice with the free kernel drivers in the kernel be they Intel AMD or anyone else.

If you mean no one has shipped a Intel laptop with and AMD GPU your right. I guess we could blame Intel as well for not making GPUs or better APUs. Intel is planning to change that. So upside in the future we aren't going to be seeing a ton of Intel APU + Nvidia GPU dual mode laptops anymore.
 
So upside in the future we aren't going to be seeing a ton of Intel APU + Nvidia GPU dual mode laptops anymore.

I'm betting we'll see fewer MX250-class GPUs, but IGPs are going to remain limited.

If you mean no one has shipped a Intel laptop with and AMD GPU your right.

Here's the thing: we're not seeing a solution from AMD that compares to Optimus. You can whine all you wish about Nvidia keeping their driver closed, but that's their prerogative- it gets the FOSS zealots in a twizzle, sure, and otherwise has very little operational effect.

The issue here is not closed vs. open. It's that Nvidia's solution to running two GPUs through one (set of) output(s) while dynamically switching between the two for balancing power draw and performance on mobile platforms is a bit beyond the current state of Linux development. No two ways about it, and it's not like Linux 'desktop' support for mobile devices is that well off to start with.
 
It's definitely frustrating- and I can't say I've grappled with the issues myself.

However, I do have an Optimus-equipped laptop, an old Clevo with a 3000-series i7 quad and a 500-series GPU that is currently sitting idle that I can try out.

Be thankful. I just feel like all the instructions, be it optimus, xps 15 9560, bumblebee, xrandr, bbswitch, whatever, are missing just enough information to make it impossible for me to get it to work.
 
There is only one place to lay the blame. Nvidia.

If you had Intel and AMD GPUs in your system zero issue. Heck even if you had mobile PowerVR or something with AMD or Intel zero issue.

The problem is Nvidia not providing proper open source drivers >.< Nvidia no matter what they claim seem to hate Linux. It seems to me the only reason they support Linux at all is to cover their big AI / Server customers. Even in those circles Nvidia is pretty well hated. Its nice to see google award their GPU server contract for Stadia to AMD.

Nvidias closed source bolt onto the kernel drivers are NOT built to play nice with open source drivers for a second video card. The fault for that is 100% in nvidias court. If the driver was open source it wouldn't need to be attached to the kernel... and the open source driver folks (Intel in this case we aren't talking basement coders here) could easilly hook what is required to make things work easy peasy. As it is they are guessing almost in the dark... and its a miracle any of the X GPU + Nvidia stuff ever works under Linux.

Intels XE stuff can't come fast enough. It will be nice when Nvidia is booted out of laptops for good. Laptops are always annoying enough with stupid semi custom hardware bits without having to deal with hair brain dual GPU setups. I get that dual GPUs have been around forever.

Fuck Nvidia.

Yeah, any company in a position of market dominance ends up going down this exact path of making decisions that only benefit their bottom line. Until the point it does affect their bottom line and then they're like, oh wait, we'll change, we love you guys!

That song and dance has gotten pretty annoying the past 20 years or so. Intel is going through the makeup phase right now. Microsoft too.
 
Hey folks, if anyone is interested, Pop!_OS works right out of the box with Optimus-enabled laptops: I have it running on an HP ZBook. Just download the NVIDIA iso version for the Dell mentioned above.
 
Hey folks, if anyone is interested, Pop!_OS works right out of the box with Optimus-enabled laptops: I have it running on an HP ZBook. Just download the NVIDIA iso version for the Dell mentioned above.

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS worked great too- but I didn't try to game on them, so I have no idea if Optimus itself is rolling.
 
Hey folks, if anyone is interested, Pop!_OS works right out of the box with Optimus-enabled laptops: I have it running on an HP ZBook. Just download the NVIDIA iso version for the Dell mentioned above.

I just saw something about Pop the other day. Which hardware manufacturer is backing it?
 
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS worked great too- but I didn't try to game on them, so I have no idea if Optimus itself is rolling.

I read Ubuntu has optimus support right out of the box. I'm going to give it a shot here in a min just to see if it works. I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu but if it works...
 
I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu but if it works...

I don't have a reason to not be a fan, but in the consumer space Ubuntu is probably the most targeted distro for development (while RHEL/CentOS run Enterprise, in the states at least...). So most of my VMs and workstations are running Ubuntu out of necessity and I've more or less gotten used to it.
 
I don't have a reason to not be a fan, but in the consumer space Ubuntu is probably the most targeted distro for development (while RHEL/CentOS run Enterprise, in the states at least...). So most of my VMs and workstations are running Ubuntu out of necessity and I've more or less gotten used to it.

I can see that being the case. I tried installing Ubuntu a few minutes ago and there's a known issue with it hanging during installation on the XPS 15 9560 and sure enough, it wouldn't install. While attempting to figure out why it wouldn't install, someone mentioned Kubuntu installed on their 9560 without a problem. So, I'm installing Kubuntu right now and sure enough, it is installing just fine. We'll see how things go after installation and reboot.
 
I roll Ubuntu Mate myself for desktop stuff- can't say whether that would affect your specific Dell though. I do plan to keep an eye on it, as I'd like to go back to Dell for my ultrabook, supposing they come to their senses a bit with the next gen.
 
There is only one place to lay the blame. Nvidia.

If you had Intel and AMD GPUs in your system zero issue. Heck even if you had mobile PowerVR or something with AMD or Intel zero issue.

The problem is Nvidia not providing proper open source drivers >.< Nvidia no matter what they claim seem to hate Linux. It seems to me the only reason they support Linux at all is to cover their big AI / Server customers. Even in those circles Nvidia is pretty well hated. Its nice to see google award their GPU server contract for Stadia to AMD.

Nvidias closed source bolt onto the kernel drivers are NOT built to play nice with open source drivers for a second video card. The fault for that is 100% in nvidias court. If the driver was open source it wouldn't need to be attached to the kernel... and the open source driver folks (Intel in this case we aren't talking basement coders here) could easilly hook what is required to make things work easy peasy. As it is they are guessing almost in the dark... and its a miracle any of the X GPU + Nvidia stuff ever works under Linux.

Intels XE stuff can't come fast enough. It will be nice when Nvidia is booted out of laptops for good. Laptops are always annoying enough with stupid semi custom hardware bits without having to deal with hair brain dual GPU setups. I get that dual GPUs have been around forever.

Fuck Nvidia.

I really do feel the same way about nVidia that you do. However, every time I've tried to switch from team green to team red, I've been sorely disappointed by overall performance and have switched back to nVidia.

Under windows I have never had a performance issue, or any issue for that matter, with an nVidia product.

But that's also the problem. I really want out of the Windows ecosystem but the only thing holding me back is World of Warcraft.

*sigh*
 
I really want out of the Windows ecosystem but the only thing holding me back is World of Warcraft.

My one gaming requirement for my laptop is that it can run League of Legends. I feel your pain, and you're probably more likely to be successful than I am.
 
Well, Kubuntu is up and running. Switching to the nVidia driver now and rebooting to see if it keeps working lol.
 
Hey folks, if anyone is interested, Pop!_OS works right out of the box with Optimus-enabled laptops: I have it running on an HP ZBook. Just download the NVIDIA iso version for the Dell mentioned above.

Ubuntu based and it doesn't use Optimus like Windows does. It does the same thing xrandr does IIRC. It just does it for you when you install the proprietary driver. This also is functionality built into Solus, Manjaro, and many other distros especially any Ubuntu based. It doesn't auto-switch between the Intel iGPU and the NV card.

I just saw something about Pop the other day. Which hardware manufacturer is backing it?

Pop!_OS is a fork of Ubuntu and developed by System76. While you can run it on any system it is primarily designed for System76 computers.

Well, Kubuntu is up and running. Switching to the nVidia driver now and rebooting to see if it keeps working lol.

Good luck! ;)

If it works would you mind checking the display manager config to see how they did it? I would like to know if I'm right and they're using the xrandr solution. It's been awhile since I used an Ubuntu based system so I honestly don't remember how they do it. Kubuntu should be using SDDM for it's DM. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus#SDDM
 
Ubuntu based and it doesn't use Optimus like Windows does. It does the same thing xrandr does IIRC. It just does it for you when you install the proprietary driver. This also is functionality built into Solus, Manjaro, and many other distros especially any Ubuntu based. It doesn't auto-switch between the Intel iGPU and the NV card.



Pop!_OS is a fork of Ubuntu and developed by System76. While you can run it on any system it is primarily designed for System76 computers.



Good luck! ;)

If it works would you mind checking the display manager config to see how they did it? I would like to know if I'm right and they're using the xrandr solution. It's been awhile since I used an Ubuntu based system so I honestly don't remember how they do it. Kubuntu should be using SDDM for it's DM. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus#SDDM

So I switched to the nVidia driver and rebooted and it actually kept working....and then I ran into the WiFi bug where wifi disconnects and won't reconnect no matter what you do. FML
 
I'm betting we'll see fewer MX250-class GPUs, but IGPs are going to remain limited.

Here's the thing: we're not seeing a solution from AMD that compares to Optimus. You can whine all you wish about Nvidia keeping their driver closed, but that's their prerogative- it gets the FOSS zealots in a twizzle, sure, and otherwise has very little operational effect.

The issue here is not closed vs. open. It's that Nvidia's solution to running two GPUs through one (set of) output(s) while dynamically switching between the two for balancing power draw and performance on mobile platforms is a bit beyond the current state of Linux development. No two ways about it, and it's not like Linux 'desktop' support for mobile devices is that well off to start with.

Its not a zealot issue at all. Sure no open source zealot loves closed source anything. The thing is there is zero reason to close drivers... and business reasons to open them. If I where a Nvidia investor I would be rather annoyed that Nvidia was loosing things like Stadia for no other reason then Google doesn't want closed source drivers for their 100s of millions of dollars of GPU servers. Intel also recently won a massive exoscale GPU/CPU machine with the US Gov. I have zero doubt that the fact Intels drivers will be 100% open played a role in them award a contract with hardware completely unseen.
 
Ubuntu based and it doesn't use Optimus like Windows does. It does the same thing xrandr does IIRC. It just does it for you when you install the proprietary driver. This also is functionality built into Solus, Manjaro, and many other distros especially any Ubuntu based. It doesn't auto-switch between the Intel iGPU and the NV card.



Pop!_OS is a fork of Ubuntu and developed by System76. While you can run it on any system it is primarily designed for System76 computers.



Good luck! ;)

If it works would you mind checking the display manager config to see how they did it? I would like to know if I'm right and they're using the xrandr solution. It's been awhile since I used an Ubuntu based system so I honestly don't remember how they do it. Kubuntu should be using SDDM for it's DM. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus#SDDM

So, looking at that wiki article it says the file being used is /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup

Here's the contents of that file:

#!/bin/sh
# Xsetup - run as root before the login dialog appears

if [ -e /sbin/prime-offload ]; then
echo running NVIDIA Prime setup /sbin/prime-offload
/sbin/prime-offload
fi

The prime-offload file is pretty big and I can't figure out how to load it here. Sorry.
 
WiFi magically started working again. I'm sure it involved a Timelord, too much beer, and a wedgie the size of Sausalito.
 
I don't think the way Kubuntu is setup allows me to switch between the nVidia and Intel video cards, it just turns the nVidia card on full time to handle everything.

I honestly haven't heard the fans in this laptop run this loud ever.
 
So, looking at that wiki article it says the file being used is /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup

Here's the contents of that file:

#!/bin/sh
# Xsetup - run as root before the login dialog appears

if [ -e /sbin/prime-offload ]; then
echo running NVIDIA Prime setup /sbin/prime-offload
/sbin/prime-offload
fi

The prime-offload file is pretty big and I can't figure out how to load it here. Sorry.

they're using this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
 
If you mean no one has shipped a Intel laptop with and AMD GPU your right. I guess we could blame Intel as well for not making GPUs or better APUs. Intel is planning to change that. So upside in the future we aren't going to be seeing a ton of Intel APU + Nvidia GPU dual mode laptops anymore.

Not to be that guy but Apple has been shipping Intel CPU / AMD GPU laptops for years. I wish they'd just jump to Team Red already and ditch Intel but rumors point to them going ARM instead. :rolleyes:
 
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I just saw something about Pop the other day. Which hardware manufacturer is backing it?

Hey, 'System76' is the laptop retailer who bundles the OS with its laptops. They test the Ubuntu-flavored Pop OS with NVIDIAs latest Linux drivers and bundle it with the OS if the release tests stable. One can run either Intel or NVIDIA graphics from the 'power' GUI menu. Switching graphics requires a reboot.
 
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Not to be that guy but Apple has been shipping Intel CPU / AMD GPU laptops for years. I wish they'd just jump to Team Red already and ditch Intel but rumors point to them going ARM instead. :rolleyes:

And are they using the Intel iGPU?

Are they dynamically switching between the two as needed by workload?

I'd love to see this working, Optimus or otherwise, but I've yet to see a real example that anyone other than Nvidia has put in the effort.
 
If you mean no one has shipped a Intel laptop with and AMD GPU your right. I guess we could blame Intel as well for not making GPUs or better APUs. Intel is planning to change that. So upside in the future we aren't going to be seeing a ton of Intel APU + Nvidia GPU dual mode laptops anymore.

Not to be that guy but Apple has been shipping Intel CPU / AMD GPU laptops for years. I wish they'd just jump to Team Red already and ditch Intel but rumors point to them going ARM instead. :rolleyes:

And Dell, HP, Lenovo who all have laptops with Intel CPU and AMD GPUs...

EDIT: If only there were recent news on this very topic...:D Now admittedly this is a somewhat integrated design.
 
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