NVIDIA and AMD Are Shipping Fewer GPUs as Retailers Sit on Inventory

I just upgraded my PC after 8 years, went from a 2600k intel i7 to a 2600 AMD... bought a new MB, a new set of RAM, and the CPU, even bought new storage... I did NOT buy a new video card. Hint Hint, NVidia, AMD...

Yep, waiting on the Zen2 CPU's to hit before I upgrade my old 4790k system, but I will not be buying a new GPU, I'll just stick with my 970 GTX which still runs everything good at 1080p and most stuff at 1440p fine. nVidia and AMD can get fucked on thse new overpriced GPU's...
 
I paid 700 dollars all in for a 980ti HYDROCOPPER just a few years ago. NVIDIA wants me to consider more than double the price justifiable?? AMD got greedy and instead of coming out with a winner and growing their base they followed NVIDIA's rediculous pricing model. They have killed their own market. Sad.
 
Yep, waiting on the Zen2 CPU's to hit before I upgrade my old 4790k system, but I will not be buying a new GPU, I'll just stick with my 970 GTX which still runs everything good at 1080p and most stuff at 1440p fine. nVidia and AMD can get fucked on thse new overpriced GPU's...

LOL. Check my sig. I am in EXACTLY the same boat. A 4790k with 970 GTX: it'll be swapped into a Zen 2...but the GPU will not be changed until I see something better than what is on offer at the moment.
 
Glad i got a 1080 ti fe for 500 bucks here. Last cards i ever bought new at or near launch was the 280 gtx and i bought sli. When i see the price i paid back then for 2, it seems like a great deal
 
I just went on NewEgg and noticed that.

I know there's a bunch of unwanted production costs that would come along with it but I greatly appreciate if AMD could figure out a way to do direct sales in the future.

Undercut a lot of these third-party shops trying to rip us off.

It’s not worth it for them to do direct sales. They want to ship in bulk, they don’t want to have to process thousands of POs when they can process one and they don’t want to have to deal with the inventory.
 
Would love to upgrade from my GTX 970 that I bought in 2014 when I built my X99 system, but AMD/RTG and nVidia are smokin' dat grade-A crack, so all they get from me is two middle fingers directed at them. I just keep a lookout for some decently-priced used 1080 Tis, while I wait for an appropriately-priced actual real GPU successor from either company. I hope these companies drown in their excess inventory. Most people I know building new systems are NOT including new graphics cards in those builds. Shit was supposed to get better after the cryptocurrency plague died down, but apparently not. Well have fun continuing to not sell any graphics cards, you asshats. I'll keep sitting on my cash. I used to complain about the ~$400 price of the Radeon 9700 Pro, now I wish flagship cards would return to that. I paid about $200 for my Radeon 9500 Pro at launch, and I thought that was a great value. ~$350 for factory overclocked GTX 970 wasn't too bad, but that shit ended up being way cheaper cuz of the money I got back from the partial refund and the class-action lawsuit against nVidia. So that card ended up being an excellent value as well.

I don't mind expensive graphics cards. They just need to actually be worth the prices they command. I haven't really seen that in a long time.
 
I guess ati and nvidia will sit on more cards till prices get little more reasonable not 1900 bocks in Canada for gtx 2080ti
 
Ya I'm in the "too much money" boat as well. I like buying new GPUs pretty often because I like more power, but this just went too far on the price. I have a 1080Ti and had the 2080Ti been the same price, I'd get one. However at $1200-1300 it is just too much. It isn't a worthwhile performance improvement over what I have for that money. Then there's the 2080 that, while the same general price, is also about the same performance with less RAM. Ya, no thanks, I'm not paying for a non-upgrade. So I stay with what I have.

Frankly I'm not really sure what they thought would happen. People tend to buy in the same general pricing bracket time after time. So if you bought a $200-250 GPU last time, chances are that's where you are looking next time. That means you bump up the prices and what people are getting for their money shrinks, which means your new shit doesn't compete so well with your old shit.
 
HAHA!

They could sell them if they dropped the prices. But no, someone convinced all the distributors that they could keep their crypto-inflated margins.

Could I buy a $1200 video card? Yes. Will I buy a $1200 video card? Hell no. Once you get over 4 figures for a single component you are talking car part money, as in I could get a twin-scroll turbo that would net me 100+ HP in an actual car for $1200. Fast cars on a screen are nice, but a fast car under my butt is way better.

If you can use the Tensor cores for work too, that's different. Value propositions become much different when you're making money off of it. For straight gaming, not gonna happen.

The 1080 Ti pretty much maxed out what I would pay at launch, 2 years ago. $700 seemed reasonable given things have slowed down and I'll likely get a couple years out of it. Barring RL distractions I probably would have picked one up at launch. But I don't see any reason to pay that or more for the same performance now, in March 2019.

Show me a new 1080Ti for $350-400 and I'll buy 3-4, right now. I'd buy a new 2080 for $500, pay a bit more for an RVII, or a new 2080 Ti for $700. At those prices I can find some value. And no, I don't care how big the dies are or how much HBM costs. I'm a consumer, it's my job to find the performance value for money, not worry what they had to do to get there.

The 'good enough' argument is strong these days. With the 1070 at 1080P 120Hz, I'm golden. 4K 60Hz requires me to tweak my settings, but totally doable in all but the most demanding games. Most people are still at 1080P 60Hz, which a 580/1060 will do great. I can wait until these companies pull their heads out of their asses, seems I'm not alone.
 
Anytime there is some kind of excuse to raise prices, the whole product chain tries to get in on it, and they are slow to let go.

I remember there was a flood at some HDD plant or something several years ago. It caused a couple month shortage of HDDs, but the high prices lingered for something like 2 years after.

As long as enough customers keep paying higher prices, the prices stay higher.


https://market.subwiki.org/wiki/Price_stickiness

Ya, it's a very real phenomenon.

I still remember when the CAD hit parity with the USD 10-12 years ago. Prices were still 20-30% higher in Canada for the same product.

People were FLOCKING to the US to buy everything from cars to groceries.

Sadly the price stickiness doesn't happen when prices go up, only when they go down.
 
The only party at fault in these high prices are the consumers. When gamers continue to shell out more and more money for the same product than in the past, it sends a message to Nvidia that gamers have accepted the price increases.
I do not fault Nvidia or AMD for this as they are a for profit business. Those that think prices are bullshit (like myself), you can buy used market GPU to ride it out until Nvidia/AMD feel enough pressure to lower prices.
 
I just upgraded my PC after 8 years, went from a 2600k intel i7 to a 2600 AMD... bought a new MB, a new set of RAM, and the CPU, even bought new storage... I did NOT buy a new video card. Hint Hint, NVidia, AMD...
I've got a 2600k system and am starting to buy parts for a system upgrade. I have a new case, PSU, and a Samsung ssd. I'm budgeting up to $400 for a GPU. I'd like to see some better pricing before I pull any trigger.
 
I've got a 2600k system and am starting to buy parts for a system upgrade. I have a new case, PSU, and a Samsung ssd. I'm budgeting up to $400 for a GPU. I'd like to see some better pricing before I pull any trigger.

Buy used.. pull the trigger or wait forever.

It's like have prices for gpu's ever gone down?

It will keep going up till people stop buying and they kill the pc gaming market!
 
Curious about your experience huge CPU upgrade and no GPU change, gaming smoother? Fps more stable? Load times?

I went from a 2500K overclock to a 6400K OC @ 4.6GHz all cores. Both systems used the same GTX 970 and yes, FPS went up noticeably with the CPU switch. 20% maybe? Still gaming on 1080p with a Dell 24" ultrasharp and have no reason to move to 1440 or 2160 anytime soon, certainly not with the card prices for 'real' 4K so fricking high. FU Nv & AMD.
 
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