Metro: Exodus

Auer said:
They took advantage of Steam. Free exposure. Simple as that.

East Block thieves, no surprise.
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Metro exodus didnt need exposure. The game is very popular regardless which platform it would be sold on. It is not like if you bought it on steam you won't be supported, or HAVE to install the Epic store to play it.

Metro Exodus doesn't need steam to sell. The game itself will sell! And plus if you didnt pre-order it on Steam, you get to save $10 on the Epic Store.

Now don't get me wrong I think it was SUPER late to pull it off steam, but they aren't fucking people on steam who pre-ordered it.
 
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Derangel said:
You're making the assumption that this was known and fully decided on months ago and using that assumption to base your entire opinion of the situation on. Its a pretty weak assumption. Deals like this really can happen practically overnight. If the deal was finalized months ago there is no way Epic wouldn't have announced it during the Game Awards when they were announcing other Epic Store games. That means the deal was made sometime after December 6th. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was made and finalized, at most, days before the announcement. There is really no reason for them to hold off the announcement and announcing further away from release avoids controversy like this.

Epic and Deep Silver are both assholes for the timing, there really is no denying that, but you can't base your anger off of a baseless assumption.
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Thank you for not reading the whole thread.
 
Flogger23m said:
Eh, no one gets game news on Steam. All games get info, trailers, a website and media blitz before a Steam page. Or the Steam page comes during the initial media blitz but has nothing more than a "TBA" and title. I new about this game well before it went up for sale on Steam.
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I get a lot of info on new games from Steam. The "Similar to games you've recently played" category on the page has helped me to find many games that I had never heard, given me notice of a new game from a developer I like, or reminded me of something I was interested in before. And for games that aren't release yet you can add them to the Wishlist so you can keep an eye on it.
 
Bankie said:
I get a lot of info on new games from Steam. The "Similar to games you've recently played" category on the page has helped me to find many games that I had never heard, given me notice of a new game from a developer I like, or reminded me of something I was interested in before. And for games that aren't release yet you can add them to the Wishlist so you can keep an eye on it.
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Most people that I know that are on Steam (Quite a few) are like this and I suspect that is a rather large majority.
 
This game is only 20 bucks (legit off of Epic's launcher) in many parts of the world. A few of my friends (who don't live in first world countries) said that they were pleasantly surprised that Epic's regional pricing is working for them, as it never did on Steam. Functional regional pricing turns pirates into legit customers.
 
Auer said:
Most people that I know that are on Steam (Quite a few) are like this and I suspect that is a rather large majority.
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The thing about anecdotal evidence is that it's useless and can't reliably be extrapolated.

Most people that I know that are on Steam do not use it as a resource for finding new games to play. My friends and I typically hear of new games to play through word of mouth, Twitch, Reddit, social media, and gaming/tech forums. But once again, this is anecdotal so its not very reliable.
 
exlink said:
The thing about anecdotal evidence is that it's useless and can't reliably be extrapolated.

Most people that I know that are on Steam do not use it as a resource for finding new games to play. My friends and I typically hear of new games to play through word of mouth, Twitch, Reddit, social media, and gaming/tech forums. But once again, this is anecdotal so its not very reliable.
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I suspect my "friends circle" is far more casual than yours gaming wise.
 
Auer said:
I suspect my friends circle is far more casual than yours gaming wise.
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Again, its anecdotal regardless of what you suspect. It's just as reliable as my personal experience. Both your experience and my experience are not reliable enough to extrapolate and base assumptions on.
 
LOL metro will be available for preload on steam, but not epic, 50GB download.
My results with preload: Decrypting - play 1 hour later. No preload - play 20 minutes later
 
Looks like Metro is, in fact, launching with RTX feature support. Glad to be wrong on that one. Gamer's Nexus has a video up on the game's use of RTX Global Illumination.

 
Are there any reviews up yet from a technical hardware perspective?

I know the game is going to be good......I just want to know how much it will strain my hardware.

Whoops......found it.
Guru3D has a really good performance review up right now.

Looks as though I'll be pretty good with my current hardware.
Actually looks like you can use RTX stuff with some penalty, of course. But it's in there.
 
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stashix said:
Welp lads, looks like I'm biting the bullet and getting a 2080 Ti, I want to enjoy this at the best image quality possible.
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totally jealous!

I do have to admit, it looks like there is FINALLY a game that shines with RTX. If you ask me this is the perfect game for it
 
Brackle said:
totally jealous!

I do have to admit, it looks like there is FINALLY a game that shines with RTX. If you ask me this is the perfect game for it
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It does seem like it. I'm really interested in seeing that lighting in other parts of the game and how it effects the gameplay experience. However, I think I'm going to wait to pick up the game until I get a new monitor. My old 24" 1080p TN panel monitors are really not good enough to accurately display modern games.
 
Derangel said:
It does seem like it. I'm really interested in seeing that lighting in other parts of the game and how it effects the gameplay experience. However, I think I'm going to wait to pick up the game until I get a new monitor. My old 24" 1080p TN panel monitors are really not good enough to accurately display modern games.
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How are you satisfied with the EVGA card btw? I'm looking at MSI Duke, Gigabyte Gaming, Gainward GS and EVGA XC Ultra. EVGA is sadly the most expensive one, but the warranty makes me tempted as usual.
 
stashix said:
How are you satisfied with the EVGA card btw? I'm looking at MSI Duke, Gigabyte Gaming, Gainward GS and EVGA XC Ultra. EVGA is sadly the most expensive one, but the warranty makes me tempted as usual.
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I like it so far. Its the XC Black as that was the only one EVGA offered for step-up purchases. If you're looking to OC I will say its nice that the whole XC line supports power limits of over 130% (133% on this card). Not sure what the limits are on everyone else's cards. I've only had it for about half a week now, but it is nice. A bit quieter than the 1080 ti it replaced too, which is nice.
 
Game looks good, but I'll wait to buy it on discount and play it with the next generation ray tracing cards (RTX 3080 Ti or w/e AMD's RT offering will be).
 
exlink said:
Game looks good, but I'll wait to buy it on discount and play it with the next generation ray tracing cards (RTX 3080 Ti or w/e AMD's RT offering will be).
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This. I want the game, but will wait until it comes down in price or goes to Steam. Also not paying for a 2080ti that may work and if it does it will have 60fps on 1080p with RTX.
At 4K with RTX, SLI cards would rock.(Not sure if it's supported)
 
Derangel said:
Looks like Metro is, in fact, launching with RTX feature support. Glad to be wrong on that one. Gamer's Nexus has a video up on the game's use of RTX Global Illumination.

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Looks really good, but it seems there is a MASSIVE performance penalty. That RTX footage did not look smooth at all.

Maybe by the time I pick this up there will be cheaper/faster RTX cards. :p
 
Derangel said:
Looks like Metro is, in fact, launching with RTX feature support. Glad to be wrong on that one. Gamer's Nexus has a video up on the game's use of RTX Global Illumination.

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You know after watching this video. I almost feel like RTX off looks better? I think i need to see more reviews/investigations into this. Maybe RTX is a little buggy still for Metro Exodus.
 
Brackle said:
You know after watching this video. I almost feel like RTX off looks better? I think i need to see more reviews/investigations into this. Maybe RTX is a little buggy still for Metro Exodus.
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I'd say its more down to personal preference. RTX on makes the lighting more realistic, but its definitely counter to how lighting in games is traditionally designed. A side-effect of the brighter sections is that it also seems to make flaws in the texture work a bit more apparent where traditional gaming lighting hides it a bit better.
 
Derangel said:
I'd say its more down to personal preference. RTX on makes the lighting more realistic, but its definitely counter to how lighting in games is traditionally designed. A side-effect of the brighter sections is that it also seems to make flaws in the texture work a bit more apparent where traditional gaming lighting hides it a bit better.
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Hmm you make a good point, that honestly could be it, I think i will wait to comment on RTX. I want to see more videos/screenshots etc. I want RTX to really take off, but i think its still a little buggy.

Either way this is game is going to great!
 
Derangel said:
Looks like Metro is, in fact, launching with RTX feature support. Glad to be wrong on that one. Gamer's Nexus has a video up on the game's use of RTX Global Illumination.

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Hot damn, that looks amazing. Glad we get it on launch. Also happy that I got my preorder in on Steam before they took it away.
Derangel said:
I'd say its more down to personal preference. RTX on makes the lighting more realistic, but its definitely counter to how lighting in games is traditionally designed. A side-effect of the brighter sections is that it also seems to make flaws in the texture work a bit more apparent where traditional gaming lighting hides it a bit better.
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I'm inclined to agree. Just like with the displays themselves I think people are too used to everything being overly bright and looking saturated in color all the time.
 
Derangel said:
I hope the game ends up being good. It looks like it has a ton of potential. I like how they're going for a bit of semi-open world but still trying to maintain the limited ammo and resources idea from previous games. I'm really looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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I hope Exodus gives you a real Survivor mode again...I enjoyed 2033 more then Last Light because of that...Last Light was a great game but it was more about run-and-gun tactics versus the scavenging and survival aspects of the first one...in Last Light Redux you could choose between Survival and Spartan mode but the gameplay was obviously designed around Spartan so playing Survivor didn't feel the same at all
 
They will be bringing out DLC and who knows what else. Many of the features came out after the original games. May be months or more. Main thing about the game series was always that it rewards exploration. With large open world that may change the dynamics some.
 
WIth ray tracing making lighting in games more realistic and natural, it sounds like artists are going to have to think more 'cinematically' with their level designs and set designs.
 
the scene with the forest, that seemed too light, then the scene inside the train, that seemed too dark. I think the technology has a ways to go
 
magoo said:
Are there any reviews up yet from a technical hardware perspective?

I know the game is going to be good......I just want to know how much it will strain my hardware.

Whoops......found it.
Guru3D has a really good performance review up right now.

Looks as though I'll be pretty good with my current hardware.
Actually looks like you can use RTX stuff with some penalty, of course. But it's in there.
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Both Guru3d and TPU have reviews up and the performance is VERY different when comparing team green and team red:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Metro_Exodus/6.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/metro_exodus_pc_graphics_performance_benchmarks,7.html

In TPU, the RX 590 ties GTX 1060 6 GB.
In Guru3d, it is at GTX 1070 levels of performance. The GTX 1070 is about 35% faster than the GTX 1060 in both benchmarks.

This is most likely due to TPU keeping Hairworks on. Gotta love that "performance enhancing" game works.

Guru3d goes a bit deeper and checks frametimes and frame percentiles:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/metro_exodus_pc_graphics_performance_benchmarks,5.html

The RX590 looks smoother than the GTX 1060 *edit frame percentile chart was confusing on next page. The RTX 2060 looks good.
 
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Did the first review say it took him 20 hours to finish the game?
 
most reviews I've read are very positive...even the lower end of the spectrum reviews are still grading it around 78%...graphics look amazing and it seems more optimized then 2033...most reviews claim the length is Metro 2033 + Last Light combined...it took me around 20 hours for each as I love to explore everything...so Exodus should take me around 40 hours...other things which sound really impressive- day/night cycle (with tougher enemies coming out at night), changing weather (sandstorms, poison clouds etc), changing seasons (winter snow, summer desert etc)...sounds like fans of the previous games will love Exodus

anyone know what time it unlocks on the Epic store?
 
Derangel said:
Looks like Metro is, in fact, launching with RTX feature support. Glad to be wrong on that one. Gamer's Nexus has a video up on the game's use of RTX Global Illumination.

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This is seriously making me want a 2080ti...must...resist...fuck nvidia....fight the power...hack...the...planet....also..fuck...epic.

Nightfire said:
Both Guru3d and TPU have reviews up and the performance is VERY different when comparing team green and team red:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Metro_Exodus/6.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/metro_exodus_pc_graphics_performance_benchmarks,7.html

In TPU, the RX 590 ties GTX 1060 6 GB.
In Guru3d, it is at GTX 1070 levels of performance. The GTX 1070 is about 35% faster than the GTX 1060 in both benchmarks.

This is most likely due to TPU keeping Hairworks on. Gotta love that "performance enhancing" game works.

Guru3d goes a bit deeper and checks frametimes and frame percentiles:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/metro_exodus_pc_graphics_performance_benchmarks,5.html

The RX590 looks smoother than the GTX 1060 and 5he frame times are even better than the RTX 2060.
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uuugh amd, get your shit together ffs. Its barely faster that my GTX. fucking pathetic.
 
Derangel said:
However, I think I'm going to wait to pick up the game until I get a new monitor. My old 24" 1080p TN panel monitors are really not good enough to accurately display modern games.
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yeah if you have a 2080ti you really need a 4K or at the very least a 1440p monitor to take full advantage of it...otherwise all you need is a GTX 1070 or 1080 for max 1080p quality
 
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