Nvidia 417.71 drivers up.

Those blur buster images you guys take show why I use ULMB mode over VRR. There's always "bleed" of the previous frame which drives me nuts in FPS games. It's also the same problem that causes unreadable text when you're scrolling, though higher refresh can alleviate some of the blur, but it still exists even up to 480hz refresh.

https://www.testufo.com/photo#photo=toronto-map.png&pps=960&pursuit=0&height=0

This test really shows the difference between a high refresh and ULMB mode with regards to fast motion blurring.
 
Slade said:
Those blur buster images you guys take show why I use ULMB mode over VRR. There's always "bleed" of the previous frame which drives me nuts in FPS games. It's also the same problem that causes unreadable text when you're scrolling, though higher refresh can alleviate some of the blur, but it still exists even up to 480hz refresh.

https://www.testufo.com/photo#photo=toronto-map.png&pps=960&pursuit=0&height=0

This test really shows the difference between a high refresh and ULMB mode with regards to fast motion blurring.
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Ulmb is great for some and not others. I can't stand how dark the image gets and being limited to 120hz sucks when I have a 240hz panel

Defeats the purpose of a 240hz panel in my scenario.
 
Slade said:
Those blur buster images you guys take show why I use ULMB mode over VRR. There's always "bleed" of the previous frame which drives me nuts in FPS games. It's also the same problem that causes unreadable text when you're scrolling, though higher refresh can alleviate some of the blur, but it still exists even up to 480hz refresh.

https://www.testufo.com/photo#photo=toronto-map.png&pps=960&pursuit=0&height=0

This test really shows the difference between a high refresh and ULMB mode with regards to fast motion blurring.
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Hear hear! I love BenQ Blur Reduction at 144Hz! More so than 240Hz without blur reduction. I have the first version 240Hz BenQ (before the blur reduction was renamed to "DyAc") which only let you enable it through service menu. It can be used with 240Hz too but at least this panel can't handle it (there is actually more blur as a result) but at 144Hz the testufo shows a perfectly clear UFO without any blurry pixels whatsoever in case you move your head along the ufo, if you keep it still you will pick up very slight blur meanwhile compared to 240Hz without blur reduction there's a very noticeable amount blur still whether you move your head with the ufo or not.

At least on my BenQ brightness isn't an issue, yes you need to use slightly more brightness with ULMB/Blur reduction but there's more than enough as the panel is very bright to begin with, I have mine set to 36 brightness with blur reduction on and I think I'd be around 25 or thereabouts with it turned off. And contrast at 36 brightness with 144Hz+blur reduction the colors looks BETTER than 240Hz and without blur reduction. The latter has more "greyish" colors and slight decrease in sharpness as well, it's something which stood immediatly out when browsing the net so in my case 144Hz+strobing definitely won. Now it allows only 144Hz or 240Hz and nothing in between but could create custom settings and appearently 160~180Hz or thereabouts should be possible to use reasonably "artifact-free" but I really haven't seen the need when 144Hz+strobing already brings such a butter smooth motion and the image quality looks excellent still. The only advantage 240Hz mode has is less input lag but I aint going to trade off image quality and motion smoothness/clarity for that.

I'm waiting for a 144Hz strobing capable IPS panel myself (120Hz max today), wouldn't wanna go for less motion smoothness anymore, always been a sucker for that (CRT user until the end of 2009).
 
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Mylex said:
I don't remember what its default is but Im happy with the monitor and this maybe used in the future with RTX games since there's a good chance it'll struggle to maintain 60fps @ 2k.
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I just run mine at 60hz.. don't know if I would notice a different if it were at 75hz. So far adaptive is set up and working fine across all 3 monitors....now If I could only get the NVCP to launch at startup I'll be in good shape.
 
For brightness and ULMB it depends on the monitor. the Asus ones show very decent brightness, so much so that even with ULMB under calibration, I had to put down the settings a bit to be correct at home. I'd also point out that not a lot of video games can do a consistent 120hz, all eye candy on and 1440p, let alone 144, or 240 right now so when doing VRR, you aren't getting any benefit in gaming from high hz.

I think your lighting environment plays a big role in your color accuracy and perception of whether the color are washed out. A monitor calibrator like a spyder elite usually shows you have to crank the settings when in a bright room to compete with fluorescent lighting.

In our office we did some readings and were shocked the calibrator sw was warning us that the brightness in the office was too high. An environmental assessment showed we had double the recommended brightness in the office for health and wellness and subsequently pulled half the lights to make it easier on our eyes. People mentioning headaches due to lighting conditions have all but disappeared now and we have found when calibrating the monitors in our office (200!) that the sw is recommending much much lower settings in brightness.
 
Mylex said:
Thanks, just tested mine and no skipped blocks @75hz with FreeSync/Gsync on.
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Mylex, I've done more testing with my monitor, and found that it also is sometimes doing 75 hz without frame-skipping.

I don't yet know the reason why, but yesterday my Omen 32 was frame-skipping when I took these photos: https://hardforum.com/threads/hp-om...sync-va-panel.1909919/page-18#post-1044040940

But today the monitor hasn't been frame-skipping, as can be seen in the pictures I took today: https://hardforum.com/threads/hp-om...sync-va-panel.1909919/page-18#post-1044040943

Those pictures were taken this morning. And attached here are pictures I've taken just now showing that my Omen 32 is still not frame-skipping.

What's making the difference, I don't know, but I want to. If the monitor can be changed between frame-skipping and non frame-skipping, then there could be a way for everyone with an Omen 32 to make theirs not frame-skip.

You could do the UFO test periodically to see if your monitor is constantly perfectly syncing at 75 hz.


My full monitor and Nvidia control panel settings are...

Omen 32 on-screen setup:

- FreeSync mode
- Fastest response time

Nvidia control panel:

- 2560x1440 @ 75 hz
- Vertical sync mode (in Manage 3D settings - global settings) set to: Fast (this seems to keep resetting itself to use the 3D application's setting)
- Monitor Technology (in Manage 3D settings - global settings) set to: G-sync compatible
- G-sync capable enabled for both windowed and fullscreen modes


Evil Scooter said:
I just run mine at 60hz.. don't know if I would notice a different if it were at 75hz. So far adaptive is set up and working fine across all 3 monitors....now If I could only get the NVCP to launch at startup I'll be in good shape.
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I don't know about 60 hz with adaptive-sync compared to 75 hz with adaptive-sync because I didn't try that. But, the difference between 60 hz with v-sync on or off and 75 hz with adaptive-sync enabled is actually huge. So, I would try it at 75 hz with the settings I mention in this post.
 

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Slade said:
For brightness and ULMB it depends on the monitor. the Asus ones show very decent brightness, so much so that even with ULMB under calibration, I had to put down the settings a bit to be correct at home. I'd also point out that not a lot of video games can do a consistent 120hz, all eye candy on and 1440p, let alone 144, or 240 right now so when doing VRR, you aren't getting any benefit in gaming from high hz.
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Edit* Please dont read into my reply as directed or rude. That is not my intention and forgive me if seems so.

240hz is not about hitting 240 fps.

There is much more too it. I find that so few people on this very forum actually own or ever have owned a 240hz panel or have ever used one yet they consistently tell us the same old talking points. What they are used for and how limited I and other 240 owners are with every little excuse under the sun to not justify buying one.

After owning 60 100 144 165 and 240 panels ...100hz is better than 60... 120hz is not that great over 100..144 is alot better than 120. 165hz even better...240 lowest input lag and smoothest damn gameplay ever and is literally champion level speed.

It's good knowing that everything a 1080ti can throw at a 240hz panel is covered by the massive 240hz refresh rate all the time.

I dominate in fps far better on my gsync 240 than I do on my freesync 144. It's pure performance and worth it.

Of course 240 is niche and you are right about most people. You need an incredible rig to get more out of a 240hz panel. GPU's most people cant afford etc...

But I can see vrr working in games as high as 220fps highs and lows in the 90s etc.. but gsync keeps it liquid smooth the whole time and the LCD has the juice to keep up.
 
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I'm glad to hear its performing better for some reason for you. I'm just waiting for a decently priced 4k 144hz monitor that does HDR, I know hell will freeze over before they hit $500 for a 27-32 range. I normally don't test my monitors even though I've returned a ton because they didn't meet what I was looking for or had some sort of defect. I'll definitely run this on them going forward.
 
Maddness said:
I have been thinking of getting that monitor. Do you get any trailing when running around 100hz or more. How's the colors with a VA panel.
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There's a little trailing in dark scenes when running at 144hz. Responsiveness and colors are top-notch though (better than my MG279Q) IMO but the Asus has better text and no trailing but worse colors.
 
Mylex said:
I'm glad to hear its performing better for some reason for you. I'm just waiting for a decently priced 4k 144hz monitor that does HDR, I know hell will freeze over before they hit $500 for a 27-32 range. I normally don't test my monitors even though I've returned a ton because they didn't meet what I was looking for or had some sort of defect. I'll definitely run this on them going forward.
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I thought the same for 4k60 Gsync, but I ended up finding a factory refurbished model at Best Buy for a suspiciously low price.

I spent weeks hunting for a good deal, and I feel I will do the same for 4k144hz. Luckily, Gsync may not be needed thanks to Freesync!
 
Everything seems to be working great with my Pixio PX329 except one thing...
If G-Sync is enabled when Windows starts, Windows will lock up on the login screen. Something seems to fail when G-Sync "kicks in" and the monitor re-initializes. If I turn off Freesync on the monitor or disable G-Sync in the NVCP, it boots fine. Anyone else encounter something like that or hear of an issue like that?

At this point, hard to tell if it's an issue with the driver or with the monitor. Super weird since I haven't seen any other issues.
 
Parja said:
Everything seems to be working great with my Pixio PX329 except one thing...
If G-Sync is enabled when Windows starts, Windows will lock up on the login screen. Something seems to fail when G-Sync "kicks in" and the monitor re-initializes. If I turn off Freesync on the monitor or disable G-Sync in the NVCP, it boots fine. Anyone else encounter something like that or hear of an issue like that?

At this point, hard to tell if it's an issue with the driver or with the monitor. Super weird since I haven't seen any other issues.
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Did you find any success fixing this issue or did you find out any more info about it?
 
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