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Haven't used AMD since X2 series of chips back in like 2004/5/6ish??

Just purchased a Ryzen 7 2700x. seemed like a good deal at 309 + Division 2 for free which I wanted anyway.

Now to pick a board,ram and a waterblock for it.

It was toss up with the i7 9700k but for the price of AMD over Intel right now I couldn't continue with Intel and for my gaming purposes it seems like the Ryzen does just as well.

I haven't replaced, at the same time, mobo,ram,cpu in 10 years!!!

I feel bad for my current setup though. it is still rocking stuff but...When the games I really want to play are no longer supported it is time to move on :(
 
I'm happy with both of my Ryzen builds (see Sig) and am ready for a drop-in Zen 2 upgrade. You'll be well served with the 2700X and you have an upgrade path to Zen 2 when it's released. Grats.
 
You sound like me. I had an X2 before moving to Core 2 back in 06 I think? Then I had an I7 from 2010 - 2018 and Finally came back to AMD in December. Good to have competition again.
 
Most of the Intel boxes I have been running are now replaced with AMD stuff. It fit budget and performance needs for this time.
 
I love the fact I can keep my x399 board and my b450 for zen 2 maybe even zen 3.

Intel would have made us change it every single release.
 
I would get an Asus Crosshair VII Hero board and be done with it. Best AM4 board I used (out of maybe 5 of them).
 
I'm in the same boat.. first AMD system since X2. Got at 2700x also myself with some Samsung B-Die memory and not looking back. Going to jump to the Zen2 chips later this year if they seem worthwhile.
 
kirbyrj said:
I would get an Asus Crosshair VII Hero board and be done with it. Best AM4 board I used (out of maybe 5 of them).
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hell no... no way I'm spending 270+ bucks a board right now. for that much I can get a board and 16gb ram.

sadly no that I have it, I'm having reservations that i made the wrong choice and should have just went with the i7 9700k but that could just be me and the unknown.
 
Bigbacon said:
hell no... no way I'm spending 270+ bucks a board right now. for that much I can get a board and 16gb ram.

sadly no that I have it, I'm having reservations that i made the wrong choice and should have just went with the i7 9700k but that could just be me and the unknown.
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What's the source of these reservations? I considered a 97/9900K, but ended up with a 1950x for $450...
 
i really dont know other than reviews saying it is faster in games but for me at the moment where I play it shouldn't matter and I keep forgetting that AMD is sticking with AM4 so the upgrade path is probably better.
 
Bigbacon said:
hell no... no way I'm spending 270+ bucks a board right now. for that much I can get a board and 16gb ram.

sadly no that I have it, I'm having reservations that i made the wrong choice and should have just went with the i7 9700k but that could just be me and the unknown.
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Eh...I got one for ~$200 used on ebay. Either way, it is definitely the best board I used for Ryzen.
 
kirbyrj said:
Eh...I got one for ~$200 used on ebay. Either way, it is definitely the best board I used for Ryzen.
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normally i wouldn't care. its not that I can't spend the money. I could have spent like 2k on stuff if I wanted...I just don't want too anymore. I was really trying to keep my board budget at 150 max. For once in life I am not just going for close to the best stuff at the time of purchase. I guess i've been semi spoiled on my current PC being used for a decade and not being a problem performance wise.
 
Bigbacon said:
normally i wouldn't care. its not that I can't spend the money. I could have spent like 2k on stuff if I wanted...I just don't want too anymore. I was really trying to keep my board budget at 150 max. For once in life I am not just going for close to the best stuff at the time of purchase. I guess i've been semi spoiled on my current PC being used for a decade and not being a problem performance wise.
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I get it. I just know from my experience I had the least amount of hassle with that board. I swapped the CH7 for an ASRock X470 Gaming K4, but it wouldn't run cheaper memory the same way the CH7 did as I had to back down the speed slightly (still 95% of the same experience for 50% of the price). If I do a Ryzen 2 build, the CH8 will definitely be on my short list of boards to try.

I haven't tried MSI or Gigabyte Ryzen boards yet, but ASRock boards were definitely slightly more finicky than the Asus ones. I have a B350-F Strix board that has been rock solid for almost 2 years. Meanwhile the ASRock X370 and X470 boards kept fighting me with memory compatibility.
 
kirbyrj said:
I get it. I just know from my experience I had the least amount of hassle with that board. I swapped the CH7 for an ASRock X470 Gaming K4, but it wouldn't run cheaper memory the same way the CH7 did as I had to back down the speed slightly (still 95% of the same experience for 50% of the price). If I do a Ryzen 2 build, the CH8 will definitely be on my short list of boards to try.

I haven't tried MSI or Gigabyte Ryzen boards yet, but ASRock boards were definitely slightly more finicky than the Asus ones. I have a B350-F Strix board that has been rock solid for almost 2 years. Meanwhile the ASRock X370 and X470 boards kept fighting me with memory compatibility.
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yea I'm looking at MSI right now because they seem to have better ram compatibility, least by their QVL lists. A lot more choices. Keep narrowing it down only to go back and wonder more as I read more and get more opinions. price wise MSI seems to have options where I want in eithe 370 or 470 chipsets but I think I'm going to end up having to spend 20 or 30 dollars more than I want. If this wasn't my first 'new' build in a dcade I would look at used stuff but going with new.

Going to be fun. At first I really didn't want to do all this, it was like a nessessary evil but now I'm actually excited to rip apart this decade old system and re-do everything. I mean my water loop has been running for 10 years untouched pretty much. I replaced a single piece of tubing when i went from SLI 480s to SLI980s. Other than that, its been running as originally built for 10 years!

Already have new tubing and new orings ready to go. Still going with cheapo metal barbs, the surgical tubing, and those plastic clampy things. No leaks in 10 years so....why not although...I was stupidly almost tempted to water cool the ram but that quickly faded as useless except for aesthetics but i don't care about that.

My 15 year old Chieftec full tower will live on though!
 
Bigbacon said:
yea I'm looking at MSI right now because they seem to have better ram compatibility, least by their QVL lists. A lot more choices. Keep narrowing it down only to go back and wonder more as I read more and get more opinions. price wise MSI seems to have options where I want in eithe 370 or 470 chipsets but I think I'm going to end up having to spend 20 or 30 dollars more than I want. If this wasn't my first 'new' build in a dcade I would look at used stuff but going with new.

Going to be fun. At first I really didn't want to do all this, it was like a nessessary evil but now I'm actually excited to rip apart this decade old system and re-do everything. I mean my water loop has been running for 10 years untouched pretty much. I replaced a single piece of tubing when i went from SLI 480s to SLI980s. Other than that, its been running as originally built for 10 years!

Already have new tubing and new orings ready to go. Still going with cheapo metal barbs, the surgical tubing, and those plastic clampy things. No leaks in 10 years so....why not although...I was stupidly almost tempted to water cool the ram but that quickly faded as useless except for aesthetics but i don't care about that.

My 15 year old Chieftec full tower will live on though!
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I wouldn't hesitate to go used, even doing my own first build in a decade I looked for used anywhere I could.

I feel you on the practicality side, impressive that your WC setup has been so strong!
 
Bigbacon said:
yea I'm looking at MSI right now because they seem to have better ram compatibility, least by their QVL lists. A lot more choices. Keep narrowing it down only to go back and wonder more as I read more and get more opinions. price wise MSI seems to have options where I want in eithe 370 or 470 chipsets but I think I'm going to end up having to spend 20 or 30 dollars more than I want. If this wasn't my first 'new' build in a dcade I would look at used stuff but going with new.

Going to be fun. At first I really didn't want to do all this, it was like a nessessary evil but now I'm actually excited to rip apart this decade old system and re-do everything. I mean my water loop has been running for 10 years untouched pretty much. I replaced a single piece of tubing when i went from SLI 480s to SLI980s. Other than that, its been running as originally built for 10 years!

Already have new tubing and new orings ready to go. Still going with cheapo metal barbs, the surgical tubing, and those plastic clampy things. No leaks in 10 years so....why not although...I was stupidly almost tempted to water cool the ram but that quickly faded as useless except for aesthetics but i don't care about that.

My 15 year old Chieftec full tower will live on though!
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I used to drool over chieftec cases...by the time I could afford a PC they were mostly gone except ebay.
 
Nobu said:
I used to drool over chieftec cases...by the time I could afford a PC they were mostly gone except ebay.
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I amazed I am still using it. Bought it 6/12/2002. Its the height I like and most cases today are either smaller, ugly has hell, full of lights, or super expensive.
 
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I dont know .. but I traded off my 7700k and got a 2700x setup for myself and ended up getting the Ryzen 2200g for both my wife and daughter and they have all been fantastic.. tried going all AMD with video card too, but Nvidia just had the better solution for my needs (580 to a 1080) at less power
 
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Bigbacon said:
I amazed I am still using it. Bought it 6/12/2002. Its the height I like and most cases today are either smaller, ugly has hell, full of lights, or super expensive.
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I can actually get one off amazon for $53 (+$72 shipping), from the amazon uk global store. Maybe not the best gaming case, but it'd make a helluva NAS case with a few hotswap cages in the front. They only have black, though.
Edit: hrm, looks like that one only has one 5¼ bay (according to the specs on the listing, at least), thought for sure they had more...
 
Nobu said:
I can actually get one off amazon for $53 (+$72 shipping), from the amazon uk global store. Maybe not the best gaming case, but it'd make a helluva NAS case with a few hotswap cages in the front. They only have black, though.
Edit: hrm, looks like that one only has one 5¼ bay (according to the specs on the listing, at least), thought for sure they had more...
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mine has 6 5-1/4 bays
 
I was in a similar situation. I was running a 1100t at 4.2ghz and upgraded to a 2700x. This is the first CPU that I haven't overclocked out of the box. I run one game, that is fairly demanding, with no issues. I also dual boot to Linux and run several virtual machines. This thing crushes virtual machines. I can't believe how many I can run, with zero bleed over and they are all fast and smooth. The biggest selling point, for me, is the AM4 platform being utilized for the next gen as well. I used an Asrock motherboard and it is just ok. I'll go back to Asus or Gigabyte in the future. Fast ram pays off big. I'll probably overclock but only for fun. It really isn't necessary yet. Intel drives me crazy with all the sockets and their pricing. I built this machine for $1100 and the only used part was the graphics card. I liked it so much I built a Ryzen 2600 for my office. It might be more impressive just because it was so cheap to build. It loves VM's as well. I have a video somewhere of it running 4 vm's, with each running a 7zip bench, and the host machine cruising along nicely. All VM's remained steady, fast and responsive. Fun cpu's.
 
I think we need to start an AMD old-timers upgrade club.

I'm running an Athlon X2 6000 and I am thinking about going the Ryzen route as well. I did like the looks of the Hero series and while I don't game quite enough to justify it I am also trying to future-proof my new system a little. I don't know if that is possible anymore though.
 
I bought Radeon VII, and its been hell's fun! Feels like old overclocking days lol. im only 33
 
netbrad said:
I think we need to start an AMD old-timers upgrade club.

I'm running an Athlon X2 6000 and I am thinking about going the Ryzen route as well. I did like the looks of the Hero series and while I don't game quite enough to justify it I am also trying to future-proof my new system a little. I don't know if that is possible anymore though.
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Newegg has a sale on the Asrock Taichi this week. $165 after rebate if you want to take a look. The board works great for me.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...-_-AMDMotherboards-_-13157835-S0D&ignorebbr=1
 
Damn that is a good price on the Taichi. I have 2 (one running and one spare maybe for another rig) and I bought in at $190ish and thought that was a good price. Waiting for the 3xxx to come out. If they actually release a 16 core, alot of people will have zero need / incentive to upgrade to Threadripper :-D
 
The price on the Taichi might make me switch from the X470 Master I have. It seems fine for stock but I don't think it is going to clock very well.
 
I have an Asrock X370 Killer SLI/ac, and will consider the next CH model based on what I'm reading here when I make the leap to Zen 2 later this year.

The BIOS just won't flash on it to update to the latest, and it's aggravating that their support can't figure out what's going on either, so I gave up trying.

All AMD again though and happy about that! So glad they were in the ring & competitive when my i7-920 just wasn't cutting it gaming wise.
 
oneforspeed said:
I was in a similar situation. I was running a 1100t at 4.2ghz and upgraded to a 2700x. This is the first CPU that I haven't overclocked out of the box. I run one game, that is fairly demanding, with no issues. I also dual boot to Linux and run several virtual machines. This thing crushes virtual machines. I can't believe how many I can run, with zero bleed over and they are all fast and smooth. The biggest selling point, for me, is the AM4 platform being utilized for the next gen as well. I used an Asrock motherboard and it is just ok. I'll go back to Asus or Gigabyte in the future. Fast ram pays off big. I'll probably overclock but only for fun. It really isn't necessary yet. Intel drives me crazy with all the sockets and their pricing. I built this machine for $1100 and the only used part was the graphics card. I liked it so much I built a Ryzen 2600 for my office. It might be more impressive just because it was so cheap to build. It loves VM's as well. I have a video somewhere of it running 4 vm's, with each running a 7zip bench, and the host machine cruising along nicely. All VM's remained steady, fast and responsive. Fun cpu's.
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I agree. Virtual machines run so damn smooth on AMD.
 
It definitely is nice to feed the AMD wild side again after a decade of silence. I remember the Athlon 64 days. The 1950x was a perfect transition from i7
 
compgeek89 said:
It definitely is nice to feed the AMD wild side again after a decade of silence. I remember the Athlon 64 days. The 1950x was a perfect transition from i7
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Yeah, It's nice switch to Red team, I love Choices and Love choice different products, Most my time is reading up on WCing and read everything and learn everything i can about, I want do it right way, not waste bunch of money and look like dumbass lol
 
I love choices and remember rocking amd back when they were the best. I think they are getting there again or close to. competition is good for growth.
 
I plan to upgrade to Zen 2 when it launches this summer. Will be my first AMD system since my Athlon XP 1700+.
 
Bigbacon said:
i really dont know other than reviews saying it is faster in games but for me at the moment where I play it shouldn't matter and I keep forgetting that AMD is sticking with AM4 so the upgrade path is probably better.
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Yes and no ;) I think a revision is due when DDR5 gets here but that is 2020/2021?
Depending on how that IO die works on Zen 2 based processors we might see another time support for dual memory controllers ?
Then again usually the first batch of new memory tends to be not as fast as the fastest older variation of DDR.
 
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