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SAPPHIRE Radeon™ VII 16G HBM2
Available at $699 February 7th - come with the Raise the Game Fully Loaded bundle. The bundle consists of free copies of the recently released Resident Evil 2 and two unreleased AAA titles, Devil May Cry 5 and Tom Clancy's The Division 2.



GPU 3840 Stream Processors
60 CU
7 nm

1400 MHz Engine Clock
1750 MHz Boost Engine Clock

Interface PCI-Express X16

Memory 4096 bit Memory Bus
HBM2 Memory Type
1000 MHz, Effective 2000
16 GB Size

BIOS Support UEFI BIOS
Displays Maximum 4 Outputs
Output
1 x HDMI 2.0b
3 x DisplayPort 1.4

Resolution 5120*2880 Pixel DisplayPort Resolution
4096*2160 HDMI Resolution

API DirectX® 12
Feature FreeSync2 Technology
DirectX™ 12 Optimized

Radeon VR ready Premium
Radeon Relive
Radeon Wattman

Cooling Triple fans
Form Factor 2 Part Slot Occupied
268(L) x 120(W) x 42(H) Dimension /mm
Power Consumption 300W

OS Windows 10　Windows 7　
Support 64-bit only
System Requirement 650 Watt Power Supply (Suggestion)
1 Available PCI-Express X16 Slot
8192 MB Minimum of system memory
2 x 8-pin AUX Power Connector


http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=653DD044-C784-46AC-AFF4-84881431E725&lang=eng
 
mvmiller12 said:
I would be interested in the card if it came cheaper without the games, because I have ZERO interest in those games at all...
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Same-ish here. I’ve got those games via the Vega 64 bundle.

Still waiting on my fucking RE2 key though.
 
I don't really see the audience for this card. Not that I have a problem with AMD, but for just $50 more you can have a 2080 with Ray Tracing possibility, and DLSS + physix, and hairworx, and whatever else proprietary nonsense nvidia tries to strangle with....anyway - roughly the same speed too right?

So this card is really just for Nvidia haters? Since the freesync aspect is now gone too...
 
Archaea said:
I don't really see the audience for this card. Not that I have a problem with AMD, but for just $50 more you can have a 2080 with Ray Tracing possibility, and DLSS + physix, and hairworx, and whatever else proprietary nonsense nvidia tries to strangle with....anyway - roughly the same speed too right?

So this card is really just for Nvidia haters? Since the freesync aspect is now gone too...
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Yeah, what kind of idiot would want twice the VRAM for 4k gaming when you can have all the great features of a RTX card!
 
Archaea said:
I don't really see the audience for this card. Not that I have a problem with AMD, but for just $50 more you can have a 2080 with Ray Tracing possibility, and DLSS + physix, and hairworx, and whatever else proprietary nonsense nvidia tries to strangle with....anyway - roughly the same speed too right?

So this card is really just for Nvidia haters? Since the freesync aspect is now gone too...
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My monitor isn't on the supported list, and likely never will be (korean 42" 4k). I've manually enabled it, but the implementation doesn't work well, not compared to the fury's I had before. Theres still noticable judder and tesring while inside the vrr window.

Plus, I prefer AMDs drivers and interface. The Nvidia drivers required to enable adaptive sync have a bug where I can't get a video signal after the display is shut down by windows.
 
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Archaea said:
I don't really see the audience for this card. Not that I have a problem with AMD, but for just $50 more you can have a 2080 with Ray Tracing possibility, and DLSS + physix, and hairworx, and whatever else proprietary nonsense nvidia tries to strangle with....anyway - roughly the same speed too right?

So this card is really just for Nvidia haters? Since the freesync aspect is now gone too...
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That's fair enough. What sways me to AMD is their openness to enthusiast overclocking. Tinkering has always been amongst my favorite parts of the PC building experience. Nvidia locks that down.

With AMD you can unlock power targets, bios tweak etc...

For instance, a Vega 56 with a 242% power target has shown it can reach 2070 levels of performance.

I believe a Vega 64 with the same OC and power target would be neck and neck with 2070 OCed performance.

If Vega VII follows true, it will be an awesome overclocker for those who enjoy extracting the most performance from their hardware. Perhaps matching or exceeding 2080 performance may not be out of the question with a strong OC.
 
jbjmed82 said:
Is there any game out that would use that much vram?
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Perhaps a better question is how many games will use VRAM 8GB (as previous Vega 64) or over at common resolutions like 1440p or 2160p - Battlefield 5 will/can, Division 2, BO4 are a few that can/will use the more ram, even more than 11GB (on Ti) in right system with settings turned up - so yes, there are.

Google VRAM usage of some of the more modern games, there are lots of opinions and results, however, give you an idea of a few games that benefit some from having the extra VRAM.
 
I'm loving the plain white design. Would look better if the fan blades were also white.
 
Archaea said:
I don't really see the audience for this card. Not that I have a problem with AMD, but for just $50 more you can have a 2080 with Ray Tracing possibility, and DLSS + physix, and hairworx, and whatever else proprietary nonsense nvidia tries to strangle with....anyway - roughly the same speed too right?

So this card is really just for Nvidia haters? Since the freesync aspect is now gone too...
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The freesync issue is far from dead. they are still going to push g-sync as much as they can as the premium product. But I get your point. If all else is equal Nvidia does have more feature sets but at the cost of support in other areas (non gaming mostly). Then again most of that is fluff. Hairworks is nice but the actual difference is pretty minor. And ray tracing is a joke at this point. The only fully ray traced game right know is Doom 2. A lot of all this is going to depend on how the VII performs. If it does better at 4k then there is a selling point that means a lot more then Nvidia stuff (for most people, JMO). If it doesn't and the very expensive 16gb of HBM2 doesn't provide any really world benefits past productivity users then it will be a fanboy card only.
 
Archaea said:
I don't really see the audience for this card. Not that I have a problem with AMD, but for just $50 more you can have a 2080 with Ray Tracing possibility, and DLSS + physix, and hairworx, and whatever else proprietary nonsense nvidia tries to strangle with....anyway - roughly the same speed too right?

So this card is really just for Nvidia haters? Since the freesync aspect is now gone too...
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wow wow, lol! I have had plenty of Nvidia cards, I might be picking up VII not because I am Nvidia hater. It's because I grabbed a 2080 for 599 but it had issues with freesync, even though I have top of the line freesync 2 monitor 48-144hz CGH70. No issue with AMD card but Nvidia wants be half-assed about it and support what they want. My monitor would go black for a second and come back randomly even while browsing.

Now not sure if it was my card, but almost all the ones I want are 800+. I grabbed it cuz it was a decent deal on open box. RTX and DLSS honestly are the last two things I care about. I was never going to use DLSS anyways and RTX isn't fast enough and looks nice in demos. Got it because price was good and support for freesync which didn't work well for me, whether it was the card or Nvidia's lack of fully testing all free sync 2 monitors.

Probably just going to pick up the Radeon 7 and call it a day.
 
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NKD said:
wow wow, lol! I have had plenty of Nvidia cards, I might be picking up VII not because I am Nvidia hater. It's because I grabbed a 2080 for 599 but it had issues with freesync, even though I have top of the line freesync 2 monitor 48-144hz CGH70. No issue with AMD card but Nvidia wants be half-assed about it and support what they want. My monitor would go black for a second and come back randomly even while browsing.

Now not sure if it was my card, but almost all the ones I want are 800+. I grabbed it cuz it was a decent deal on open box. RTX and DLSS honestly are the last two things I care about. I was never going to use DLSS anyways and RTX isn't fast enough and looks nice in demos. Got it because price was good and support for freesync which didn't work well for me, whether it was the card or Nvidia's lack of fully testing all free sync 2 monitors.

Probably just going to pick up the Radeon 7 and call it a day.
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That sounds strange, every post i have read so far say that the C27HG70 works perfectly with an Nvidia card and adaptive sync. Maybe you just have a bad card.
 
Maddness said:
That sounds strange, every post i have read so far say that the C27HG70 works perfectly with an Nvidia card and adaptive sync. Maybe you just have a bad card.
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Yea probably. I already returned it. Sadly all the ones I want are around like 800+. Since RTX and DLSS don’t matter much and I am at 1440p. Might just give Radeon 7 a shot. Since it’s not the blower Style. Triple fan looks good and plus rather not take chance with space invaders. Almost wanted a 2080 ti but got sticker shocked when I saw the prices lol. All triple fan ones are like 1350+ even 1600. Talk about beating the founders edition lol. Whatever happened to 999 msrp.
 
mvmiller12 said:
I would be interested in the card if it came cheaper without the games, because I have ZERO interest in those games at all...
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I agree. I miss the days of the "select the games you want" bundles heh


jbjmed82 said:
Is there any game out that would use that much vram?
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Fallout 76, which is also why it sees an insane 68% uplift in performance on this card, when nothing else reached nearly that level of gain.

However, in terms of games most people care about? No.

My theory is that they produced way more of the Instinct cards than the market was calling far, and they have some overstock they're aiming to get rid of. I have nothing concrete to back that up, it's just what my gut tells me. If you consider that only AMD is selling these, it makes a bit of sense, right? :p

(I own FO76 and can attest that it happily will consume all 8GB of my R9 390's VRAM. Which if GPUz's "Dynamic RAM" is indicative of using additional System RAM for VRAM, then the game also consumes an extra 800MB at times, too.)
 
nEo717 said:
Perhaps a better question is how many games will use VRAM 8GB (as previous Vega 64) or over at common resolutions like 1440p or 2160p - Battlefield 5 will/can, Division 2, BO4 are a few that can/will use the more ram, even more than 11GB (on Ti) in right system with settings turned up - so yes, there are.

Google VRAM usage of some of the more modern games, there are lots of opinions and results, however, give you an idea of a few games that benefit some from having the extra VRAM.
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Had no idea games are able to use that much vram. Thanks
 
Formula.350 said:
I agree. I miss the days of the "select the games you want" bundles heh



Fallout 76, which is also why it sees an insane 68% uplift in performance on this card, when nothing else reached nearly that level of gain.

However, in terms of games most people care about? No.

My theory is that they produced way more of the Instinct cards than the market was calling far, and they have some overstock they're aiming to get rid of. I have nothing concrete to back that up, it's just what my gut tells me. If you consider that only AMD is selling these, it makes a bit of sense, right? :p

(I own FO76 and can attest that it happily will consume all 8GB of my R9 390's VRAM. Which if GPUz's "Dynamic RAM" is indicative of using additional System RAM for VRAM, then the game also consumes an extra 800MB at times, too.)
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Well I don't own fallout 76 yet. But I think it's time for a graphics card upstate for me.
 
If it was listed for about $100 less then I think it would be a good buy. There should be an option not to include games for lesser price.
Also if anyone knows which game uses 16GB VRAM?
 
RD 2 has Texture settings and the 8bb one says your video card needs 12Gb of onboard vram to run it at that setting .
 
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