Ubisoft Creates Exclusive Partnership with Epic Games to Sell The Division 2

Mazzspeed said:
I never disputed that these capitalistic companies want to maximize profits, in fact if you read my post you will see that I actually quoted that's exactly what they want to do.

My point was that none of this is beneficial to the end consumer.

We now have half a dozen stores/launchers all sucking down system resources that effectively all do the exact same thing and any savings experienced by the developer are not passed in any way on to the consumer. It's all about greed and not customer experience, because that's what capitalistic USA is all about. I don't give two shits regarding what you think about Steam, who cares about Steam ten years ago?
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Your initial reply made little sense in all honesty. You're the one who went off on a tangent with why it isn't good for consumers. That isn't the point and as I already mentioned, your opinion is noted and discarded. You're stuck using launchers, period. And you'll use whatever one they make you use. And when games go subscription only, you'll go with that as well or you'll quit the hobby.

In regards to resources, it isn't that big of a deal. They take up what, ~300MB? I close all launchers when I'm not using them. It takes about 2 seconds. I used to do that with Steam but started leaving it on for the friends list, but pretty much everyone uses Discord now instead of Steam and I can't be bothered to use it. So I'll personally end up leaving Steam off again sooner or later unless I am playing a game. Don't really see the big deal.
 
Flogger23m said:
Your initial reply made little sense in all honesty. You're the one who went off on a tangent with why it isn't good for consumers. That isn't the point and as I already mentioned, your opinion is noted and discarded. You're stuck using launchers, period. And you'll use whatever one they make you use. And when games go subscription only, you'll go with that as well or you'll quit the hobby.

In regards to resources, it isn't that big of a deal. They take up what, ~300MB? I close all launchers when I'm not using them. It takes about 2 seconds. I used to do that with Steam but started leaving it on for the friends list, but pretty much everyone uses Discord now instead of Steam and I can't be bothered to use it. So I'll personally end up leaving Steam off again sooner or later unless I am playing a game. Don't really see the big deal.
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Well if that's how it works, your pointless ranting is, likewise, noted and discarded.

What a load of crap, you went on this huge tangent for no real reason whatsoever. :rolleyes:

At least you got one like, not that it means much. :ROFLMAO:
 
Litfod said:
But you'll have 3? Why not tell Activision/Blizzard to get fucked too? They could put their games on Steam if they wanted.
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Blizzard can get fucked. If not for playing WoW a few hours each week with some old friends, that launcher would be gone too. I have to draw the line somewhere and this is where it is.
 
Mazzspeed said:
I never disputed that these capitalistic companies want to maximize profits, in fact if you read my post you will see that I actually quoted that's exactly what they want to do.

My point was that none of this is beneficial to the end consumer.

We now have half a dozen stores/launchers all sucking down system resources that effectively all do the exact same thing and any savings experienced by the developer are not passed in any way on to the consumer. It's all about greed and not customer experience, because that's what capitalistic USA is all about. I don't give two shits regarding what you think about Steam, who cares about Steam ten years ago?
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You say none of this is beneficial to the consumer, but that's if you're not seeing the big picture. Tell me, which is better:

1. A bunch of various companies with their own launchers selling different games.
2. ONE company selling almost all games that can jack up prices at will, require your personal information to sell to other companies in order to run your games, start charging you a monthly fee for you to access your library or fee per download, etc.

Having competition PREVENTS #2. The future can get much, much worse for games. If there's only one main store, companies can get away with a lot more. If there's serious competition, they can't. This IS beneficial to the end consumer even if you don't see it, but it's not in "added bonus" way, it's in a "not backsliding even further" way. Look at something like internet providers. Europe has a lot of ISP competition and in many places you can get broadband for $15 or $20 no problem. The USA has a locked in regional monopolies. How's that working out for benefits?

And if that's not enough for you, we're finally getting Journey on the PC and Epic's been giving out free games. Those will probably be short lived, but they are real benefits for the consumer, right now.
 
tetris42 said:
2. ONE company selling almost all games that can jack up prices at will, require your personal information to sell to other companies in order to run your games, start charging you a monthly fee for you to access your library or fee per download, etc.
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I thought we were talking about Steam, not Windows. :ROFLMAO:

What you're proposing is modern good 'ol American capitalism, it's too late for competition to stop that ship now.
 
Flogger23m said:
Your initial reply made little sense in all honesty. You're the one who went off on a tangent with why it isn't good for consumers. That isn't the point and as I already mentioned, your opinion is noted and discarded. You're stuck using launchers, period. And you'll use whatever one they make you use. And when games go subscription only, you'll go with that as well or you'll quit the hobby.

In regards to resources, it isn't that big of a deal. They take up what, ~300MB? I close all launchers when I'm not using them. It takes about 2 seconds. I used to do that with Steam but started leaving it on for the friends list, but pretty much everyone uses Discord now instead of Steam and I can't be bothered to use it. So I'll personally end up leaving Steam off again sooner or later unless I am playing a game. Don't really see the big deal.
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Somebody else might have made the same comment and I missed it but I think you are the first to bring up closing clients. I have been trying to figure out where why everyone has every program on their computer load with windows. I have steam, origin, uplay, and probably 3 other launchers, but they don't all start when I log in. If I wanted to play a Ubisoft game then I launch uPlay and play the game. if I want to play an EA game I launch Origin. if I want to play something on the oculus I launch Oculus. If I want to play something else I launch steam. When I am done I exit the launcher. Either deal with the few seconds for the launcher to load or deal with the extra few Mb of memory out of your 64GB+ of RAM being used. Closing an extra tab in firefox would probably save most people more resources.
 
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