Overwatch Team Discovers Female Player Was a Male Imposter

DocNo said:
Why?

EDIT: and what the heck does TRUE equality mean anyway?!?
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I'll answer this.
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There will never be equality because people don't fucking want equality. They want special rights and privileges for whatever reason they can dream up. Have tits? Special rights! Skin not a shade of white? Special rights! Not straight? Special rights! Cut off your own cock and call yourself Sally, Queen of the Unicorns? Special rights!

Until we recognize people as individuals and not as part of some 'victimized group', equality cannot exist. Until we abolish all laws and regulations favoring one group over another, equality cannot exist.

As to TRUE equality...it's a utopian ideal. Life isn't fair. We have to collectively put on our big boy pants, accept that as fact, and move on with our lives without blaming others for every imagined disadvantage.

Maybe the black guy didn't get the job he applied for because there was a better candidate....not because of racism.
Maybe Sally, Queen of the Unicorns was given crap service at a video game store because teenage staffers (and most adults) don't know how to deal with a giant, mentally ill man wearing makeup and an attitude problem...not because he changed his pronouns.
 
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viscountalpha said:
RTFA

"And Overwatch players have hit out at the "Ellie" account, too. In one of the top posts on r/Overwatch, redditor hydra877 said: "Now, more than ever, any girl that tries to go pro will get this gigantic amount of scrutiny and will be practically forced to reveal aspects of their personal lives just to prove they're a woman."

Yeah. That's certainly not going to hurt any female gamers. at all.
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I did and that is just pure hyperbole nonsense. Every Pro gamer already is revealing everything about their identity. They have to fill out the same job and tax forms as anyone else earning income. That is like trying to argue that someone who applies to a job at the point they have accepted the position and started to sign tax paperwork they can still hide who they are and their sex. That is just stupid on its face.
 
why should gamers need to state their sex in the first place? Other gamers won't believe their female... who ... fucking ... cares what they believe or not. It's not the Olympics where there's different events for men and women.
 
sfsuphysics said:
why should gamers need to state their sex in the first place? Other gamers won't believe their female... who ... fucking ... cares what they believe or not. It's not the Olympics where there's different events for men and women.
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They don’t need to state their sex 99% of the time. However when they are going professional, at some point they need to be a real person with a name.
 
LigTasm said:
I hate to break it to you cupcake but identifying abnormalities is exactly how you find anything wrong in the history of ever. If the rules state that you put your name and you're the one out of 1000 other players that don't, someone is going to check you. And obviously the process was on point because this person wasn't who they said they were. Amazing, right?
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They said they were a name. People assumed otherwise. The beauty of the internet and life in general is you can choose to be whatever the hell you want in your own head. A virtual world allows your head to expand into reality a little.
The fact that people care what someone chooses to be in a virtual space is preposterous nonsense. The entire damned point of a virtual space is it is NOT REAL LIFE.
When someone elects to hunt down someones virtual personality and apply real life to it that is a functional mental illness. You don't DESERVE to know who someone is without their consent in a non-criminal matter. If you walk up to a person in the grocery store dressed in drag do you have the RIGHT to know everything about who they are? No, you don't.

If this shit happened outside of a virtual world it would be known as STALKING and INVASION OF PRIVACY.
 
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They said they were a name. People assumed otherwise. The beauty of the internet and life in general is you can choose to be whatever the hell you want in your own head. A virtual world allows your head to expand into reality a little.
The fact that people care what someone chooses to be in a virtual space is preposterous nonsense. The entire damned point of a virtual space is it is NOT REAL LIFE.
When someone elects to hunt down someones virtual personality and apply real life to it that is a functional mental illness. You don't DESERVE to know who someone is without their consent in a non-criminal matter. If you walk up to a person in the grocery store dressed in drag do you have the RIGHT to know everything about who they are? No, you don't.

If this shit happened outside of a virtual world it would be known as STALKING and INVASION OF PRIVACY.
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Its a ROSTER of PRO PLAYERS. They compete for MONEY. Its a JOB (one where they might even need to show up somewhere IN PERSON to compete). Guess what, sometimes they do background checks when you go for a JOB. You're trying to be righteously outraged for the wrong thing here, its not like someone was just playing a video game randomly and all this just happened.

Look man I'm with you on the online privacy thing and harassment and all that. It shouldn't matter in most cases who you are or how you choose to identify with the exception of official business and this crosses into that territory even if it involves a video game. Yes, a lot of the stuff that went down with this case is way beyond normal. But at the end of the day this was not a circumstance where the person had a reasonable expectation of privacy. They were required to be on voice comms I'm sure, do you know how awkward that must have been playing a game while having a 3rd party relay your conversation so you could have a "girl voice"? Because thats what happened. Of course the other players you need to work with on your team are going to get suspicious and try to take matters into their own hands.
 
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Liz Richardson, boss of Overwatch website Overwatchscore, said it will have "lasting ramifications" for women who already face an uphill challenge in esports. "Now, more than ever, any girl that tries to go pro will get this gigantic amount of scrutiny and will be practically forced to reveal aspects of their personal lives just to prove they're a woman."
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Well, what do you know, women are still the real victims in all of this. Who'd have thought it?
 
this scandal is good in giving us a nifty list of game journalism websites to avoid

and if there was a real female player, she will get insta-mega sponsorship + appearance deals. (same thing as in motor racing)

lots of discrimination against male players alright..lol
 
As if this counts as a "normal" scenario when a person with a low-level account, no history, and a fake name (when everyone else had real names) suddenly popped up on a professional team and claiming to be female (an outlier in the OW esport scene).

When you start a fire and people say they smell smoke and investigate, it doesn't mean anything other than that people can pretty easily sniff out when something is wrong.
 
Abhaxus said:
You're probably just forgetting what things were like back when WoW was the only MMO on the market. As the first MMO, a lot of terms were appropriated from other games and genres and redefined. Just like WOW redefined online gaming forever with it's revolutionary gameplay.
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What are you talking about? WoW was never the only MMO on the market? That's crazy talk.

There were a dozen or more MMO's before Wow came along.

My clan in Lineage II was decimated by WoW when it released. I couldn't do the cutsie cartoon graphix of WoW so I never switched. But that was Lineage 2 because there was a Lineage before it. Just like both Everquests, and others as well.

WoW was not the first MMO by any stretch at all.
 
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Is the same amount of energy spent when a male player uses a male character? Or is it only when there is a potential female people must be creepy and know for certain? In my games i play male and female toons. Though I only get messages and compliments when I play my female toons.
 
viscountalpha said:
RTFA

"And Overwatch players have hit out at the "Ellie" account, too. In one of the top posts on r/Overwatch, redditor hydra877 said: "Now, more than ever, any girl that tries to go pro will get this gigantic amount of scrutiny and will be practically forced to reveal aspects of their personal lives just to prove they're a woman."

Yeah. That's certainly not going to hurt any female gamers. at all.
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Well, if you give this moron's comment any credence ..... Why are you quoting a fool?
 
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