My First Personal AMD Box in a While

Dan_D said:
He should be able to turn off or control the RGB effects. Taking wire cutters to it is probably not necessary.
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If it works, then who cares. This RGB crap is asinine these days.

Hell, it is bad enough that it is difficult these days to get a case without a stupid window.
 
Brackle said:
yea I really hate all this RGB shit that alot of the PC components have today. I personally like very little light in my case.....Shit I just turned 40 I think im just old and cranky now at all this new aged shit laugh.
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lol young pup! :D You got a long way to go to catch me.

Personally I can take em or leave em. My 'puter sits on the floor with the left side beside my desk so I wouldn't see the disco lights anyway. I just turn them off when I can.
 
4330thgink said:
If it works, then who cares. This RGB crap is asinine these days.

Hell, it is bad enough that it is difficult these days to get a case without a stupid window.
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I love the RGB. The more the better. I'm glad everything comes with RGB.

Hey news flash for you... you can turn it off and there will be no RGB.

I've been building PCs since 90s.
 
Brackle said:
yea I really hate all this RGB shit that alot of the PC components have today. I personally like very little light in my case.....Shit I just turned 40 I think im just old and cranky now at all this new aged shit laugh.
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I like *some* RGB lighting... *in moderation*... and not this flashing/pulsing rainbow effect bullshit. The builds with some uniform colored lighting look nice to me...
 
Pretty close to what I want, though I'm thinking 2920x for some more extreme overclocking, tempted to switch the cold plates on my cascade cooler to something more appropriate for TR4...
 
This is a good FLIR shot last night after the box had been running full Threadripper load for an hour.

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And that's with the 240mm right?

Did I read correctly that you're also going to try the 360 variant?
 
horrorshow said:
And that's with the 240mm right?

Did I read correctly that you're also going to try the 360 variant?
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Yes. That is with the LiqTek II 240. I got the LiqTek II 360 in last night. I ran some real world numbers while editing video last night, so I will be able to compare the two. Interested in what I will find.

I do have the LiqTek II 240 exhausting out of the top of the case.
 
Well, I got my box out, stripped out the wiring the 240 cooler, which had a GREAT MATE on the coldplate, and opened the new box to find out they shipped me the wrong cooler. :(
 
Since you are dabbling with custom water on the test bench, any plans to put a custom loop in your workstation? A little birdie told me the Threadripper likes good cooling :p
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Interesting.

Is that kind of cooling of NVME cards really necessary?
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Informed speculation: generally speaking, it's the controllers that get hot and limit performance in the worst case, a la Samsung 960 Pro drives, but this isn't present under normal workloads. Sustained, multi-gigabyte transfers are usually necessary to trigger throttling. So no.

However, if you're going to throw four NVME drives in there and then say stripe them for performance- you need >10GB/s transfer speeds, right?- then perhaps the cooler will prevent throttling. Just need a pair of Mellanox 100Gbit cards to test between systems...
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Very good point. Samsung's specs and product numbering are confusing.
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one thing i have noticed with the samsung line of m.2's is anything with a green pcb is sata3, and black pcb will be pcie. Not 100% sure that works 100% of the time, however it has held true for me and the 30 or so builds i have done in the last 6-7 months
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Very nice! As someone who got rid of my Silverstone Raven RV03 in 2015, I was wondering how long you were going to keep yours.

It was a good case, but it started acting up towards the end (probably because I took a hacksaw to it to fit a larger radiator :p )
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I've still got my Raven RV03, love this case, granted I haven't done any sort of modding to it, just the normal throw components at it and see what sticks.
 
alxlwson said:
I had to put an EKWB passive heatsink on my 950 Pro due to throttling when gaming. I can't imagine what it would look like when using one for a scratch disk or other constant hard hitting program like those used in content creation.
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I am going to put the MSI heatsink in without the fan connected as I did not like hearing it. That hearing is huge. Not sure if it will fully heatload or not. Will see.
 
alxlwson said:
I am interested in this, so any feedback would be awesome!
Not that I would think there should be, but is there any hit by using an adapter card vs the m.2 slot for nvme drives?
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None that I see. The transfer at 1.5GGBps.
 
Nolan7689 said:
I've still got my Raven RV03, love this case, granted I haven't done any sort of modding to it, just the normal throw components at it and see what sticks.
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It replaced my old first gen Antec Sonata and served me well for many years.

I was never thrilled with the gold trim in the front, but other than that it was a good case. Only downside is that there wasn't much in the way of space to mount radiators. That and the clips on my lid broke over time (too much removing and putting it back on again, I guess. I'm a tinkerer)

Back in 2011 I wanted more cooling for my CPU. The case could t fit a dual 120mm AIO, but CoolIT had made a single slot 180mm version which they sold exclusively to MainGear and I got my hands on one. I was thrilled because the RV03 had a seemingly perfect place to mount it at the bottom on top of one of the 180mm fans, and a single 180mm radiator has more swept area than a dual 120, so for the time short of custom water loops this was the most CPU cooling money could buy.

Only problem was the motherboard tray got in the way, so it wouldn't fit:
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So I took a hacksaw to the case to remove some of the extra motherboard tray to make it fit.

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I cut it along the red lines to get it installed:

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I was able to sandwich it in there in push-pull.

Worked great for about 4 years, but over time the material I removed resulted in it becoming a little flimsy, and I think some metal was shorting against something somewhere, resulting in random restarts. I can't complain though. I got 4 years of great cooling out of it, and nothing lasts forever.

I replaced it with a Corsair 750D in 2015, which I have been very happy with, but I wish was a little bigger. :p

I don't care for this modern ITX trend. Full Tower isnt big enough :p

Anyway, I've hijacked Kyle's thread enough for one day....
 
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alxlwson said:
I am interested in this, so any feedback would be awesome!
Not that I would think there should be, but is there any hit by using an adapter card vs the m.2 slot for nvme drives?
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Theoretically there shouldn't be. An m2 slot when operating in PCIe mode is just 2 or 4 PCIe lanes, just like a PCIe slot. As long as your adapter routes all the needed lanes, and you put it in a big enough slot, the experience should be identical.

I have an m.2 Samsung 970 EVO in a less fancy PCI slot adapter, and it works at advertised speeds.
 
"MSI has stated that this product will ship with their new X399 MEG Creation motherboard. At this time it is unknown whether or not MSI plans to release their Xpander Aero M.2 PCIe expansion card separately." -overclock3d.net

So far, you have to get the MEG to get the expansion card it seems. I wouldn't mind one either
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
How do you like it? Is the fan speed controlled based on temp at all, or fixed speed? How loud is it?
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Fan is too loud for me, rather the pitch is. I took the fan and heatsink off. Going to put the HSF back on, but just use the heatsink. I cannot find a fan profile for it or any way to control it. I did not spend a lot of time looking either. Just put MSI control center on last night, need to put the unit back together and see if CC picks it up.

I want to use the LiqTech II TR4 360 cooler for a while and see how it goes for reviewing purposes. I will be fully water cooling this system at some point in the future.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
How does the fan connect? Does it plug into the riser card?
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Yes, fully shown in the video. And yes, it would be a much better solution than the PCIe connector used with is overkill. But MSI stated outright that they wanted it to look like a video card, and that is exactly what they did.

 
Nobu said:
I've been looking for one of these! How much you selling it for? :p
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I just googled that one.

I found one to my great amusement in ~2011 at work hanging out in one of the labs at work, being used to control some piece of equipment (cant remember). I took a picture of it back then, but couldn't find it today, so, Google...
 
If AMD keeps at it like they have been then my next box (in 2-3 years) will likely also have an AMD CPU.

My last AMD CPU was an Athlon64 X2 4400+ from 2006 (was almost exclusively buying AMD CPUs back then). Great CPU that lasted me until 2011 when I got the i7 2600K (which also lasted about 5 years before upgrading).
 
exlink said:
If AMD keeps at it like they have been then my next box (in 2-3 years) will likely also have an AMD CPU.

My last AMD CPU was an Athlon64 X2 4400+ from 2006 (was almost exclusively buying AMD CPUs back then). Great CPU that lasted me until 2011 when I got the i7 2600K (which also lasted about 5 years before upgrading).
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My last AMD setup was a dual Opteron 254 setup on a Tyan S2895 (K8WE). That was switched out for a Core 2 Duo E8600 setup. Later, I used that same chip on an NVIDIA 680i SLI setup, which was trash. Then back to dual processing with Intel's D5400XS and two Core 2 Extreme QX9775's.
 
My last AMD system was an Athlon 64 X2 chip.. so it's been a while. Just upgraded from an i5 3570k to a shiny new Ryzen 2700x and it's been amazing.

I figured my i5 was holding my 1080ti back, and i've been super impressed since buidling this new AMD system for christmas. Looking forward to the Ryzen 3000 series... i'll do a drop in upgrade if it seems worthwhile... just like I did when I went from Athlon 64 3000+ to the X2! I will have come full circle.
 
My previous AMD setup was an Athlon (Mustang) Socket A. Been riding the Intel train until AMD came out with the Threadrippers. Not regretting it in the least.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I'd snip off this connector and solder a standard fan connector to it (at least on those it followed the same 4 pin 12v, gnd, rpm, PWM scheme as CPU fans) and then control the fan through a motherboard fan header, or fan controller.
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Once I find out whether or not the heatsink in passive mode will keep those cool I will move to rewiring that myself if I need to.
 
Might consider playing with inline resisters like what Noctua ships with their fans to reduce fan speed. Would think that airflow needs would be minimal.

As an aside, I have a MSI's RX560 and GTX1050Ti that both appear to use the same fan, and their inaudible absent load. If it's the same fan, should be able to spin it down to silent.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
Might consider playing with inline resisters like what Noctua ships with their fans to reduce fan speed. Would think that airflow needs would be minimal.

As an aside, I have a MSI's RX560 and GTX1050Ti that both appear to use the same fan, and their inaudible absent load. If it's the same fan, should be able to spin it down to silent.
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Err... I think you meant to say inaudible, because no fan, even undervolted ones are silent.
 
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