It’s like when Roseanne blamed her sleeping pills for making her racist and the company had to respond with a Tweet that said their pills do not turn you racist.Blame? How about contributing factor? Something has changed in recent history.
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It’s like when Roseanne blamed her sleeping pills for making her racist and the company had to respond with a Tweet that said their pills do not turn you racist.Blame? How about contributing factor? Something has changed in recent history.
It’s like when Roseanne blamed her sleeping pills for making her racist and the company had to respond with a Tweet that said their pills do not turn you racist.
The problem with the insurance idea is that is would require people to register their firearms. Now in past, other countries have used such gun registries to enact confiscation efforts 20-30 years down the road. Australia, for example required people to register their long guns in the 1970s, and then used those lists to do mass confiscation on semi-auto guns in the mid-90s. So American gun owners have learned from this and won't comply with registration laws in the first place. The "SAFE" act New York passed in 2013 required New Yorkers to register certain kinds of scary-looking semi-auto rifles; of the estimated million or so New Yorkers that own these kinds of rifles, only ~40k registered them; the other 96% saw what happened elsewhere and decided to NOPE that idea. And that is with New Yorkers; imagine trying to get southerners or the mountain states or midwest that isn't Chicago to comply. You can't get gun owners to register without them being able to trust that the registration system won't screw them over in 20 years; that sort of trust just is not there politically.
We have 24/7 access to social media broadcasting every intimate detail of our lives around the globe.Oh I'm not saying it won't have challenges. But once a couple of these gun owners start serving time after their guns are stolen and not reported then used for a crime. I have a feeling that will change the tune of many more. And perhaps PERHAPS it will stop people from buying guns just to sell them for a markup to people looking to commit further criminal acts with them? As an example. Lets say I had a friend who had served time in prison so could not pass a background check to buy a firearm. And lets say this friend needed a gun to commit a crime. They come to me knowing I own several firearms. We chat some and go to a range together and I let him use a few of mine. He works me and eventually asks if I had a firearm I'd be willing to sell him. Being worked and effectively primed to sell him a gun I do so. Since I'm a freedom loving gun toting fuck the system kind of guy I never registered it. Now he has a un registered fire arm to do as he will with. When my Friend then go's on to get into a heat style shootout using among other weapons a gun I sold him... quite legally without registering it. I have ZERO liability to the acts he commits with the gun.
Now if on that same token we were talking drug dealing and someone OD'd on the drug of choice that I sold to him to sell to someone else we wold all be complicit and RICO acted and in jail together for manslaughter if not murder.
In my first example if I knew I would be protected from criminal liability and had registered and insured my firearm. Taken steps to make sure it is secure.. (I personally love the smart gun idea.) and then filed appropriate paperwork for selling this gun to an individual that presented copies of appropriate license to me.. (Meaning 2 forms of picture ID and such.) Then transferred that license to them and filed it in a timely manner. The ownus is on the state to check that filing to make sure it is accurate and the person who now owns the firearm is a legal owner. If they used Fake ID's that weren't stupid fake looking then I am in the clear because I registered the sell and transfer. If they then commit a crime with that firearm it is on the state and I am again in the clear. BUT if the state finds that this gun was sold to someone and I was duped I am still in the clear and the state can now go on to hunt down the individual based on information I do have. Succeed or fail I am in the clear AND the individual that now has the firearm has a higher chance of being caught and prevented from doing anything.
We have FAR TOO MANY irresponsible gun owners and no way to properly punish them. If your 4 year old kid can get their hands on your loaded firearm alone. THEN IT IS NOT PROPERLY SECURED.
If your nephew/son who is on medication for societal disorders can get your firearms you probably don't have them properly secured. (Or probably maybe shouldn't even have them if they have access to them/your home.).
With mass shootings being a damn near weekly event in the US we need to do something about it.
Just like we try to do things about heart disease and auto accidents.
edit: any further responses will come as edits, I like my post count number atm.
Oh I'm not saying it won't have challenges. But once a couple of these gun owners start serving time after their guns are stolen and not reported then used for a crime. I have a feeling that will change the tune of many more. And perhaps PERHAPS it will stop people from buying guns just to sell them for a markup to people looking to commit further criminal acts with them? As an example. Lets say I had a friend who had served time in prison so could not pass a background check to buy a firearm. And lets say this friend needed a gun to commit a crime. They come to me knowing I own several firearms. We chat some and go to a range together and I let him use a few of mine. He works me and eventually asks if I had a firearm I'd be willing to sell him. Being worked and effectively primed to sell him a gun I do so. Since I'm a freedom loving gun toting fuck the system kind of guy I never registered it. Now he has a un registered fire arm to do as he will with. When my Friend then go's on to get into a heat style shootout using among other weapons a gun I sold him... quite legally without registering it. I have ZERO liability to the acts he commits with the gun.
Now if on that same token we were talking drug dealing and someone OD'd on the drug of choice that I sold to him to sell to someone else we wold all be complicit and RICO acted and in jail together for manslaughter if not murder.
In my first example if I knew I would be protected from criminal liability and had registered and insured my firearm. Taken steps to make sure it is secure.. (I personally love the smart gun idea.) and then filed appropriate paperwork for selling this gun to an individual that presented copies of appropriate license to me.. (Meaning 2 forms of picture ID and such.) Then transferred that license to them and filed it in a timely manner. The ownus is on the state to check that filing to make sure it is accurate and the person who now owns the firearm is a legal owner. If they used Fake ID's that weren't stupid fake looking then I am in the clear because I registered the sell and transfer. If they then commit a crime with that firearm it is on the state and I am again in the clear. BUT if the state finds that this gun was sold to someone and I was duped I am still in the clear and the state can now go on to hunt down the individual based on information I do have. Succeed or fail I am in the clear AND the individual that now has the firearm has a higher chance of being caught and prevented from doing anything.
We have FAR TOO MANY irresponsible gun owners and no way to properly punish them. If your 4 year old kid can get their hands on your loaded firearm alone. THEN IT IS NOT PROPERLY SECURED.
If your nephew/son who is on medication for societal disorders can get your firearms you probably don't have them properly secured. (Or probably maybe shouldn't even have them if they have access to them/your home.).
With mass shootings being a damn near weekly event in the US we need to do something about it.
Just like we try to do things about heart disease and auto accidents.
The not selling M rated games thing to minors is just a store policy; California did have a law about it, but as I mentioned the Supreme Court struck it down. Any of those stores could change that policy and sell to minors with nothing more than a PR hit. That does bring about an interesting legal question - has anyone ever challenged those store policies on an age discrimination basis? Age is one of the standard protected classes written into most civil rights laws alongside religion and race. If a flight training school had a policy refusing Muslims, or a car rental place wouldn't rent to Asians, it seems you would get lawsuits right away. So why can stores choose to not sell M rated games to people who can legally buy them? The closest I have seen is a case out of Oregon, where an 18 year old woman sued Walmart for not selling her a rifle (Walmart having recently decided to only sell ammo & firearms to those 21 and over). She won the case in the state court there, with Walmart found to be in violation of Oregon's Civil Rights laws.
Hey, if [H] has any class-action lawyers reading this, I just found your next payday!
Guys.. and girls guns just make it a hell of a lot easier to kill effectively and at range. We need better controls and resposibility around who has them. My suggestion require all guns to be insured for liability. The insurance companies will protect their profits and establish rules of gun ownership for cheaper insurance. This will promote technology and solutions be created that fit this. No new restricts on gun laws are needed. Just some up front investment on an insurable solution to own guns. Someone steals your gun and commits a crime and it's been greater that xx hours since your gun was stolen that you didn't report it... you're liable for their actions as well.
But to get back to video games.. How are they going to do this. A state tax would go nowhere fast as people would just drive across a border to get better deals or order online from somewhere that used an honor system for taxes. A federal tax would never pass currently. I don't think there is much to fear from this other than calling out a idiot on being stupid.
Current popular shooters are nowhere near realistic so they can't even use that any more. (I'm looking at fornite.)
That sounds about as smart as taxing video games. As in, its really dumb.
Gross.
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Guns are designed to kill. Period end of story. If someone uses your gun to kill someone because you didn't properly secure it ...................
Guys.. and girls guns just make it a hell of a lot easier to kill effectively and at range. We need better controls and resposibility around who has them. My suggestion require all guns to be insured for liability. The insurance companies will protect their profits and establish rules of gun ownership for cheaper insurance. This will promote technology and solutions be created that fit this. No new restricts on gun laws are needed. Just some up front investment on an insurable solution to own guns. Someone steals your gun and commits a crime and it's been greater that xx hours since your gun was stolen that you didn't report it... you're liable for their actions as well.
But to get back to video games.. How are they going to do this. A state tax would go nowhere fast as people would just drive across a border to get better deals or order online from somewhere that used an honor system for taxes. A federal tax would never pass currently. I don't think there is much to fear from this other than calling out a idiot on being stupid.
Current popular shooters are nowhere near realistic so they can't even use that any more. (I'm looking at fornite.)
I'm gonna keep the word "polishitians" in my back pocket.Can we start tarring and feathering polishitians for making stupid laws!?
Oh I'm not saying it won't have challenges. But once a couple of these gun owners start serving time after their guns are stolen and not reported then used for a crime. I have a feeling that will change the tune of many more. And perhaps PERHAPS it will stop people from buying guns just to sell them for a markup to people looking to commit further criminal acts with them? As an example. Lets say I had a friend who had served time in prison so could not pass a background check to buy a firearm. And lets say this friend needed a gun to commit a crime. They come to me knowing I own several firearms. We chat some and go to a range together and I let him use a few of mine. He works me and eventually asks if I had a firearm I'd be willing to sell him. Being worked and effectively primed to sell him a gun I do so. Since I'm a freedom loving gun toting fuck the system kind of guy I never registered it. ..............
Oh I'm not saying it won't have challenges. But once a couple of these gun owners start serving time after their guns are stolen and not reported then used for a crime. I have a feeling that will change the tune of many more.
If we're on the topic of gun laws. At the very least I think gun laws should be same across the board. If a specific conviction is preventing you from buying a gun in one state, you shouldn't be able to drive to another state to bypass that road block.
I love your rebuttal. It's concise and expansive in meaning all at once. Your intelligence astounds me.
If we're on the topic of gun laws. At the very least I think gun laws should be same across the board. If a specific conviction is preventing you from buying a gun in one state, you shouldn't be able to drive to another state to bypass that road block.
Your counter point was truly compelling and added to the conversation at hand. Thank you.
If we're on the topic of gun laws. At the very least I think gun laws should be same across the board. If a specific conviction is preventing you from buying a gun in one state, you shouldn't be able to drive to another state to bypass that road block.
We also have far more restrictions and lengthier process to obtain a gun license. If I decide to get a gun I believe my wife or a close family/friend has to also provide a reference that I'm mentally competent enough to own a gun. We also don't have the gun culture up here and don't share the same feeling of entitlement to gun ownership as the US.
Coincidentally we also have far fewer shootings and waaay less mass shootings.
I think someone who isn't 'stable' and is overly angry likely will find themselves playing violent games.
NO there is no evidence to prove that. 99% of people who play M rated games or any games are good moral people that dont commit violent crimes.
Not going to lie, as a relatively newer regular poster on these forums of geeks and gamers, I figured ya'll would be anti-gun.
Color me impressed.
All my buddies that I wheel and hunt with don't even own a computer.You thought that about this group of rednecks here? We are all atari gamers quickly working up into sitting on our porches with shotguns to chase away the darn kids!
All my buddies that I wheel and hunt with don't even own a computer.
I try to explain to them that I was up late last night shooting for 5/8 Mythic with my guildmates (this was months ago) but ran out of time. They look at me like I grew a second head.nice. The group I go shooting with, all have gaming pc's. Its fun when what used to be completely different groups are merged.
Make sure you wear your brown shorts or pants when you do.I'm gonna keep the word "polishitians" in my back pocket.
I love your lack of understanding of the EDIT function, with the multiple posts and all, and the lack of understanding of the "Quote multiple posters in the same post", as you denigrate other posters intelligence.
Way to go, idiot.
Let your Freak Flag Fly.
If you can't understand the problem, you are unlikely to have a clue on the solution to said problem.
Thanks for participating, tho; you made a bunch of us feel better.
And lol.
To be on topic though. I do believe that taxing the sale of violent video games is only, in the long run, going to hurt local retailers in that state. People have by and large accepted the convenience of digital delivery for video games. Console's being the last holdout. Once digital delivery is fully accepted bypassing these additional taxes imposed by states will be simple for anyone looking for a deal. Congratulations state laws that only protect the state from future income possibilities.