Fortnite Streamer Reportedly Arrested after Beating Wife on Stream

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This is a spoiler, you've got to watch the entire brilliant episode, well the entire brilliant series, but here is the relevant clip of humanity when the internet breaks:



Sick, but I see it as what some would say is endemic of a much larger problem today. That said, imagine the pandemonium that could ensue if the Internet were shut down.

A lot of people might not know what to do with themselves (short of pouring a can of Budweiser on their left hand):
 
Domestic violence happens everyday, none of it has been newsworthy since Jerry Springer. Bout 2 months ago some old couple down the street from me got into an argument and he shot her in the head. Aside from 10 seconds on the local news station and a small front page article in a local newspaper, nobody really knew or cared outside of their immediate family. Not even a rant or rave about "gun violence -snip .
Yeah, but here there is sound and video to play, that makes a big difference to the media.


As far as this couple: I'd hope (if they want to stay together) they are forced into long term family therapy with the threat of removing the children if they don't attend and behave themselves.
 
Some adults apparently only ever grow up physically, not mentally. Beating your wife because you are asked to stop playing Fortnite and come have dinner is not adult behavior.

That, and there is something about this game. Players behave like crack addicts having their drug taken away when asked to stop playing it.
 
I would be interested to see how all these white knights would react to a real life domestic violence assault. Not a made up one in their head that lets them be a perfect gentleman, remaining noble and just. A real one, where the woman is pushing you and hitting you. One where she is physically blocking you from leaving the house. One where if you finally make it outside to your car she then stands behind the vehicle so you cannot leave. One where the woman physically sits on you screaming in your face for literally hours while your daughter is screaming in the car nearby. Knowing that you cannot touch her because the moment you do, you go to jail.

zero tolerance is zero intelligence

two wrongs do not make a right, but neither does one wrong.
 
I don't think either of them come off well. I'm guessing they regular abuse one another; surely many of you have known couples like that.
 
I would be interested to see how all these white knights would react to a real life domestic violence assault. Not a made up one in their head that lets them be a perfect gentleman, remaining noble and just. A real one, where the woman is pushing you and hitting you. One where she is physically blocking you from leaving the house. One where if you finally make it outside to your car she then stands behind the vehicle so you cannot leave. One where the woman physically sits on you screaming in your face for literally hours while your daughter is screaming in the car nearby. Knowing that you cannot touch her because the moment you do, you go to jail.

zero tolerance is zero intelligence

two wrongs do not make a right, but neither does one wrong.


....simple....whip out that fancy ass samsung or iphone your overpaying for..start recording...call police...wait for them to show....
 
....simple....whip out that fancy ass samsung or iphone your overpaying for..start recording...call police...wait for them to show....

gee... i never thought of that /s

you forget that males cannot be a victim of DV. I have video of my ex trying to hit my current wife with an SUV. Take a wild guess what the police did.
 
I would be interested to see how all these white knights would react to a real life domestic violence assault. Not a made up one in their head that lets them be a perfect gentleman, remaining noble and just. A real one, where the woman is pushing you and hitting you. One where she is physically blocking you from leaving the house. One where if you finally make it outside to your car she then stands behind the vehicle so you cannot leave. One where the woman physically sits on you screaming in your face for literally hours while your daughter is screaming in the car nearby. Knowing that you cannot touch her because the moment you do, you go to jail.

zero tolerance is zero intelligence

two wrongs do not make a right, but neither does one wrong.


as a criminal defense attorney who frequently represents wife beaters and the occasional husband beater I'll say your scenario is pretty much fantasy land
 
gee... i never thought of that /s

you forget that males cannot be a victim of DV. I have video of my ex trying to hit my current wife with an SUV. Take a wild guess what the police did.


i wont take a guess...i do however know you stated a falsehood having been a victim myself...came home from afghanistan to find my now ex in bed with another man...well technically he was trying to climb out my window as i was walking in front door....when i noticed what was happening she started verbally assaulting me, and then physically shoving and slapping me....meanwhile i had my phone out had recorded the whole interaction, and called cops... i didnt goto jail...she got hauled off.... guess thats because im a white male/service member.../s needless to say all you heard me say during the interaction was "what the fuck"
 
gee... i never thought of that /s

you forget that males cannot be a victim of DV. I have video of my ex trying to hit my current wife with an SUV. Take a wild guess what the police did.

utter horseshit.... while it's not as frequent, I currently represent a few women who were charged with DV...
 
as a criminal defense attorney who frequently represents wife beaters and the occasional husband beater I'll say your scenario is pretty much fantasy land

I realize my experience is anecdotal, certainly not representing the norm. but a criminal defense attorney who cannot see these things as possible? sounds like part of the problem.
 
I realize my experience is anecdotal, certainly not representing the norm. but a criminal defense attorney who cannot see these things as possible? sounds like part of the problem.
I've seen plenty of outlandish shit. and yes I'd say what ever your experience was, would be exceptionally rare and I have no doubt that you left out a lot of details.
 
I've seen plenty of outlandish shit. and yes I'd say what ever your experience was, would be exceptionally rare and I have no doubt that you left out a lot of details.

I respect what you do and the bull that you have to put up with. I suspect that you deal with half-truths and outright lies on a daily basis. My question though is; is it exceptionally rare because it rarely happens, or that noone believes it when it does?

EDIT: you are right about the details, I have enough to fill a book. My court filing was almost two inches thick.
 
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gee... i never thought of that /s

you forget that males cannot be a victim of DV. I have video of my ex trying to hit my current wife with an SUV. Take a wild guess what the police did.

Calling BS. My aunt spent the night in a cell for scratching my uncle's face. The cops even encouraged my uncle to file charges but he wouldn't. Such a toxic relationship but they just can't keep away from each other. But that's a story for another thread.
 
She hit him first? I'm not about to watch the video. But if there's evidence of that, then he'll get these charges lowered for sure. Something like mutual combat or something similar. It's in front of a kid, so it's still a felony in most states. But the sentence won't have quite the punch it could have. If that's the case, he'll be out before Christmas.

Multiple times. Especially if you count throwing things at him. Look, I don't like anybody hitting anybody, but she literally initiated physical assault several times before he finally snapped.
 
Why is she not charged for throwing stuff at him?
He's an asshole for slapping her, but how is she not guilty?

just a thought on the matter but its likely because 1. you never see anything hit him, you might see the camera moving because of whatever reason...however you do hear the physical attack on his part to her....and there was likely physical evidence concluding as such.... but honestly all that is for the courts to decide....

i will say im fairly confident that 9/10 when they take a male away despite evidence being conclusive...its likely simply to seperate, and diffuse...and less to do with charges.... but im not a attorny or anything so who knows...
 
just a thought on the matter but its likely because 1. you never see anything hit him, you might see the camera moving because of whatever reason...however you do hear the physical attack on his part to her....and there was likely physical evidence concluding as such.... but honestly all that is for the courts to decide....

i will say im fairly confident that 9/10 when they take a male away despite evidence being conclusive...its likely simply to seperate, and diffuse...and less to do with charges.... but im not a attorny or anything so who knows...

You can clearly see him having to react multiple times to her actions.
 
You can clearly see him having to react multiple times to her actions.


reacting is not being hit... has anyone ever acted like they were going to hit you, and you flinch?

kinda the same thing either way doesnt make it right...im not standing up for her, they both got issues that need to be dealt with...however its clear from his actions...hes more likely to end up in the deep end...
 
This is just one of the many reasons why I believe people need to be sterilized at birth and earn the right to have children.
 
Wife said they are both wrong. She guesses that this is nornal behavior for them. She doesnt feel bad for her being hit as she likely knew it would happen
 
as a criminal defense attorney who frequently represents wife beaters and the occasional husband beater I'll say your scenario is pretty much fantasy land

as a guy that has been involved with chicks that are not in touch with what normal people would call 'reality' ill say your idea of that scenario as fantasy land means you apparently have never had contact with crazy.
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you're trollin.
 
There is no objective man hit pregnant woman if you cant see that as fucking wrong you are damaged soul and i fear for your wife and family

People shouldn't attack people, but if you believe in Defense, then man or woman, pregnant or not, if someone attacks me, I have a right to attack back insofar as preventing future attacks.
 
where in that video did anything you say happen? she told him to come eat she cooked.....he got abusive?


you know im not even going to bother arguing it cause clearly your making shit up.... but heres the end all be all...

regardless of wether she came at him with a fuckin simi...should he in turn be abusive...physically or emotionally, especially infront of a child
.. the only legal course of action is simply to get up and walk away....

So you weren't watching at 45 seconds? She's throwing things at him, he says "Can you not?" And again at 53 seconds when he's trying to get up and still either getting hit or stuff thrown at him? Let's pause there and ask... where would we all be if he had called the police at that point since she's acting crazy? Would the world rally behind him as a survivor of domestic abuse? Would everyone be saying "poor him" ? Odds are nobody would know or care if that's all the situation was.

He has issues and made a bad choice, lost his shit and now has to pay the price, but you don't want to seem to want to admit the domestic violence going on here is a two way street. Or you realize this, and want to give her a pass because she's a woman? Which is it?


My point is that there's blame on both sides of the equation here, and the internet rallying behind her as if she's some completely innocent person here shows exactly how little people care to understand a situation. What pisses me off about all of it is that instant baseless conclusion of "Man=bad, woman=good" while making a conscious effort to ignore 50% of what happened in that video.
 
Here's the full video where she is throwing minor stuff at him off-screen and swings at him once or twice.


This is assault on her part. She initiated. There's no fucking way around it. She broke the law, and initiated combat. In front of her child.

I was all set to defend this girl and call this guy a shitbag. But it's the other way around without a doubt now that I've watched it. DON'T HIT PEOPLE AND EXPECT NOT TO GET HIT BACK! How fucking hard is this for modern women to understand?

This dude protected himself from assault. He should have called the cops instead of initiating in mutual combat in front of a child. But this bitch doesn't just need slapped. She needs slapped in cuffs and her parental rights seriously questioned in a court of law.

reacting is not being hit... has anyone ever acted like they were going to hit you, and you flinch?

kinda the same thing either way doesnt make it right...im not standing up for her, they both got issues that need to be dealt with...however its clear from his actions...hes more likely to end up in the deep end...

If someone swings on me, whether they hit me or not, I'm swinging back. And I'm legally entitled to. But of course, the laws for marriage have fucked it all up. So the laws that allow me to defend myself are superseded by local laws that target men instead of the aggressor in these situations. So if it's my wife, according to the law, I have to lay down and take it like a bitch. But if not, I'm legally entitled to defend myself with whatever force it takes to eliminate the threat.

Moral of the story? Don't fucking get married. All bitches be crazy, whether it's themselves, or the force of law behind them (even if they don't want it).
 
So you weren't watching at 45 seconds? She's throwing things at him, he says "Can you not?" And again at 53 seconds when he's trying to get up and still either getting hit or stuff thrown at him? Let's pause there and ask... where would we all be if he had called the police at that point since she's acting crazy? Would the world rally behind him as a survivor of domestic abuse? Would everyone be saying "poor him" ? Odds are nobody would know or care if that's all the situation was.

He has issues and made a bad choice, lost his shit and now has to pay the price, but you don't want to seem to want to admit the domestic violence going on here is a two way street. Or you realize this, and want to give her a pass because she's a woman? Which is it?


My point is that there's blame on both sides of the equation here, and the internet rallying behind her as if she's some completely innocent person here shows exactly how little people care to understand a situation. What pisses me off about all of it is that instant baseless conclusion of "Man=bad, woman=good" while making a conscious effort to ignore 50% of what happened in that video.

you need to read my other post...nothing else to say here
 
This is assault on her part. She initiated. There's no fucking way around it. She broke the law, and initiated combat. In front of her child.

I was all set to defend this girl and call this guy a shitbag. But it's the other way around without a doubt now that I've watched it. DON'T HIT PEOPLE AND EXPECT NOT TO GET HIT BACK! How fucking hard is this for modern women to understand?

This dude protected himself from assault. He should have called the cops instead of initiating in mutual combat in front of a child. But this bitch doesn't just need slapped. She needs slapped in cuffs and her parental rights seriously questioned in a court of law.



If someone swings on me, whether they hit me or not, I'm swinging back. And I'm legally entitled to. But of course, the laws in between have fucked it all up. So those laws are superseded by local laws that target men instead of the aggressor in these situations. So if it's my wife, according to the law, I have to lay down and take it like a bitch. But if not, I'm legally entitled to defend myself with whatever force it takes to eliminate the threat.

Moral of the story? Don't fucking get married. All bitches be crazy, whether it's themselves, or the force of law behind them (even if they don't want it).


your confusing defending yourself with assault...

defending yourself doesnt mean slapping the shit out of your wife, punching, gut kicking, whatever

defending means you can use restraints such as: stopping a physical attack by means of blocking, by means of seperation, by means of leaving, and certainly by means of evidence.... no one says you need to sit there and allow her to stab you


you just dont need to return violence with violence..
 
Digital crackhead ignores his family's needs and then gets abusive when pushed. Wife of digital crackhead puts up with this unacceptable behaviour and then antagonizes the digital crackhead instead of leaving him.

Kids, this is what we in the trade call a dysfunctional relationship.
 
This is assault on her part. She initiated. There's no fucking way around it. She broke the law, and initiated combat. In front of her child.

I was all set to defend this girl and call this guy a shitbag. But it's the other way around without a doubt now that I've watched it. DON'T HIT PEOPLE AND EXPECT NOT TO GET HIT BACK! How fucking hard is this for modern women to understand?

This dude protected himself from assault. He should have called the cops instead of initiating in mutual combat in front of a child. But this bitch doesn't just need slapped. She needs slapped in cuffs and her parental rights seriously questioned in a court of law.



If someone swings on me, whether they hit me or not, I'm swinging back. And I'm legally entitled to. But of course, the laws for marriage have fucked it all up. So the laws that allow me to defend myself are superseded by local laws that target men instead of the aggressor in these situations. So if it's my wife, according to the law, I have to lay down and take it like a bitch. But if not, I'm legally entitled to defend myself with whatever force it takes to eliminate the threat.

Moral of the story? Don't fucking get married. All bitches be crazy, whether it's themselves, or the force of law behind them (even if they don't want it).


She annoyed him by throwing light shit at him, like empty cardboard. He in turn hit her.

These two are on such completely different levels that they are not equivalent.

This douche is 100% at fault here, and the police did the right thing.

I do tend to fall into the "never hit a woman under any circumstance" camp, but if you are going to do it, they had better be coming at you with a knife or something, and requiring you to defend yourself to avoid serious injuries.

And, as has been mentioned before, you can defend yourself without hitting someone. Disarm them, subdue them, you don't have to, and probably shouldn't come out swinging.

Nothing that she did in this video justified this tool beating her. I hope they throw the book at him.
 
It's very sad, but both are idiots and immature. Both of them did not handle the situation in a good way. You know the relationship is stressing when you see 2 young adults not dealing with the situation like the way they should.
 
your confusing defending yourself with assault...

defending yourself doesnt mean slapping the shit out of your wife, punching, gut kicking, whatever

defending means you can use restraints such as: stopping a physical attack by means of blocking, by means of seperation, by means of leaving, and certainly by means of evidence.... no one says you need to sit there and allow her to stab you


you just dont need to return violence with violence..


Self defense: "the right to prevent suffering force or violence through the use of a sufficient level of counteracting force or violence"

I didn't see any punches or gut kicks, there, bright eyes. I just saw assault and heard some bitch getting some sense slapped into her for it. Stop trying to sway this discussion with bullshit.

Whether or not you find it justified, the letter of the law explains it very clearly. This was assault.

"At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and Tort Law. There is, however, an additional Criminal Law category of assault consisting of an attempted but unsuccessful Battery.

Statutory definitions of assault in the various jurisdictions throughout the United States are not substantially different from the common-law definition."

So not only is it the letter of the law, but it has been for hundreds of years.

She broke the law. He defended himself. Case closed.
 
She annoyed him by throwing light shit at him, like empty cardboard. He in turn hit her.

These two are on such completely different levels that they are not equivalent.

This douche is 100% at fault here, and the police did the right thing.

I do tend to fall into the "never hit a woman under any circumstance" camp, but if you are going to do it, they had better be coming at you with a knife or something, and requiring you to defend yourself to avoid serious injuries.

And, as has been mentioned before, you can defend yourself without hitting someone. Disarm them, subdue them, you don't have to, and probably shouldn't come out swinging.

Nothing that she did in this video justified this tool beating her. I hope they throw the book at him.

No. She threw multiple shit at him, his property, and then attempted to attack him multiple times physically. That's assault. You didn't watch the video. Watch it again. Hell, lets even say you're right. That's the perspective we'll go with. She's still guilty of assault. The law is very clear on that.

And if you hit a women with a knife, you're going to die. Don't bring a fist to a knife fight.

This is "equality" at work. She attacked a man and got attacked for it in return. The cops were simply doing what the law tells them. Without a doubt there was mutual combat in front of a child. SOMEONE was going to jail, no matter what. He took the fall because of his genitals.
 
Self defense: "the right to prevent suffering force or violence through the use of a sufficient level of counteracting force or violence"

I didn't see any punches or gut kicks, there, bright eyes. I just saw assault and heard some bitch getting some sense slapped into her for it. Stop trying to sway this discussion with bullshit.

Whether or not you find it justified, the letter of the law explains it very clearly. This was assault.

"At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and Tort Law. There is, however, an additional Criminal Law category of assault consisting of an attempted but unsuccessful Battery.

Statutory definitions of assault in the various jurisdictions throughout the United States are not substantially different from the common-law definition."

So not only is it the letter of the law, but it has been for hundreds of years.

She broke the law. He defended himself. Case closed.

k....if you ever end up in this situation try and use that to your defense for slapping a pregnant woman for yelling at you or throwing a postit note...let me know how it goes....while your at it...assuming make my day law applies...just go ahead and shoot her. and start claiming that as defense...i expect to hear back your findings on such matters...

somehow you assume that her being upset and throwing something at his computer for being a shitty father and husband can result in you disproportionatly using excessive force such as slapping...and or any other form of physical violence....

as opposed to just being a better man and just seperating your self, exercising proper copong mechanisms, and or just outright calling the police....

mind you if this is how things are, that its ok for that to happen, your teaching the children its ok to happen, and the cycle repeats...its no damn wonder so many women end up with shitheads...and so many shitheads end up being shitheads...
 
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