Google and Facebook Cross "The Creepy Line"

cptnjarhead said:
While i do not use google as my primary search or browser... they do not put a gun to your head and make you use their products. Its still a consumer choice. Not a fan of google... but any time you here the term.. "regulate".. run.. run fast
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I generally agree with that completely.
In this case though, I think some regulation is in order. The amount of privacy and information that people give away when they don't properly understand the potential ramifications of doing so is more than a little dangerous. Combine that with constant data breaches and..well...there's that.

While I would not be in favor of industry-specific/sector-specific/company-specific regulation, I think as has been mentioned in this thread already a set of strict rules on what information is kept at all would be better.
There are already regulations in place for how doctors and financial institutions handle private records. I don't want to see more of that as those regulations are a clusterfuck. Just simple....don't do this shit!... kind of regulations.

I have no expectation of it happening though. The larger our gov't gets the easier it becomes for it to be controlled by corporations and deep pockets.
Until we start putting our gov't on the carnivore diet, we're all fucked.
 
And beginning in the 2016 election, Google is selling that information to the Democratic party for "election profiling". I think they're more interested in getting info on their opponents and using it for political leverage to get what they want.
 
Galvin said:
Far in the future, corps are going to have more power than the govt. But everyone will think the opposite
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This is why I laugh at "small government" proponents - they are basically cutting down the only thing they *can* control. Instead, we need to "right size" government, allowing them to be strong enough to protect against the things we can't defend ourselves from but cutting their power to control our personal lives. Individuals are powerless to fight against global corporations - not even the engineers at places like google and apple are able to defend themselves without government support.
 
Why would the government want to regulate this? Google and Facebook are basically doing the work of the NSA/CIA while making money doing it. A profile of almost all of my citizens, ability to track them.... even the ability to shape their thinking through "news".
 
ThatITGuy said:
Why would the government want to regulate this? Google and Facebook are basically doing the work of the NSA/CIA while making money doing it. A profile of almost all of my citizens, ability to track them.... even the ability to shape their thinking through "news".
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Why do they do anything? Because we make them. That's why it's so important for us to actually control the government, instead of the corporate lobby.
 
Laowai said:
I generally agree with that completely.
In this case though, I think some regulation is in order. The amount of privacy and information that people give away when they don't properly understand the potential ramifications of doing so is more than a little dangerous. Combine that with constant data breaches and..well...there's that.

While I would not be in favor of industry-specific/sector-specific/company-specific regulation, I think as has been mentioned in this thread already a set of strict rules on what information is kept at all would be better.
There are already regulations in place for how doctors and financial institutions handle private records. I don't want to see more of that as those regulations are a clusterfuck. Just simple....don't do this shit!... kind of regulations.

I have no expectation of it happening though. The larger our gov't gets the easier it becomes for it to be controlled by corporations and deep pockets.
Until we start putting our gov't on the carnivore diet, we're all fucked.
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In a perfect world i would be fine with common sense rules ect.... however, when bureaucrats start regulation a free market/private company... i just cringe. Full disclosure in layman's terms of whats tracked, kept.. more user control with easy access to those options... but again, i would rather see competition drive this for the consumer instead of big-brother, but with only 2 companies at the wheel... its not likely
 
This is nothing new, and it is far too late for this generation. The only thing we can try to do is change the way things are handled in the future. Now that I have a child, I really wonder what his life will be like 20-30 years from now. We are headed in a terrible direction with no regards to personal information or privacy. This is a dangerous path on so many levels, and most have done a good job summarizing it in this thread. If we can agree on anything, it seems most people recognize this as an issue.
 
OWNED! ...and all it took was a cell phone, social media and fake news.

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ThatITGuy said:
Wait, you think we control the government?
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No. But that's not because we *couldn't.* By the people, of the people, for the people. Campaign finance and voter rights/process reform would change that. Right now, corporate money and things like gerrymandering at completely distorting the process.
 
I saw the writing on the wall years ago. Haven't used any google product since.

Run.... run fast
 
I like to think I have all of the privacy settings done correctly for all of the social media platforms and other utilities I use in my day to day.

What we need to do as a group here is establish a way to review a persons internet presence then give them the tools to lock it down further via instructions and automation where possible to properly secure their social media and other profiles that exist today.

I truly don't think there is a single individual today that understands fully where all of the potential privacy settings are located in everything they use. This could be a paid service with the understanding that it will continue to grow and change and let subscribers know of new threats to their privacy based on settings they can take immediate action to remedy. You pay differently based on if you need just the curated information, or if you need someone (this service) to actively go in and clean things up for you on all identified services.

Anyone here want to actually try and set up something like that? I'd be glad to participate. Heck even charge a 2 dollar a month subscription to cover costs (something cheap. I just want to be able to send nag emails who's subject line is 'I want my two dollars!').
 
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