Since there is no way this could be abused or compromised and I wholly reject any blame for unintended consequences if I have good intentions, ummmm, sure let's make this mandatory Now!

Also I vote we skip the step where the news runs scare stories every night until my resistence to the idea is broken down, I'm ready now!
 
I wouldn't mind a digital social security card, so that I didn't need this short-arse number and easy to steal, damage, or lose card. You get one card, the card contains a hash of your (large) SSN and creates a sub-hash which can be verified and used once in a 5 minute window to confirm your id with the administration (who has a copy of your current hash). A new hash could be generated if your current one is compromised (and a new card issued only if the old one is lost), without having to change your SSN, and anyone using the old hash (with or without the card) could be arrested on suspicion of identity theft.
Patent pending...

Your purchases can and are already tied to your SSN if you gave it to your credit card company or bank when you signed up (not required for all transactions, but I think some require it by law), so that's not really a concern to me. My concern is the single point of failure and also consolidation of all your purchase information under a single provider, potentially without much thought to mitigation of identity or financial information theft.
 
And of course it's all free, because they'll just collect and share your info and profit off it too!
 
I'm only onboard if I get to use my chocolate starfish like a QR code. This way I get to moon the fuckers tracking me every time I use their stuff.
 
[Sitting across from my Match date; she's looking at her cell phone]

She: "It says here that your personal digital identity is "Thunder Bumhatch" and that you bought Axe Body Spray for the first time two hours ago."
Me: "Well, uhh... "
She: "And you bought Trident Wintergreen gum at the same time."
Me: "I think wintergreen tastes better with coffee."
She: "And you masturbated 20 minutes ago."
Me: "Bitch, you don't go out with a loaded gun. You EMPTY those barrels!"
That's actually a good thing. Better to find out these things beforehand.
 
Pretty obvious they are trying to make it easy for people to migrate including illegal immigrants and false refugees. And lay the groundwork for a pro-corporate trans-nationalist superstate.
 
People rejected internet ID. What makes them think this even more draconian idea will be accepted?
 
People rejected internet ID. What makes them think this even more draconian idea will be accepted?

Because for some reason that bright but fading flicker of independence people seemed to have a few decades ago has faded out. Now most will accept anything so long as it's convenient and they can stare at it on their phone.

Humanity is looking pretty boned right now.
 
Pretty obvious they are trying to make it easy for people to migrate including illegal immigrants and false refugees. And lay the groundwork for a pro-corporate trans-nationalist superstate.
I guess of all the 70's dystopian future movies, the most correct was Rollerball. Let the Bloodsports begin.
 
Its not even a good idea..

Your opinion of course. I think having something that links your stuff together makes sense from a security standpoint. Maybe instead of every single entity having a copy of your data all they do is send a request for authentication on a transaction from your 'identity database' and what they get back is that you are using your card and it is okay. This kind of stuff could become a way of essentially a 2 factor on your entire credentials which would make theft significantly harder.

Would also make the annoying things easier like seperate drivers license, passport, social security card, birth certificate and all these companies needing one or the other which often is not readily available.

The problem as I see is that the companies wanting to do this have a very high chance of half-assing it and instead of making things more secure and safe will create a central point of weakness in all of them.

I don't want this to happen either but at least provide a bit for conversations sake instead of "no" as I am curious what you first thought of when you saw it.
 
6 months later ...
"The US to introduce it's own form of a social score..."

I mean seriously, does the "brain trust" at these companies even listen to what they suggest in meetings? Or are they filled with a bunch of yes men who say that the CEO's (or whomever can fire them that is in charge) is always giving out good ideas.
I'm thinking this would enable them to take it a step further and tie it into a WORLD social score.
 
Sweet, I haven't read about a disaster in the making in a few hours!
 
WOW... could you be anymore condescending?
That's what I got out of reading the article many times over. :)

Hi stupid citizens!

I know that you can't handle passwords so there is zero chance that you can handle your own data. Hell you sign off on giving your data away to Google with every app you install. Would you like Microsoft and Mastercard to handle that for you? We will even share... Um... Interface with governments around the world.

Thank you,
Your Overlords
 
That's what I got out of reading the article many times over. :)

Hi stupid citizens!

I know that you can't handle passwords so there is zero chance that you can handle your own data. Hell you sign off on giving your data away to Google with every app you install. Would you like Microsoft and Mastercard to handle that for you? We will even share... Um... Interface with governments around the world.

Thank you,
Your Overlords

But seriously though, they can't handle even their own passwords and video game accounts. :p
 
Just wait for it to become mandatory and as part of the "maintenance" for the system require you to pay a monthly fee to the corporate overlords for the privilege of being spied on.
 
No doubt this info will be an easy source of amusement for the robots when they take over.
 
People rejected internet ID. What makes them think this even more draconian idea will be accepted?
Corporations have locked down 95% of the internet over a small handful competition devoid members. I mean, there's really one search engine, one payment service, one online store, one online auction house (maybe a second that is more an online classfieds)....
 
At this point they have all the data already, Microsoft has the technical know-how to build the system, Mastercard has access to basically all the data needed to fill it. Anything Mastercard doesn't have directly on file they can request from the various services that have been set up to "protect" your identity over the last 20 years. Once this is up no doubt Visa will chime in shortly after, and I can see India and China wanting in on the action for border security and what ever else they would claim to want it for. If they do this and manage to get it even close to functional I could easily see them able to populate upwards of 3 Billion people in there under the guise of protecting your identity.
 
wont be fun when the government computers get hold of your purchase history and some algorithm flags you up as a terrorist etc. for your random purchases.
 
btw, since they mentioned refugees etc...Soros pretty much gave debit cards to illegal economic migrants to enter Europe.

from Snopes ( which is politically biased and leaves out half of things, unless you know )

"The UNCHR initiative was unrelated to either of two similar separate MasterCard-sponsored aid programs." - well that is not the one with the problem

"The first, a June 2016 partnership between the credit card company, the Serbian Ministry of Labor, and the humanitarian group the Mercy Corps, sought to provide prepaid debit cards to refugees to help meet basic needs:" - Mercy Corps is a SOROS institution. Don't get how any press can just treat everything as independent when it fits them, but them link everything to Putin whenever it is something about Russian-American relations, even when the former's connection is clearly direct

"A separate partnership between MasterCard and Soros to launch a “standalone entity,” Humanity Ventures, was first announced in January 2017. That program sought to provide private sector solutions to social issues such as joblessness, lack of access to healthcare, inadequate education, and financial exclusion among migrants and their host communities:" - tells you everything if you know what is Soros' stance on the migrant crisis in Europe

and of course they create life long users of Mastercard in this programme.
 
Your opinion of course. I think having something that links your stuff together makes sense from a security standpoint. Maybe instead of every single entity having a copy of your data all they do is send a request for authentication on a transaction from your 'identity database' and what they get back is that you are using your card and it is okay. This kind of stuff could become a way of essentially a 2 factor on your entire credentials which would make theft significantly harder.

Would also make the annoying things easier like seperate drivers license, passport, social security card, birth certificate and all these companies needing one or the other which often is not readily available.

The problem as I see is that the companies wanting to do this have a very high chance of half-assing it and instead of making things more secure and safe will create a central point of weakness in all of them.

I don't want this to happen either but at least provide a bit for conversations sake instead of "no" as I am curious what you first thought of when you saw it.

I immediately saw how this will lead to abuse both by companies and nefarious individuals. My credit card company does not know my drivers license number or passport (unless they have purchased that information) for example. There is no legitimate reason for them to have it. I do not wnat to hand over even more information than is strictly necessary for me to do business with a particular company. Having a single "ID" that contains ALL of my PII does not let me limit exposure. It also puts the data in a nice single central location for someone to hack into to get at it or for some idiot to steal it (insider threat).

Which leads me to concern #2: It will be breached. Not if but when. A breach of this ID database would be magnitudes worse than the breaches we have seen today. Now instead of a few pieces of my data getting out in each breach they get it ALL in one fell swoop.

I think the risks far outweigh the benefits here.
 
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