I don't disagree with anyone here, but I will say that this is another future projection - someone in the past created a vision of the future, and that vision is finally becoming reality in the present. When you read what Google is describing, you realize they are envisioning the same kind of 'smart home' that science and science fiction has talked about since the 1950's.

But there's a difference. In all of these imaginings, from Futurama in 1939, Monsanto house, Push Button Manor, and all the science fairs, EXPO's, and all the episodes of The Jetsons, the big difference is that the smart home is part of your family, and the smart home belonged to you. The home was your property, it was an integral part of your private life, and it was bound by the same ideas of confidentiality as your doctor, your priest or your lawyer would be.

Google is not offering new ideas. All they are doing is realizing a bunch of very old ideas. The smart home is something that we've always wanted, and we shouldn't stop wanting it. It's the future, and it could be very cool.


I want a smart house. I want Alexa. But I don't want it to belong to Google or Amazon. Everyone I know keeps some aspect of their private lives private, and we definitely don't want to trust our private lives to Google.


P.S. PeaKr's image of the "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" monkeys (four posts up) is doubly ironic since it looks like there is a camera in the lower left of the image.
 
Could you imagine a HOA, Home Owner's Association that makes everyone install Google Home products to track your pests.

If not your naked ass.


I have to leave this thread now. I can't stop crying. Ha ha ha ha!
 
Our children will curse our names for not destroying corporate amd goverment surveillance.
 
So when is this shit going to result in people bringing out the pitchforks and torching Google/Facebook/Whatever's headquarters?

It's amazing to me that this shit just keeps getting worse and worse, and there is no revolt.



I'm down for revolution!

First did you see last weeks new episode of formulaic comedy #7,528, now with extra 75% political narratives reinforcment?


Man that was great, plus ps5 and iphone eleventy is out soon...... so need to plan any uprisings around that. Also nothing misdemeanor or worse that could affect future promotions at work.

See you at the barricades! If I'm late start without me!
 
I don't disagree with anyone here, but I will say that this is another future projection - someone in the past created a vision of the future, and that vision is finally becoming reality in the present. When you read what Google is describing, you realize they are envisioning the same kind of 'smart home' that science and science fiction has talked about since the 1950's.
Yes, they have, way back in 1949.

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So they're going to watch you bang your wife/gf/whatever and if you don't please her well enough according to the algorithm then you'll see ads for toys i bet.

Toys, drugs, dating services, porn, attire, chemicals, porn, whips, porn... Pretty standard advertising. :D
 
This is not patent worthy stuff. I literally dreamt of all these methods decades ago after ingesting a ridiculous amount of Sci-Fi and cyberpunk. Watching ST:TNG, it was super easy to imagine the user controls you would need to make the ship function around the users the way it does.
 
I dont mind. Im just curious about where humanity/consciouss is going. Im ok with this if it helps bring about superintelligent machines or man-machine hybrids. Would be cool if consciousness sprang forth from Earth and went to colonize space.
 
Half of me, the Cyberpunk dystopia (as a theme) part that loves all this nonsense, doesn't mind this at all. The other half, that loves privacy and meat-pursuits :D and the legacy I was brought up in does not. Maybe I'll be an augmented freedom fighter some day, or maybe I'll move out into the middle of nowhere and isolate myself. :D
 
And your children’s bedrooms. The second patent proposes a smart-home system that would help run the household, using sensors and cameras to restrict kids’ behavior. Parents could program a device to note if it overhears “foul language” from children, scan internet usage for mature or objectionable content, or use “occupancy sensors” to determine if certain areas of the house are accessed while they’re gone— for example, the liquor cabinet. The system could be set to “change a smart lighting system color to red and flash the lights” as a warning to children or even power off lights and devices if they’re grounded.

While people can set goals for their children or themselves, these policies could also be “based upon certain inputs from remote vendors/facilitators/regulators/etc.,” according to the patent. That opens the door for companies to offer rewards for behaviors in the home. A household may set the internal goal of “Spend less time on electronic devices,” or “Use 5 percent less energy each month for the next three months.” Google devices could then connect to anything “smart” in the home and send you, and potentially a vendor or third party, updates on usage and screen time.

This is fucking sick.
 
The future is no longer something we need to worry about much because in the end machines will replace people. There will be no more suffering. Just accelerate computer and ai tech development and it will all be over soon. For all of us. Then we shall have peace at last
 
I read about really stupid technology etc everyday, until they try to force everyone to comply with this type of thing, there will be plenty of people opting out. I am not sure what year people forgot "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should". I would hope that anyone with a brain stands against this type of thing, and makes fun of people that use it, use whatever means of persuasion to defeat them.
 
I read about really stupid technology etc everyday, until they try to force everyone to comply with this type of thing, there will be plenty of people opting out. I am not sure what year people forgot "just because you can do something means you should". I would hope that anyone with a brain stands against this type of thing, and makes fun of people that use it, use whatever means of persuasion to defeat them.

Are you sure you don't want to not opt out of opting out of this opt out clause?
 
Are you sure you don't want to not opt out of opting out of this opt out clause?
Sarcasm aside, I do research and try to best understand what my options are. Confusing people is an age old tactic of the hierarchy, so let me look into it to see what you really mean. :ROFLMAO:
 
Do you carry your smart phone into your house?

I know I'm an outlier but normally no. When I get home I turn off my cell phone and leave it in the garage by my motorcycle. I really don't like phones much but it's good to have in case of a vehicle breakdown.
 
Well at least they haven't made it into the bathroom yet. The throne is still sacred.
True. I think most of us will freedom lovers will have expired before they can make surveillance a regular a thing as paying your taxes. Probably better for us anyway, sad the future won't even understand freedom, it'll be crushed under a boot, 1984 style, if people let it be.
 
Well at least they haven't made it into the bathroom yet. The throne is still sacred.

  • According to one embodiment, to map the various water sources of the home, upon detecting running water, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 sends a message an occupant's mobile device asking if water is currently running or if water has been recently run in the home and, if so, which room and which water-consumption appliance (e.g., sink, shower, toilet, etc.) was the source of the water. This enables the central server or cloud-computing system 64to determine the “signature” or “fingerprint” of each water source in the home. This is sometimes referred to herein as “audio fingerprinting water usage.”

  • [0088]
    In one illustrative example, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 creates a signature for the toilet in the master bathroom, and whenever that toilet is flushed, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 will know that the water usage at that time is associated with that toilet. Thus, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 can track the water usage of that toilet as well as each water-consumption application in the home. This information can be correlated to water bills or smart water meters so as to provide users with a breakdown of their water usage.

  • A tenth people/object data 136 may include textual data 188. The textual data 188 may be obtained via a sensor enabled to perform optical character recognition (OCR) to translate printed or written text into machine-encoded text. Using OCR may enable reading the words printed on any object throughout the home, such as titles of books, movies, video games, magazines, newspapers, and/or brands of food products, toiletries, clothes, cars, and so forth. As previously discussed, the textual data 188 may be used to select certain content 132, such as TV show/movie recommendations,

So your mobile device that you play games on while sitting on the toilet is going to rat you out!
 
  • According to one embodiment, to map the various water sources of the home, upon detecting running water, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 sends a message an occupant's mobile device asking if water is currently running or if water has been recently run in the home and, if so, which room and which water-consumption appliance (e.g., sink, shower, toilet, etc.) was the source of the water. This enables the central server or cloud-computing system 64to determine the “signature” or “fingerprint” of each water source in the home. This is sometimes referred to herein as “audio fingerprinting water usage.”

  • [0088]
    In one illustrative example, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 creates a signature for the toilet in the master bathroom, and whenever that toilet is flushed, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 will know that the water usage at that time is associated with that toilet. Thus, the central server or cloud-computing system 64 can track the water usage of that toilet as well as each water-consumption application in the home. This information can be correlated to water bills or smart water meters so as to provide users with a breakdown of their water usage.

  • A tenth people/object data 136 may include textual data 188. The textual data 188 may be obtained via a sensor enabled to perform optical character recognition (OCR) to translate printed or written text into machine-encoded text. Using OCR may enable reading the words printed on any object throughout the home, such as titles of books, movies, video games, magazines, newspapers, and/or brands of food products, toiletries, clothes, cars, and so forth. As previously discussed, the textual data 188 may be used to select certain content 132, such as TV show/movie recommendations,
Freedom? Founding Fathers? F it, money wins.
 
I'm leaving this epic thread to write more articles. Can't get things done reading the comments. :) :) :)
 
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The system will be able to determine foul language spoken or the entering of restricted areas by children and alert parents of the behavior. It will be able to enforce lights off and ensure that children that are grounded adhere to the rules. The system will also be able to detect the quantity, type, location, description of invasive pests such as bedbugs, termites, roaches, rodents, etc in your home; create an audio and visual signature and fingerprint of your infestation, for the purpose of warning other homeowners of specific problems in the neighborhood. It will also create a signature for the toilet flushing to determine water usage. If a 15 year old male walks into a room carrying a ball and wearing a jersey, the system will suggest a NBA basketball game on TV of the team that the child is wearing. Everything is possible!

Thinking back to when my friend's iPad-obsessed kid sneezed on me, I'm not hating this idea. Fisher-Price IoT shock collars for ages 3 and up, managed by Alexa in autonomous mode.

Warm milk and early to bed for the little shits, our future tomorrow begins today!
 
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Your monkeys have cameras on them!

lol, the camera adds a layer of irony, one reason I chose that pic, that and the PUB, which according to Mike Rowe is where people originally opened up after a few beers to tell it like it really is.

imo no machine will ever be sentient, just fancy scripts that make predictions using unlimited resources. It's weakness is that its programed by humans/ai stuck in the current moment. Consciousness is organic and dynamic, always moving and changing. It communicates with everything using a network and language of its own. Its been around since the beginning and everything in the universe is a node. You may be able to simulate some of it, temporarily, but why would you want to when its already been up and running for billions of years.

Happiness is relative. The people of tomorrow won't be happier than they are today even with starships and light sabers. The grass is always greener, its fun for awhile, then its just you, there, again. I prefer to mow my own lawn, get up and flick on the light switch, at least until I can't anymore.
 
Well at least they haven't made it into the bathroom yet. The throne is still sacred.

Don't be so sure



I actually have a fancy heated toilet seat with bidet and most American's don't know what they are missing. Oh, a fan that handles odors and heats too. Toto - god bless the Japanese.
 
I figured it was done already. I've had ads popup on stuff I verbally speak of.
 
I figured it was done already. I've had ads popup on stuff I verbally speak of.
That's from your smartphone or smart tv. You agreed to it in the terms that no one reads and only lawyers understand. Also see tracking cookies in the browser, etc. It's difficult but there are ways to greatly reduce it, clear your browser cookies with tools like ccleaner, and use an older phone and no smart tv. Except they will find ways around this too,supposedly facebook knows you even if you don't have an account. Have fun!
 
Whew, I think I am safe. I don't own a smartphone . . and oh please excuse me now . . . I have to go clean the outhouse. Track this Google.
 
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