Windows 10 Version 1809 Is Getting a Re-Release Today

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tordogs said:
Current version 1809 OS Build is 17763.134

But a simple question can't have a simple answer with MS:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows-10/release-information

Updated laptop to Version 1809 today and the build number is 17763.107--to be upgraded when the existing bug is fixed in the next patch--MS taking it slow on patches after the recent fiasco.

17763.55 is an earlier 1809 build from 10/9/18
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Ok, so that's what the update was today then, heh.

Thanks for the info and link
 
BloodyIron said:
Are you just deaf to the issues people have had for decades with Windows?

  1. BSODs
  2. Forced Windows updates whenever is convenient for Windows (during gaming?)
  3. Legit versions of Windows deactivating
  4. Windows 7 update ecosystem poisoning thanks to forced Windows 10 upgrading
  5. Windows updates bricking computers
  6. Windows updates deleting users files
  7. Windows updates causing tablets to run like shit (happened to me due to new features)
It goes on and on and on... It's in the news all the time...
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I repeat:
What problem does my PC have?
 
Hagrid said:
Actually they would if it would play all the games. I would dump it in a second.

But likes others have said, it works on all the games.
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Has all the apps too like ms office, Adobe products, the top 3d modeling and painting packages, and a hell of a lot more.
 
NemesisX said:
It broke my dual monitor set up. Only one is working now. I updated by accident though. Need to turn auto update off again.
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unplug the one that works, boot with the one the didn't in its place then reconnect both where they should be. someone else around here had that issue....
 
The USB creation tool is still borked though.

Cmon guys...fix your damn stuff!
 
Factum said:
I repeat:
What problem does my PC have?
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We don't know. Tell us?
If there is no problem with it, good for you. The world does not revolve around you. If your pc is ok, does that mean the whole worlds pc's are all ok to?
 
Does anyone know whether the issues mentioned on this Microsoft page are fixed in the re-release of 1809, so that if I perform a clean installation of LTSC 1809 all these things will already be fixed?:


https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...ider-preview-build-17763/#4IhtZdljfs82VoqB.97

UPDATE 10/30: We have released the Windows 10 October 2018 Update Build 17763.107 (KB4464455) to Windows Insiders in the Slow and Release Preview rings. This Cumulative Update contains the same fixes as Build 17763.104 plus these two additional fixes:

We fixed the issue where dragging (extracting) files from a .zip file in File Explorer to a write-protected location you don’t get a “Do you want to replace these files” prompt and the copy action fails silently.
We fixed an issue causing roaming profiles to not work correctly.
UPDATE 10/16: We have released the Windows 10 October 2018 Update Build 17763.104 (KB4464455) to Windows Insiders in the Slow and Release Preview rings. This Cumulative Update contains the following fixes:

We have fixed the issue where the incorrect details were being shown in Task Manager under the “Processes” tab.
We fixed an issue where in certain cases IME would not work in the first process of a Microsoft Edge user session.
We fixed an issue where in some cases applications would become unresponsive after resuming from Connected Standby.
We fixed several issues causing application compatibility problems with 3rd-party antivirus and virtualization products.
We fixed several issues with driver compatibility.

The build watermark at the lower right-hand corner of the desktop is no longer present in this build. This doesn’t mean we’re done…
We fixed an issue where touching a Flash element in Microsoft Edge with two or more fingers could result in the tab crashing.
We fixed an issue where thumbnails and icons might not be rendered if there were any video files saved to the desktop.
We fixed an issue where certain Bluetooth audio devices wouldn’t play sound in apps that also used the microphone.
We fixed an issue resulting in an unexpectedly increased use of battery recently when using certain apps like OneNote.
We fixed an issue in PowerShell where it wasn’t displaying characters correctly in Japanese.
We fixed an issue resulting in display scaling factors not being applied correctly (so the UI was smaller than expected) when viewing a full screen remote desktop window on a monitor set to certain display scalings.
 
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Everyone loves to hate on Windows. I have been forced to use an iMac at work for 10+ years now and the macOS is no model of perfection either. I will still take my supposedly crappy Windows 10 PC over this iMac all day long.
 
ewb302 said:
Everyone loves to hate on Windows. I have been forced to use an iMac at work for 10+ years now and the macOS is no model of perfection either. I will still take my supposedly crappy Windows 10 PC over this iMac all day long.
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People don't hate on Windows, they criticize the things that are real issues about it. I will take a Windows machine over a Mac because a lot of the stuff I do requires a Windows machine. That doesn't make data disappearing, settings reverting, updates forcing, data being stolen, and much more any less of the true threats and extreme offences that they are.
 
BloodyIron said:
Are you just deaf to the issues people have had for decades with Windows?

  1. BSODs
  2. Forced Windows updates whenever is convenient for Windows (during gaming?)
  3. Legit versions of Windows deactivating
  4. Windows 7 update ecosystem poisoning thanks to forced Windows 10 upgrading
  5. Windows updates bricking computers
  6. Windows updates deleting users files
  7. Windows updates causing tablets to run like shit (happened to me due to new features)
It goes on and on and on... It's in the news all the time...
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  1. Haven't had a BSOD since Vista in the early days when driver support was bad.
  2. I've never had Windows 10 restart on me automatically.
  3. Only when Microsoft has an issue with their activation servers.
  4. Yes, the spurious data collection was added to all versions of Windows that are not EOL. Slow updating in Windows 7 was fixed a while ago.
  5. Not possible to brick a computer with an OS update unless the OS is tied to the hardware like with their own Surface line. The worst that will happen is the OS will not start.
  6. The 1809 update is the first time I know this has happened. Once in 30 years is not indicative of a pattern. Prior to Windows 10 Microsoft always suggested backing up your files before installing a service pack, which is what these biannual "feature" updates basically are.
  7. My Surface Pro 4 runs as well, if not better than the day I bought it.
 
Well my home rigs successfully updated to 1809 last month. At work I had no major glitches but some older desktops are triggering false positives with notifications regarding inability to connect to network drives. Ironically enough they can but something about that update increased the latency just enough to trigger the notification. I'll see if I can install this today or tomorrow. Otherwise, this close to the holiday, I'm in no rush to create complications this week.

Off topic but slightly similar: I'd be interested if this either helps the post Turing NV drivers play nice with Pascal since I've been using 399.24 due to issues with 4xx versions, or NV finally releases newer drivers that finally work with Pascal again. I'm aware of yesterday's but haven't read/heard anything yet.

edit: There are some early reviews showing this update combined with the new NV driver for RTX in Battlefield. Can't wait to see [H]ard's reviews on this.
 
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Delicieuxz said:
People don't hate on Windows, they criticize the things that are real issues about it. I will take a Windows machine over a Mac because a lot of the stuff I do requires a Windows machine. That doesn't make data disappearing, settings reverting, updates forcing, data being stolen, and much more any less of the true threats and extreme offences that they are.
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I agree with you. I am openly critical of a lot of things at my work. Some people think I'm just complaining. But the truth is I'm trying to get things smoothed out.

I guess my point is I haven't come across any particular operating system that was truly excellent in all ways.
 
ewb302 said:
I agree with you. I am openly critical of a lot of things at my work. Some people think I'm just complaining. But the truth is I'm trying to get things smoothed out.

I guess my point is I haven't come across any particular operating system that was truly excellent in all ways.
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I don't think people are expressing they want truly excellent. Windows 7 was far beyond excellent, but it was extremely good. It had quite a few bugs itself, but it is far superior an OS over the crap Microsoft pushes today. Every update is filled with new features while other features remain broken. It seems very little to no testing is ever performed on any variety of machines and the BS of resetting all your default setting every time a major update happens is complete and utter garbage. It truly shows Microsoft has no desire to make this OS any better than it currently is. I too am forced t use WIN 10 at work and I too will take it over iOS any day of the week because it does what I need it to do. It's still a buggy, spy riddled, POS. Period.
 
Lol, the number of games where that's the truth is quickly diminishing thanks to things like DXVK. DirectX 11, 12 and Vuklan games run at equal, or better, frame rates to Windows.

Rizen said:
None of which matters because it's the only good OS for gaming. /shrug
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I'm try to point out that with all this complaining about Windows problems, that it is not the only option. Many people have misconceptions around Linux, and henceforth think it is not a viable option. I am contributing to the topic by showing that Linux is a viable option, and answering any questions/concerns people have about it.

Like, people complain about Apple stuff, so they move to Android or other. This is no different.

GoldenTiger said:
BloodyIron please stop polluting windows threads with your Linux spouting. We know it exists, let it be. No one really cares for desktop Linux, it's true.
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BloodyIron said:
Lol, the number of games where that's the truth is quickly diminishing thanks to things like DXVK. DirectX 11, 12 and Vuklan games run at equal, or better, frame rates to Windows.
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Running games through an additional interpretation layer is never going to be as reliable and fast as just running them in the native environment. There's enough problems in modern games with bugs, I don't want to introduce yet another variable for figuring out why something isn't working. Windows works just fine 99% of the time if you are just installing drivers + playing games, it's just not worth the effort unless you are a Linux fanatic.
 
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+10+update+bricking+computers

Armenius said:
  1. Haven't had a BSOD since Vista in the early days when driver support was bad.
  2. I've never had Windows 10 restart on me automatically.
  3. Only when Microsoft has an issue with their activation servers.
  4. Yes, the spurious data collection was added to all versions of Windows that are not EOL. Slow updating in Windows 7 was fixed a while ago.
  5. Not possible to brick a computer with an OS update unless the OS is tied to the hardware like with their own Surface line. The worst that will happen is the OS will not start.
  6. The 1809 update is the first time I know this has happened. Once in 30 years is not indicative of a pattern. Prior to Windows 10 Microsoft always suggested backing up your files before installing a service pack, which is what these biannual "feature" updates basically are.
  7. My Surface Pro 4 runs as well, if not better than the day I bought it.
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It's provably as fast, or faster. Go look at the demonstrations, all you have to do is look.

Also, for Vulkan games, it is effectively native.

Rizen said:
Running games through an additional interpretation layer is never going to be as reliable and fast as just running them in the native environment. There's enough problems in modern games with bugs, I don't want to introduce yet another variable for figuring out why something isn't working. Windows works just fine 99% of the time if you are just installing drivers + playing games, it's just not worth the effort unless you are a Linux fanatic.
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It is funny how some people hate on at least some versions of windows ( WIN me )
Personally i only joined windows with WIN 98se after holding out on DOS for a long while, i even had WIN me on my machine for a good while too, and to be honest the only problems i had with it back then was right after i personally messed up in regedit.
But i will gladly admit i am old school and not that happy about any form of changes forced upon me, so with the latter versions of windows i have been doing a little hoop jumping to make things look and feel like in the "old" days.
Same also making using a phone a problem for me as i dislike what many makers put on their devises, it surely don't do well for my intrinsic hate towards phones with no wire.

Dont get me wrong the level i like and use windows and android / google over others are very marginal, and i would probably take the plunge on any alternative to either system / brand if i got the chance.
And i do hope that happen soon, cuz to me Microsoft and google had their run and deserve to go to the back burner of history.
 
Look I'm normally one of those guys that feels he rarely has problem with Windows, but I ave had issue with every version of it. I just think I gloss over them thinking they weren't all that bad

So people claiming "I've never had any of these so called issues", well good for you.

On my work laptop EVERY Windows 10 feature release since 1607 has totally hosed my install and I've had to rebuild.
Thats not a joke...all of them
Yet at home, my Desktop hasn't had any issues, or my Surface Pro
So as with anything YMMV
 
katanaD said:
sweet.. let those billable hours roll in
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This. The forum is full of people who know computers. I bet the vast majority of people out there can only use it decently or less. But fix problems with hardware or the OS, they can't do.
I bet 10 has really helped you make some $$?
 
Hagrid said:
I bet 10 has really helped you make some $$?
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personally.. im not a fan of the win10 updating.

professionally.. LOL yes it has helped add billable hours each and every time there is one of the "big" ones. for most clients, the issue is with the downtime they cause. It may have downloaded and installed and is set to reboot.. after hours, but something else happens and they have to reboot.. BAM.. update time

otherwise its lots of little things.. EDGE being made default for lots of things.. including PDF's??, a 2nd or such monitor now not coming back up.. etc but.. its all billable
 
BloodyIron said:
Are you just deaf to the issues people have had for decades with Windows?

  1. BSODs
  2. Forced Windows updates whenever is convenient for Windows (during gaming?)
  3. Legit versions of Windows deactivating
  4. Windows 7 update ecosystem poisoning thanks to forced Windows 10 upgrading
  5. Windows updates bricking computers
  6. Windows updates deleting users files
  7. Windows updates causing tablets to run like shit (happened to me due to new features)
It goes on and on and on... It's in the news all the time...
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You mean unlike Linux's problems
1. Lack of support
2. Lack of drivers
3. Lack of an ecosystem
4. Updates bricking computers

I could go on with this all day, if Linux desktop was a viable alternative in business and enterprise it would have taken off these are market spaces where every dollar counts and FREE is still too expensive.
 
Some MS update last night (patch Tuesday) turned my 2 week old Threadripper machine into a worthless bluescreened pile of unbootable crap overnight. I forgot to turn Windows updates off. I had a 4 day old Acronis backup of my boot drive but Acronis sucks at backing up NVMe drives and restoring them. My unrepairable boot sector install was from the first version of 1809. I'm ordering a second M.2 Samsung Pro drive and using the Samsung software to clone my boot drive to another drive from now on. No more taking 2-3 days to build up my installation from scratch. Screw this!!!!
 
1. https://www.ubuntu.com/support & https://www.redhat.com/en/services/support & https://www.suse.com/support/ & ffs look shit up, there's support forums all over the internet for this
2. Drivers are released for Linux before Windows. Just look at Android phones (LINUX) and AMD/nVidia/intel drivers
3. Lack of ecosystem? lol where do you think Firefox, Chrome, and many more came from? Also, DaVinci Resolve
4. The only example of anything close to a Linux update bricking a computer, was actually repairable, and not as bad as Windows' bricking : https://www.techrepublic.com/articl...tall-the-latest-update-its-bricking-some-pcs/

Lakados said:
You mean unlike Linux's problems
1. Lack of support
2. Lack of drivers
3. Lack of an ecosystem
4. Updates bricking computers

I could go on with this all day, if Linux desktop was a viable alternative in business and enterprise it would have taken off these are market spaces where every dollar counts and FREE is still too expensive.
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BloodyIron said:
1. https://www.ubuntu.com/support & https://www.redhat.com/en/services/support & https://www.suse.com/support/ & ffs look shit up, there's support forums all over the internet for this
2. Drivers are released for Linux before Windows. Just look at Android phones (LINUX) and AMD/nVidia/intel drivers
3. Lack of ecosystem? lol where do you think Firefox, Chrome, and many more came from? Also, DaVinci Resolve
4. The only example of anything close to a Linux update bricking a computer, was actually repairable, and not as bad as Windows' bricking : https://www.techrepublic.com/articl...tall-the-latest-update-its-bricking-some-pcs/
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Oh look, a Windows thread! Now is my chance to tell everyone to switch to Ubuntu! :D Oh, and phones? LOL What does phones have to do with Desktop computers? Carry on, do not let us stop you. (n):confused::oops::eek:
 
Well my new Acer laptop has successfully installed 1809 3 times now and Windows reports that is still on 1803 with no new updates needed.

Can we get a fix to the re-fix please? Thanks.
 
ManofGod said:
Oh look, a Windows thread! Now is my chance to tell everyone to switch to Ubuntu! :D Oh, and phones? LOL What does phones have to do with Desktop computers? Carry on, do not let us stop you. (n):confused::oops::eek:
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I prefer Lubuntu myself. Some nice built in programs that are handy when testing machines that pretty Ubuntu does not have.

No update here for my main win10 laptop. I'm in no hurry to try the other two.
 
BloodyIron said:
1. https://www.ubuntu.com/support & https://www.redhat.com/en/services/support & https://www.suse.com/support/ & ffs look shit up, there's support forums all over the internet for this
2. Drivers are released for Linux before Windows. Just look at Android phones (LINUX) and AMD/nVidia/intel drivers
3. Lack of ecosystem? lol where do you think Firefox, Chrome, and many more came from? Also, DaVinci Resolve
4. The only example of anything close to a Linux update bricking a computer, was actually repairable, and not as bad as Windows' bricking : https://www.techrepublic.com/articl...tall-the-latest-update-its-bricking-some-pcs/
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1 hour spent looking for a solution to a problem equates to ~ 4 hours of lost time and pay. That is almost the cost of a new system so you fail right there. If somebody needs to spend 1 hour researching a solution and 30 minutes implementing it you are already at 3 hours of lost man hours, that person who could have been working is now bothering coworkers slowing them down so you have at least an hour of lost productivity there. Free forum support is anything but free it is lazy.
2. Android, AMD, NVIDIA all have TERRIBLE Linux drivers, they lack many of the basic features found in their windows counterparts and the very forums you linked above highlight that in a huge number of places.
3. A browser is not an eco system, there are no good Linux based Project management suites, no accounting sets, no time management, open/libre office is passable but lacks the basic based business integration tools and features. Linux has done well for mass deployment but still doesn’t have anything close to the control windows has when trying to manage 500+ devices, and the ones that do exist are very expensive.
4. In 20 years of Windows enterprise management I have never had a windows update brick a system, I have had specific KB’s break specific software sets but that once discovered is a very easy fix. Linux suffers from this same issue as well it is universal which is why test deployment systems exist in the first place and why so many Linux/windows servers to this day will serve their entire lifecycle with out a single patch or update. Windows Enterprise & LTSB suites have been amongst the most stable OS’s I have ever managed to the point they are giving me time to look into the only viable Linux based deployment I am yet to come across. ChromeOS.
 
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