AMD R9 280X jump to Nvidia GTX 970?

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Darklen

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Hi all people, here I am asking again for some opinion, this time I have the chance to purchase from a cousing a very gentle and lightly used Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming reall,y really cheap, if you ask, just 90$.

Would it be a noticeable jump in performance in 2018?. IKR lot of you Will say just look for some benchmarks out there, the thing is, everything out there it is actually really old stuff and Little to no comparison against my old R9 280X which im using since launch, I find my actual GPU quite capable of current gaming but im really needing a jump to feel more comfortable with the performance and I think this may be a nice opportunity to achieve that.

Any help Will be appreciated. And beforehand sorry by my english, Thank you.
 
You can find good RX 580 4gb's for $125 which is 980 performance ( GTX 1060 6gb relative performance )


I used to use crossfired R9 270X in one of my builds and they rocked for what they were. Upgraded to one of the $125 RX 580's because of the massive power draw on the 270X ( 360w at the wall )
 
There will be a decent enough uplift: you'd go from 45 FPS to 60 in a lot of titles. depends on what you're willing to spend money on.
 
matt167 said:
You can find good RX 580 4gb's for $125 which is 980 performance ( GTX 1060 6gb relative performance )


I used to use crossfired R9 270X in one of my builds and they rocked for what they were. Upgraded to one of the $125 RX 580's because of the massive power draw on the 270X ( 360w at the wall )
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Where are these unicorn 580's listed?
 
Montu said:
That would be a very nice upgrade for only $90. I'd go for it if I were you.
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thanks..

matt167 said:
You can find good RX 580 4gb's for $125 which is 980 performance ( GTX 1060 6gb relative performance )


I used to use crossfired R9 270X in one of my builds and they rocked for what they were. Upgraded to one of the $125 RX 580's because of the massive power draw on the 270X ( 360w at the wall )
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that's used or new prices? I haven't found anything close to that yet. anyway thanks for the suggestion.

Darkswordz said:
Probably a good 40% improvement, if you have a decent enough CPU to push it.
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it's an i7 3770K currently at 4.5ghz with 16GB 1600mhz memory, playing right now at 1080P, Will it be an issue?.

KazeoHin said:
There will be a decent enough uplift: you'd go from 45 FPS to 60 in a lot of titles. depends on what you're willing to spend money on.
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nice, that's what I wanted to hear. I currently need that kind of push in performance.
 
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The GTX 970 and RX 570 are pretty much even and trade blows depending on the games the last time I checked.
 
legcramp said:
The GTX 970 and RX 570 are pretty much even and trade blows depending on the games the last time I checked.
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So I think I should go then with the cousin's GTX 970.. as I know he don't used too much that machine beyond couple of hours weekly due his work.. thank you..
 
Darklen said:
thanks..



that's used or new prices? I haven't found anything close to that yet. anyway thanks for the suggestion.



it's an i7 3770K currently at 4.5ghz with 16GB 1600mhz memory, playing right now at 1080P, Will it be an issue?.



nice, that's what I wanted to hear. I currently need that kind of push in performance.
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That processor is still very good. Especially if you’re only at 60Hz.
 
legcramp said:
The GTX 970 and RX 570 are pretty much even and trade blows depending on the games the last time I checked.
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Yup they basically are. I realise the Gaming X i linked is a 570 mistakenly. But the Armor i linked for basically same price is a 580.
 
even if the RX 580 maybe about 10% - 15% faster than the GTX 970, let's remember that the G1 Gaming it's one of the highest clocked out the box 900 series, and also should Overclock with no issues to the 1500mhz - 1600mhz to offset the performance difference against the RX 580 and still consuming less power. I have in one of my machines the same G1 Gaming GTX 970 GPU and also have one Gigabyte R9 280X overclocked to 1200mhz and I have to say you should expect a performance bump in the 45% - 50% out of the box and around 60% factoring overclock.. at that price the performance jump is literally unbeatable, the only scenario where I would pick the RX 580 is only in the VRAM deparment vs an 8GB model however I won't even consider the 3.5GB GTX 970 an issue at 1080P you should be fine for at least another generation of GPUs.
 
Skillz said:
What are you gonna do with your 280X?
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keep as back up card.

Araxie said:
even if the RX 580 maybe about 10% - 15% faster than the GTX 970, let's remember that the G1 Gaming it's one of the highest clocked out the box 900 series, and also should Overclock with no issues to the 1500mhz - 1600mhz to offset the performance difference against the RX 580 and still consuming less power. I have in one of my machines the same G1 Gaming GTX 970 GPU and also have one Gigabyte R9 280X overclocked to 1200mhz and I have to say you should expect a performance bump in the 45% - 50% out of the box and around 60% factoring overclock.. at that price the performance jump is literally unbeatable, the only scenario where I would pick the RX 580 is only in the VRAM deparment vs an 8GB model however I won't even consider the 3.5GB GTX 970 an issue at 1080P you should be fine for at least another generation of GPUs.
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Should I be worried by going with a 4GB this year?.. I did notice some issues here and there with the 3GB of my old GPU but honestly thought the extra GB would help to solve those.

Any game (or several if possible) in particular that can be an issue with 4GB only?
 
my roommate has a 970(on a 4790k 4.6g) and doesn't seem to run into any issues with vram, even when games go over like forza 4. he plays most things at 1080p max, some older and less demanding games at 1440p.
 
pendragon1 said:
my roommate has a 970(on a 4790k 4.6g) and doesn't seem to run into any issues with vram, even when games go over like forza 4. he plays most things at 1080p max, some older and less demanding games at 1440p.
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thank you! all settled then.
 
I've actually seen some games use nearly 8GB of VRAM lately with all the bells and whistles on, namely Dishonored 2 and Rise of the Tomb Raider, but I'm not sure whether that's just the game caching all available memory just in case or if it's due to the settings themselves. In any case you'd be unlikely to have that happen as you probably won't use most of the ultra settings that seem to cause it as it would drag down performance in other ways on that card.
 
grumperfish said:
I've actually seen some games use nearly 8GB of VRAM lately with all the bells and whistles on, namely Dishonored 2 and Rise of the Tomb Raider, but I'm not sure whether that's just the game caching all available memory just in case or if it's due to the settings themselves. In any case you'd be unlikely to have that happen as you probably won't use most of the ultra settings that seem to cause it as it would drag down performance in other ways on that card.
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agree. some games may represent an issue, however the card will run out of shader power before vRAM becomes an issue on those games. however the jump in performance will still really noticeable specially at that low price.
 
Yeah it should make a noticeable difference. I went from a 280X, to an AIB 290 (which is roughly equivalent to a 970) and it was a nice performance increase.
 
hi guys a Little update here, regarding the performance findings, first I have to say that calling "impressive" is little and fall short of the performance gains the new GPU (GTX 970) brings over the good old 280x, after reading for couple of days and learning a lot about proper overclock maxwell I have to say, Gigabyte did a fantastic job with the G1 Gaming versión of the GTX 970, the card have a out of the box clock of a flat 1380mhz and without any kind of added voltage it reach easily 1500mhz, adding another +45mV allowed to go to a perfect flat line of 1575mhz and +400mhz memory overclock, according to GPU-Z still just using 90% TDP so I have some more headroom to the extra +42mV left in the voltage slider (it says up to +87mV) and see how high can I OC this thing.

So far beyond the fantastic overclock experience, the performance jump at 1575mhz not only allowed for a huge performance jump in Deus Ex mankind divided, decided to test with that game as a worse case scenario known it heavy favor AMD, not only was I able to increase settings to from high to very high shadows, ambient occlusion and level of detail, but also turn on contact hardening shadows, screen space reflections, tesselation and cloth physics while also jumping from a 45FPS - 55FPS to a huge 60 - 70FPS, with some indoors beyond the 80FPS so a perfect 60FPS Vsync'd experience (So far, need to do some more testing in other places). 4GB doesn't seems to be a problem even when I saw several times up to 4052mb usage in this game or few other as assassins creed unity and syndicate.

overall major than expected upgrade and experience

lot of thanks to all involved in this thread, learned a lot the last few days about things that used to ignore.

Extra: some screenshots on the most intensive spots yet..

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good stuff! you could prob ebay the 280x and make money or at least break even.
 
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