Tesla Announces $45,000 Model 3 with 260 Mile Range

Nobu said:
I get about 19mpg, have to fuel up at least once every other week driving 30mi round trip (~300 for two weeks) to work at 65-70mph (well, about 5-10mi of that is 35-40mph). I'm absolutely certain I'd double my gas mileage. lol
Edit: oh, you probably meant over a new non-hybrid. Yeah, it might not be much better, but I do drive around the back-roads some times so it'd be nice for that.
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My commute is only 6.5 miles each way, but it's 100% busy surface streets, during rush hour, with long red lights.
My previous car (2002 Camry 4 cyl) averaged 18 MPG.
My current car (2013 Camry Hybrid) averages 35 MPG, so almost twice the mileage.

The reason I only get 35 MPG is due to the short commute.
It takes at least 2 miles for the car to warm up before it starts operating in full hybrid mode.
If my commute was twice as far, I'd easily be getting 40 MPG.
 
dgz said:
I've grown to really hate regular cars. To the extend that I am not even legally allowed to operate one. The hate towards the way they sound and smell I've developed as an adult. The way they operate got me immediately, though. Hey fathero, there's an extra pedal here, and its function is making this otherwise simple operation very confusing to me. So I never got into driving. I'd totally get a license if I were to buy an electric car.

But I'd be interested in a small and cheap electric car. 50k is way too much. Even twice that would be pushing it for what I am thinking.
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Are you having a stroke?
 
Krenum said:
Yeah...Just like Harley Davidson & Craftsman. How the mighty have fallen.
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I don't know if you are being tongue in cheek or not as I don't know the specifics on either of those brands as neither of them are relevant to my life (Even as a mechanic). But it'd hardly be surprising or unexpected.
 
Vercinaigh said:
I don't know if you are being tongue in cheek or not as I don't know the specifics on either of those brands as neither of them are relevant to my life (Even as a mechanic). But it'd hardly be surprising or unexpected.
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Both brands used to be produced in America, Harley is still built here but the parts are manufactured in China / Taiwan, Snap On too.
 
travisty said:
But the CoG is higher in all other rwd sedans
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Which only matters for high speed cornering. And for the difference between ICE sedans and electric sedans, suspension design would play a far bigger role than CoG.
 
nutzo said:
If you mainly do city driving, you could get almost twice the mileage with a hybrid.
If you mainly drive on open highways/freeways, then your mileage won't be much better, and it's probably not worth the extra costs.

I do like the extra punch (especially on the low end) I get with my Camry Hybrid.
Quicker off the line, almost 2x the mileage, plus a 600 mile range even with city driving.
The newer models get even better mileage due to the switch to direct injection on the ice.

However, if I had to replace the Camry today, I don't think I'd buy a new Camry due to Toyota's design decisions.
Every Camry except for the most basic model comes with a sunroof. I'm tall and it reduces the headroom too much. One of the reasons I bought my current Camry Hybrid was because I could get it without the sunroof, but still get all the other options I wanted.
Then there's the non-power seats unless you buy a model with fake leather, and the too-low profile (45) tires. Lower mileage, stiffer ride and more expensive to replace.
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Yeah, that's the trend of sporty looking cars which unfortunately or fortunately extended to all model lineups. Regarding Tesla, I'm not a fan of their design and they don't feel like luxury cars which you'd expect given price tag. Price is way too high for most people and the whole charging thing make it a dumb choice if you drive outside your city (this is the case with all EV though). Touchscreen and electronic everything isn't the greatest idea either in practice despite looking cool. IMO a modern hybrid is a much better choice for an all around car unless you can afford to have multiple for driving to work and to travel around in. However in this case, you are unlikely getting an EV to save on gas and maintenance.
 
I'll stick with my 2017 Focus RS, thanks. I paid $50k CAD for it, and it feels like I got my money's worth and more.

The thing I immediately noticed in my boss' P100D - the materials quality is bargain basement. That car wasn't worth the $175k CAD she paid for it. The interior of the car looks fancy, but feels incredibly cheap and the Model 3 interior looks even cheaper than that.

A Model 3 Performance is $100K in Canada. That's bloody outrageous for a car with known manufacturing issues, constant rolling changes on the assembly lines, and a drug smoking, government agency taunting CEO:

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