Surge protector/UPS questions and recommendations.

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FlamingTP01

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So, Got a monster build on the way

1300w PSU
gonna grab one of those 4k HDR monitors and a second display for random garbage.

Got a ten outlet surge protector that says its only good for 1800 watts. Specifically a GE ultrapro 2880 joule model. says voltage protection is 330 L-N or 400 N-G (dont know what that means)

will this do the job? if not I can use it for the TV and media devices and get a beefy one for my computer.

Also, should I get a UPS? if so what should I look for?
 
Dont know much about electrical engineering, but what I've read says 15 amp wall sockets are only good for 1800 watts. This doesn't make sense considering I've probably exceeded that on multiple occasions. The computer and the monitors by themselves might hit that mark, let alone any tablets or a laptop. There's also the lights hooked to the circuit to consider. Am I missing something here?
 
the voltage thing is grounded vs non-grounded devices connected. if you exceeded 1800w on a 15amp breaker it would have tripped. so that may be the max combined but not the max used. also your 1300w, is that actual usage or max? the bar you have now will work to power it but if you want a UPS get a high va rated one, like 2500+. tally up the wattage of the devices you'd want connected and battery powered then follow this: 1.6 * Wattage Load = Minimum Volt-Amperes (VA)
 
pendragon1 said:
the voltage thing is grounded vs non-grounded devices connected. if you exceeded 1800w on a 15amp breaker it would have tripped. so that may be the max combined but not the max used. also your 1300w, is that actual usage or max? the bar you have now will work to power it but if you want a UPS get a high va rated one, like 2500+. tally up the wattage of the devices you'd want connected and battery powered then follow this: 1.6 * Wattage Load = Minimum Volt-Amperes (VA)
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Well I'm going to be running a 9900k with two 2080s. the coolermaster calculator with my planned build says I will hit 1000w. after that I have the monitors to consider, two of them, and some speakers, or at least a volume dongle for my headphones.

I have good power where I live so a UPS probably isn't necessary. I just thought it might add another layer of surge security for my setup. Not sure if that's true though.
 
FlamingTP01 said:
Well I'm going to be running a 9900k with two 2080s. the coolermaster calculator with my planned build says I will hit 1000w. after that I have the monitors to consider, two of them, and some speakers, or at least a volume dongle for my headphones.

I have good power where I live so a UPS probably isn't necessary. I just thought it might add another layer of surge security for my setup. Not sure if that's true though.
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the 1000w recommended is being safe I think. kyles review of the 9900k show it pull like 160w. so add 500w for your gpus and another 100 for overhead. so realistically it will pull ~800 under full load. still stick with the 1000w for the extra overhead. your call if you want a ups.
 
FlamingTP01 said:
says voltage protection is 330 L-N or 400 N-G (dont know what that means)
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330V between Live & Neutral, and 400V between Neutral & Ground.

Also, should I get a UPS? if so what should I look for?
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Probably not worth it, because you're not worried about outages. You'd need a $$ UPS for useful runtime at those loads.

FlamingTP01 said:
Dont know much about electrical engineering, but what I've read says 15 amp wall sockets are only good for 1800 watts. This doesn't make sense considering I've probably exceeded that on multiple occasions. <snip> Am I missing something here?
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Yes, time. Breakers don't open the moment you exceed their rating. During overload, the breaker heats up over some seconds, THEN it opens.

Ever notice that, for example, 120V shop vacs are often rated for 5+HP? Same thing. They can make that power for a REALLY short time, but ~2HP is the long-term limit from the outlet.
 
FlamingTP01 said:
Dont know much about electrical engineering, but what I've read says 15 amp wall sockets are only good for 1800 watts. This doesn't make sense considering I've probably exceeded that on multiple occasions. The computer and the monitors by themselves might hit that mark, let alone any tablets or a laptop. There's also the lights hooked to the circuit to consider. Am I missing something here?
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there are multiple breakers in a house arranged by different rooms and separated each other of roof lights and wall outlets and Air conditioner tipically have their own breakers when they are above 24000BTU and/or House Integral..

At 120V 15A rated wire and breaker will trip at 1800W load and heat.. 240V 15A rated wire and breaker will trip at 3600W and heat.. You won't likely reach that amount of wattage in a single room of your house in the same wall outlet with a single machine even with the most power hungry one, so you should be fine in any regard unless there's serious issue with the home wire or breakers panel
 
Araxie said:
there are multiple breakers in a house arranged by different rooms and separated each other of roof lights and wall outlets and Air conditioner tipically have their own breakers when they are above 24000BTU and/or House Integral..

At 120V 15A rated wire and breaker will trip at 1800W load and heat.. 240V 15A rated wire and breaker will trip at 3600W and heat.. You won't likely reach that amount of wattage in a single room of your house in the same wall outlet with a single machine even with the most power hungry one, so you should be fine in any regard unless there's serious issue with the home wire or breakers panel
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Is there a way to determine if my lines are 120 or 240v?
 
FlamingTP01 said:
So, Got a monster build on the way

1300w PSU
gonna grab one of those 4k HDR monitors and a second display for random garbage.

Got a ten outlet surge protector that says its only good for 1800 watts. Specifically a GE ultrapro 2880 joule model. says voltage protection is 330 L-N or 400 N-G (dont know what that means)

will this do the job? if not I can use it for the TV and media devices and get a beefy one for my computer.

Also, should I get a UPS? if so what should I look for?
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I just got me a Lindy 6 plug power conditioner. It has a screened power cable. Surge protected to 6000amps, but my home breaker system will go before this will. And other stuff that isn’t listed on its website. Alot of people are saying that this thing helps with tv picture and audio devices, helps reduce rfi and other shit.

They are meant to be excellent.

https://www.lindy.co.uk/cables-adap.../6-way-av-mains-conditioner-power-strip-p8835

And I can say that so far, this baby does what it says it can do. I don’t know if they make us ones ?
 
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