Tesla Fans Are Begging Elon Musk to Stop Tweeting

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While some would argue Tesla got off lightly in regard to misleading investors, Elon Musk isn’t done testing the Securities and Exchange Commission via Twitter. On Thursday, Musk mocked the SEC by calling them the “Shortseller Enrichment Commission,” which led to Tesla’s shares ending 7% lower the following day. Both fans and shareholders are now “begging” him to stay away from social media.

Tesla stock ended down 1.1% for the week as the last four sessions of losses erased a 17% advance on Monday, the first day of trading after Musk and regulators reached an agreement to end SEC charges that he misled investors when he tweeted he had “funding secured” to take Tesla private. As part of the agreement, Tesla will impose controls to oversee Musk’s social-media communications, but it was unclear Friday when Tesla intends to step in.
 
maxius said:
such a double standard a government employee can tweet from the hip but when a billionaire ceo does oh lordy lordy its an issue
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First of all Government employees are absolutely not tech billionaire visionaries. Lets get crystal clear on that right now.

The man just lost his seat at his own company. What further damage could he do to himself and his company? What if he puts himself in a position where he has zero say in any of his companies? It happens everyday with business owners. And many times, the owner is the brand. Meaning, the company could fail.

Now, lets say you're a Tesla owner and that the visionary owner ( Elon Musk ) who is behind Tesla, Space-X, The Boring Company, whatever else he has in the pot not to mention all of his other past successes.

Look, it's cool he is outrageous a bit, a PC Gamer, gets high, makes flame throwers, etc etc ... BUT ..... he really does need to shut the fuck up on some issues and behave correctly on important situations. That goes for anyone.

That's what these fans are saying. They are saying, STFU and he needs to.
 
I found the media used to love him until he came out in support of tariffs etc a while back. After that they were slinging mud at him to see what would stick. Of course it only gives them ammunition if you’re going to livestream yourself getting stoned.
 
maxius said:
such a double standard a government employee can tweet from the hip but when a billionaire ceo does oh lordy lordy its an issue
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An employee doesn't have access to any information that might be relevant to investors, therefore they can tweet whatever they want. A CEO however (or at least a serious one) knows all the projects and he's in charge of the organization 24/7, he is the face of the organization.

Taking the person with the highest status in a given subject seriously is not double standard, it's just common sense...
 
maxius said:
such a double standard a government employee can tweet from the hip but when a billionaire ceo does oh lordy lordy its an issue
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Good point. It's against Twitter terms of use to incite violence, but I saw some harsh words regarding war with North Korea not long ago. lol
 
zehoo said:
Of course it only gives them ammunition if you’re going to livestream yourself getting stoned.
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If that's your description of it, then you either didn't see the video (at least more than a few seconds), or you are also one of those who throw mud in case it sticks. He was clearly anti-weed smoking.

That said, I wouldn't mind if he held off from his Twitter a bit and concentrate on getting us to the Moon or Mars ;)
 
I rather enjoy reading his ramblings. If he was replaced Tesla would be out of business within 5 years. His attitude and product resonate with me even though I might not agree with what he is saying all of the time. He has me interested in how electric cars work and I haven't given a darn about a car since I was a teen. As long as it goes from A to B and doesn't breakdown then it is the greatest car of all time. Since I've been following him and his enthusiasm, I've been watching videos of people retrofitting Tesla parts into old cars, watching guys dismantle their Tesla cars, etc. I couldn't tell you how many horsepower a Corvette has before I saw some kid on YouTube drag racing his Tesla against other cars.

As long as Elon isn't peddling snake oil in his tweets, he is fine with me.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Look, it's cool he is outrageous a bit, a PC Gamer, gets high, makes flame throwers, etc etc ... BUT ..... he really does need to shut the fuck up on some issues and behave correctly on important situations. That goes for anyone.
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Obviously, the people making these comments are Not American; Fuck being normal, that' s not our way.

There are a lot of people who hate Elon because he's successful, and has made our entire space program look like unproductive Douchebags, but that's the way it is.

He didn't make that, but he has to deal with it.

If Boeing wants to do better, and make more money, ACTUALLY Do something; don't tear down others.

Call him what you want, but he did as much in 10 years as NASA in the 60's; how's that going since Nixon cancelled all the good shit?

We could have already Had a base on the moon; it was planned. Look it up.
 
Dead Parrot said:
Musk isn't the only CEO that could have benefited from a 15 minute delay between brain activity and communications happening. Papa John could have used a sanity check delay circuit. And yes, I think POTUS could use one as well.
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I think the entire population needs to make sure they pause before they publish their thoughts, if you're in a position of power and your tweets can cost people their livlihoods it might even be a good idea to get a second opinion.
 
Anyone complaining that he’s costing people their livelihood with his tweets have a simple option, sell your shares or change jobs. It would be great if the world actually invested in sustainable, achievable projects now and then rather than just whatever is the “in thing” (here’s looking at you, Tesla, Bitcoin, cloud). At the end of the day you’re making money off a hooting lunatic, don’t complain when you lose it all off the same thing.
 
Those events make total sense when the man in charge in this country keeps posting worse thing...
And please, don't tell me that those tweets didn't affect the stock market...

Also, maybe we should go after Bezos for saying he gave his employee more money ?
Let's also go after bloomberg for the SM fiasco ?

Examples are everywhere, I just wonder why Musk was charged while virtually every other entity does that ? Yeah maybe the actual actions wasn't smoking weed live, but still, they all do/say things that affects their stock price.

Anyway, precedent as been set. A tweet can cost millions.
 
MMitch said:
Those events make total sense when the man in charge in this country keeps posting worse thing...
And please, don't tell me that those tweets didn't affect the stock market...

Also, maybe we should go after Bezos for saying he gave his employee more money ?
Let's also go after bloomberg for the SM fiasco ?

Examples are everywhere, I just wonder why Musk was charged while virtually every other entity does that ? Yeah maybe the actual actions wasn't smoking weed live, but still, they all do/say things that affects their stock price.

Anyway, precedent as been set. A tweet can cost millions.
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As I understand it, in the case of a company buyout, there's some very specific rules which companies have to follow for announcing them. Announcing you've got one in the bag when you don't, apparently, breaks those rules.

Offhand, I can't think of a single entity who falsely announced a buyout deal (via twitter or otherwise) and I suspect that companies have teams of lawyers making sure press announcements about such deals are encased in all the appropriate weasel words to prevent legal problems.
 
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I think he should keep saying whatever he wants. seems only lefty cry babies are concerned with what hes sayin and the board that is afraid to stand up to them.
oh and he doesn't get high, said so on rogan.
and trumps tweets are fine to most sane people.
 
emphy said:
As I understand it, in the case of a company buyout, there's some very specific rules which companies have to follow for announcing them. Announcing you've got one in the bag when you don't, apparently, breaks those rules.

Offhand, I can't think of a single entity who falsely announced a buyout deal (via twitter or otherwise) and I suspect that companies have teams of lawyers making sure press announcements about such deals are encased in all the appropriate weasel words to prevent legal problems.
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Which is why part of me feels like he did this intentionally. Usually positions of power come with certain stipulations, and violating those stipulations nullifies the contract, which in some cases can be liberating. My guess is Musk wants to focus more on SpaceX and mars, and wants less to do with going "lolgreen" with Tesla for a planet of full of people that don't know what it is they want. If his life goal is to die on Mars, then he's probably only got another 20-30 good years left in him natural causes can come claim him at any moment.

Publicity is publicity. Donald Trump didn't become President of the US because we liked him. He was a household name before the campaign, and seemed like less of a douche bag than Hillary. Hell, I think Bernie Madoff or Satan himself would have won had they been running against Hillary...
 
Oh yeah all those (((genuine))) twitter users, bit like the 99% Hillary voter stunt everyone forgot about eh?
This day and age it's very easy to create online consensus with a few hundred VPN/machine profiles and a competent company.
 
pendragon1 said:
I think he should keep saying whatever he wants. seems only lefty cry babies are concerned with what hes sayin and the board that is afraid to stand up to them.
oh and he doesn't get high, said so on rogan.
and trumps tweets are fine to most sane people.
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This post hurts my brain. He got high on Rogan. POTUS tweets extremely inflamaritory things that only his most extreme supporters aren't appalled by or roll their eyes at (the latter because he is making them much wealthier at the cost of his base) and it's the right who are going after musk... hes extremely liberal. Its confusing to read your post at best and a bad trolling attempt at worst.
 
haste. said:
This post hurts my brain. He got high on Rogan. POTUS tweets extremely inflamaritory things that only his most extreme supporters aren't appalled by or roll their eyes at (the latter because he is making them much wealthier at the cost of his base) and it's the right who are going after musk... hes extremely liberal. Its confusing to read your post at best and a bad trolling attempt at worst.
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no he didn't. do you know anything about smoking weed? bet not. he only pulled on it like a cigar, no inhale = not high. re trumps tweets; lots see a prob, lots dont. I dont see a problem. did you reeeeeeee about how he talked about ford? I know musk is liberal, I said lefty cry babies, not liberals. maybe try reading it again!?
 
pendragon1 said:
I think he should keep saying whatever he wants. seems only lefty cry babies are concerned with what hes sayin and the board that is afraid to stand up to them.
oh and he doesn't get high, said so on rogan.
and trumps tweets are fine to most sane people.
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No, he shouldn't say whatever he wants. Twitter is no different than shouting into a large crowd. As the head of a company, you keep you fucking mouth shut on matters that effect the company's stock. Not only did Musk not have a plan when he announced that he wanted to take Tesla private, but he didn't even have anywhere remotely close to the capital lined up to make it happen.

Musk's bluntness can be refreshing at times, but he needs to learn when to take a couple minutes to evaluate what he is saying and what effect it will have on him and the companies he is part of. He's probably going to end up paying that diver guy a few million for the pedophile claims, unless he actually has proof that it wasn't defamation. Now he's running his mouth at the SEC, which is a really damn stupid thing to do right after they agreed to a settlement.

Actions have consequences. People need to learn that and stop pretending they're invisible and that social media is their own private playground where they can say and do whatever they want without repercussion.
 
Derangel said:
No, he shouldn't say whatever he wants. Twitter is no different than shouting into a large crowd. As the head of a company, you keep you fucking mouth shut on matters that effect the company's stock. Not only did Musk not have a plan when he announced that he wanted to take Tesla private, but he didn't even have anywhere remotely close to the capital lined up to make it happen.

Musk's bluntness can be refreshing at times, but he needs to learn when to take a couple minutes to evaluate what he is saying and what effect it will have on him and the companies he is part of. He's probably going to end up paying that diver guy a few million for the pedophile claims, unless he actually has proof that it wasn't defamation. Now he's running his mouth at the SEC, which is a really damn stupid thing to do right after they agreed to a settlement.

Actions have consequences. People need to learn that and stop pretending they're invisible and that social media is their own private playground where they can say and do whatever they want without repercussion.
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never said he shouldn't face any potential consequences. I just think he should be able to say whatever he wants. should he think first before he hits post, sure but I dont agree with wanting to silence him.
 
They are after him because of when he asked "Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello."
 
I know he takes ambien and making horrible decisions with the send button is a hallmark of ambien as well.

The real question is, while it may be an urban legend, haven't fact checked it, but if people are getting off with pretty heinous crimes with the defense of being on ambien, why can't Musk?
 
wardener said:
They are after him because of when he asked "Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello."
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I mean he's not wrong, but I think it's probably not worth wasting time on, let the products speak to the buyers rather than giving sensational hit pieces more exposure. Maybe try to promote the positives whenever possible, for example the safety results:

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/0...er-tested-by-nhtsa-how-did-tesla-pull-it-off/
...it does list the probability for the top 50 cars. Most fall between a 7% and an 8% chance of injury. Three unnamed non-Tesla cars are slightly below 7%, while the Tesla Model X and Model S are just over 6%. The Tesla Model 3 stands alone with a below 6% chance of serious injury...
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I'm sure it takes its toll on a passionate CEO that isn't just aiming for a golden parachute for once, but thicker skin is important, especially for an underdog startup. Backup PR expert would not hurt either.
 
He is involved in many high risk businesses. Courting controversy is not in his, or his businesses interest. I'd like to see him STFU and focus on his impressive work instead.

I used to have a lot of respect for the man, but lately it seems like he has completely lost it.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
He is involved in many high risk businesses. Courting controversy is not in his, or his businesses interest. I'd like to see him STFU and focus on his impressive work instead.

I used to have a lot of respect for the man, but lately it seems like he has completely lost it.
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I don't think the man changed, he was always the crazy dreamer, but the media spin sure did.

Imagine if they were to cover that incident from few years ago where a bitchy buyer had his order cancelled for being a dick. Back then people and media laughed it off as "the guy was a total jerk and deserved it" but today the media would probably spin it as "Tesla once again showing it doesn't understand business, attacking its own customers" or something of that nature. Do not underestimate the power of messaging when molding people's opinions through media coverage, it's a well studied art.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/26/perspective-yo/
The thing is, it’s often not about false facts. The problem is often that perspective is dramatically out of whack in major media outlets when it comes to Tesla, EVs, and cleantech in general. The other thing is that messaging is extremely influential but seldom considered by journalists, who have a tendency to fool themselves into thinking they are being objective. Messaging is about much more than getting facts right. Messaging is a very special professional activity. Often, it is about identifying a couple of key concepts and drilling them into people’s heads as often, potently, and simply as possible. Sprite’s messaging is about refreshment. Nike’s messaging is about motivation. Obama’s messaging was (and still is) centered around hope.
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Messaging doesn’t mean explaining — in fact, it’s largely the opposite. It’s about giving you a very simple concept and repeating it enough times that you assume it’s true even if you haven’t dug into the fundamentals and adequately evaluated the claim. The problem I have is that much of the media seems to be in the business of messaging even though they don’t acknowledge it or even understand it. More importantly, they are often in the business of messaging things that are misleading and counterproductive to society.
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What I'm saying is the guy needs to watch his back now, it's more profitable for media to spin negative news rather than positive at this phase, there's no Tesla ad revenue to risk and the target has been raised on a pedestal as the underdog and now it's time to cash in, bring it down for the clicks, people eat up that kinda drama.

So time to be on your guard and not fall for the game.
 
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Stocks down 7.2% because of tweet or stocks down 7.2% because almost the whole market took a dump last week and Monday. You decide!
 
Clovis559 said:
Stocks down 7.2% because of tweet or stocks down 7.2% because almost the whole market took a dump last week and Monday. You decide!
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The whole tech market is down at the moment to be fair, some fears over trade wars and whatnot. The tweets are probably not the only issue, China's putting %60 Tariff on Tesla right now.
 
I'm mildly torn on this issue. Part of me would like to see people move on from getting outraged over a single tweet or couple of tweets in general. Way too much is made out of 140 or 280 characters. Also, People has a whole should go back to a more relaxed stance of letting people say something dumb or silly and move on or at a minimum ask for the person to expand\explain their comment. basically, I want to see an end to the twitter outrage mobs.

With that said, in the case of business, clearly Owners\CEOs need to adhere to the laws in regards to business communications.

In the exact case of Musk, he strikes me as a super smart guy, who gets amused by quirky things (like flame throwers) and operates at a different level. People want him and his products to do well and change the world and so I understand why they are worried he'll do and say things that might hurt the brand. But don't expect him to behave like standard CEO\Owner type. If you are worried about volatility , Musk\Telsa aren't for you
 
No please dont stop, when he and other Celebs make idiot posts it is the only times i hear or see anything from sites like that, and to be honest some times the stupid are at a level that almost make me want to join up said services.

It is like watching Russian dashcam compilations, you think after a while that you have seen it all, but then some idiot throw a curb ball at you.
 
Nobody should post anything on social media, in fact. Not with their real identity. It's pure madness.
 
If you want to keep control and freedom of your company. Don't go public!
If you're public then you need to watch what you say and do.
 
haste. said:
This post hurts my brain. He got high on Rogan. POTUS tweets extremely inflamaritory things that only his most extreme supporters aren't appalled by or roll their eyes at (the latter because he is making them much wealthier at the cost of his base) and it's the right who are going after musk... hes extremely liberal. Its confusing to read your post at best and a bad trolling attempt at worst.
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Trump says outrageous things so the folks with feinting couches will repeat it and amplify it for him. All the media outlets know this, but they can't help themselves.
 
maxius said:
such a double standard a government employee can tweet from the hip but when a billionaire ceo does oh lordy lordy its an issue
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If I've learned one thing from Nixon, it's "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal". I'll go sit in the corner now.
 
Reminds me of Whitehouse staff wanting to take Trump's phone away. :p
 
jpm100 said:
feinting couches
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Assuming that's a typo, I understand what you are implying. But the man has said extremely off the rails things for decades, and the supporters seem to act like this is all trolling. It's not and if you don't realize that then you support it - fairly simple. The US is a freaking joke, and if Brexit is overturned it will make us look even more foolish. Driving far extremes to pass legislation to make yourself and those who are around you (and wish to be a part of that club) much richer is not a great thing... To attack the size of my penis is basically the same. Pathetic. And with that response I assume you are in the group getting gas-lighted. I'm making a killing right now, but I worry much more about the long term effects of such policy.
 
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