RTX2080 and RTX2080Ti Reviews online

I wasn't planning on purchasing a FE anyways. By the time the normal priced cards are out hopefully the RTX stuff will be used.
 
Does anyone know if there's benchmarks up with V-Ray running around? I've looked over all the reviews and come up empty so far.
 
If this is any indication, it doesn't bode well for the RTX2080 and even worse for the RTX1070 on ray traced games.

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Wow. Kinda panned by HardwareCanucks. Panned by JayzTwoCents. Panned by Hardware Unboxed. Ultra panned by Gamers Nexus and Linus Tech Tips. Feeling pretty proud of these Youtubers today - they've shown some spine.

The conclusion is pretty easy - and foreseeable if you had half a brain cell: wait for 7nm for real benefits, actual AMD competition with Navi and thus sane prices.
 
Chimpee said:
Ouch for the 2080, surprise 2080Ti perform this well on 4k.
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It's 47 max frames, thats pretty bad but it shows Ray Tracing will likely be worthless on anything except a Ti and even then your going have to accept 1440p or less to really use it.
 
Gideon said:
It's 47 max frames, thats pretty bad but it shows Ray Tracing will likely be worthless on anything except a Ti and even then your going have to accept 1440p or less to really use it.
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Ahh my bad, didn't read it was max framerate, was assuming avg framerate, useless graph if I don't know avg framerate.
 
heatlesssun said:
I don't like the pricing of the RTXs anymore than anyone else. But after 18 months with the 1080 Tis I had the money for an upgrade and the 2080 Ti at 4k is great. I would expect great VR performance as well. But I certainly get folks staying away from these cards and indeed I get the lack of "value" here especially with RTX tech MIA.
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So... you wouldn't be needing that 1080 Ti anymore, right? ;)
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Fun facts.

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Well, I can understand why they added the ray tracing stuff instead of more CUDA cores. They already have the fattest GPU, so there's little incentive to make one much faster, and just like Tessellation they had to start somewhere for developers to start shopping the new tech.

I don't like it, but I can understand it. Their pricing, on the other hand...
 
Chimpee said:
That is bad for 4k, but better than I expected. At least it looks like it will be usable at 1440p.
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Yep, I'm hoping my 21:9 3440X1440 UW will have playable FPS with RT after seeing that.
 
Montu said:
Yep, I'm hoping my 21:9 3440X1440 UW will have playable FPS with RT after seeing that.
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I have the same res. 35 fps at 4k should be around 55 on 3440x1440 which for me is fine.

I write off such features as niceties. I would likely enjoy RT a lot but I don’t factor it into a purchase.

You know I’d drop $1200 in a heart beat if this chip was all cuda cores. ~35% improvement, which is great considering, is a tough buy by itself. I don’t know what they were thinking launching this without RTX at all. I hoped at least for DLSS.
 
looking at reviews my takeaway is that the Founders Edition cards look really sexy from a visual standpoint...really good looking cards...the addition of the USB-C port is also interesting...love that Nvidia now has dedicated floating point and integer units to go along with the new tensor cores...as far as performance it seems around 50% faster then the 1000 series equivalents

but the pricing is what kills it...$1200 for the Ti is insane...especially since ray-tracing is in its infancy...you have to not care about $$ in order to buy one...the 2080 is interesting in that it seems to be better then the 1080Ti and close to the same price...no point getting a 1080Ti over a 2080...the real interesting part is going to be the 2070...can't wait for performance numbers/reviews on that
 
polonyc2 said:
looking at reviews my takeaway is that the Founders Edition cards look really sexy from a visual standpoint...really good looking cards...the addition of the USB-C port is also interesting...love that Nvidia now has dedicated floating point and integer units to go along with the new tensor cores...as far as performance it seems around 50% faster then the 1000 series equivalents

but the pricing is what kills it...$1200 for the Ti is insane...especially since ray-tracing is in its infancy...you have to not care about $$ in order to buy one...the 2080 is interesting in that it seems to be better then the 1080Ti and close to the same price...no point getting a 1080Ti over a 2080...the real interesting part is going to be the 2070...can't wait for performance numbers/reviews on that
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Uhh that's not at all what the reviews say....
 
everyone is saying the same thing...do not buy these cards...not because they aren't good but because they are not worth the price premium...ray-tracing, DLSS, developer support etc need to mature...only the people with unlimited $$ who pre-order every new generation of cards (the same people on [H] who jump at every new generation no matter what) should buy this...
 
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The sad conciquence of lacking competition. Pathetic jump over current cards in actual games, and over blown RT impact with shady screen shots and demos, instant product fail.
 
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polonyc2 said:
looking at reviews my takeaway is that the Founders Edition cards look really sexy from a visual standpoint...really good looking cards...the addition of the USB-C port is also interesting...love that Nvidia now has dedicated floating point and integer units to go along with the new tensor cores...as far as performance it seems around 50% faster then the 1000 series equivalents

but the pricing is what kills it...$1200 for the Ti is insane...especially since ray-tracing is in its infancy...you have to not care about $$ in order to buy one...the 2080 is interesting in that it seems to be better then the 1080Ti and close to the same price...no point getting a 1080Ti over a 2080...the real interesting part is going to be the 2070...can't wait for performance numbers/reviews on that
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2070 won't be a surprise. It'll be around the around the speed of the 1080(non-ti) for similar cost. What they've done with this generation is essentially bumped 2070, 2080 & 2080 Ti a tier up in cost. It's an interesting psychological mindgame they're playing with the naming & prices. The prices and performance tier for this generation goes as follows:

2070 = 1080
2080 = 1080 Ti
2080 Ti = Titan Xp

The only real improvement I envision in terms of performance-per-cost is 2080 Ti, which is faster than the Titan Xp.
 
^ To add to this post:

When was the last time we've had a scenario where current and new price: performance is the same?

GTX 1080 - 599 launch price
RTX 2070 - 599 launch price
Ballpark performance projected to be the same, except with RTX.

GTX 1080Ti - 699 launch price
RTX 2080 - 699 launch price
Ballpark performance the same, except with RTX.

Only the 2080Ti offers more performance but at steep additional cost, complete reversal of what happened with Pascal...
 
Stoicz said:
2070 won't be a surprise. It'll be around the around the speed of the 1080(non-ti) for similar cost. What they've done with this generation is essentially bumped 2070, 2080 & 2080 Ti a tier up in cost. It's an interesting psychological mindgame they're playing with the naming & prices. The prices and performance tier for this generation goes as follows:

2070 = 1080
2080 = 1080 Ti
2080 Ti = Titan Xp

The only real improvement I envision in terms of performance-per-cost is 2080 Ti, which is faster than the Titan Xp.
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combine that with the fact that the 2080/2070 will be pretty much useless for ray-tracing it really makes Nvidia's strategy this time out very puzzling...the only way to save this would be for them to drastically cut prices...$700-$750 2080 Ti...2080 at $600...2070 at $500
 
The guys who bought a 1080 or 1080 Ti should be happy that they're getting some longevity out of their cards. I'll just wait for the next generation and hope they have the new architecture all ironed out by then.
 
Krenum said:
Those days are gone, Jensen is updating his leather jacket wardrobe. Time to pay up.
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Without crypto demand, we'll have see....
Comixbooks said:
Maybe Nvidia wants people to buy the most expensive card justifying its price.
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Miners were generating an income. They didn't pay increased prices blindly. Without that demand, how are these prices justified for strictly gaming use? 1080 TI were $1500 on Ebay. Now, used ones are 30% of that.
 
aldamon said:
Without crypto demand, we'll have see....


Miners were generating an income. They didn't pay increased prices blindly. Without that demand, how are these prices justified for strictly gaming use? 1080 TI were $1500 on Ebay. Now, used ones are 30% of that.
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The smaller the process, the more expensive the design/valaidation/test fases become...but again, if you don't want to pay...don't pay.
Simple economics.
 
Factum said:
The smaller the process, the more expensive the design/valaidation/test fases become...but again, if you don't want to pay...don't pay.
Simple economics.
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Most of the people in this thread: "I don't like the price I'm not going to buy it"

You; "if you don't like the price then don't buy it"

SMFH the intellectual giants who took micro and macro econ in high school tower over us plebs again.
 
polonyc2 said:
combine that with the fact that the 2080/2070 will be pretty much useless for ray-tracing it really makes Nvidia's strategy this time out very puzzling...the only way to save this would be for them to drastically cut prices...$700-$750 2080 Ti...2080 at $600...2070 at $500
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If the RTX 2080 was $600, I'd buy one. At $800? No way. Not when I can currently buy a new 1080 Ti for $630. Ray Tracing isn't worth $170 to me at this point.
 
Dayaks said:
You know I’d drop $1200 in a heart beat if this chip was all cuda cores. ~35% improvement, which is great considering, is a tough buy by itself. I don’t know what they were thinking launching this without RTX at all. I hoped at least for DLSS.
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Well, their marketing has been pitching these cards as 4K capable cards. If they waited for Ray Tracing benchmarks - which revealed them to be 1080p or 1440p cards at best with RT on - that would negate the whole "These are 4K cards!" message.
 
For context, I've bought every high end GPU for the last 3-4 product cycles.

GTX 680 SLI
R9 290X CF
980 Ti
Titan XP

For a 2-year wait and $1200 I'm extremely unimpressed. Not much else to say. I'm not spending $1200 for this meager of an upgrade and it's sad that we had to wait this long.
 
Factum said:
The smaller the process, the more expensive the design/valaidation/test fases become...but again, if you don't want to pay...don't pay.
Simple economics.
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Given performance with current tech, the juice is not worth the squeeze. I don't care what nvidia's increased costs are, thats not my problem. New untested tech that isn't really on the table at all for 1-3 months and performance that really only improves at 4k, while being almost double the price, does not inspire one to go out and buy now or even 2-3 months from now. I'm certainly not inspired to wait for 1-2 months to see what the 2070 does for $500-600. We still dont have a release date for the 2070, which means its the new 960/1060. The 1060 was technically released 6-7 weeks after the 1080, the 960 was 4 months (sept 14 to jan 22).

About the only interesting thing is to see where used and new pascal prices shake out at.
 
NON FE Prices for RTX cards on my side of the world, inclusive of tax and VAT:

Cheapest 2080 = 900$
ASUS STRIX 2080 = 1250$
Cheapest 2080Ti = 1300$
ASUS STRIX 2080Ti = 1750$

These aren't even FEs. Who are going to buy these?
 
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