WinAmp Not Dead?

I can't for the life of me look forward to the idea of acquiring, curating and maintaining local music anymore. Spotify has killed any possibility of that for me.

Hell back then I was even keeping FLAC's.. no more. Spotify sounds just fine at its highest quality (paid) setting on my HD650s.

I just cannot be bothered anymore.
 
Boy, I sure loved Winamp from back in the day ... however, AIMP is crushing it on so many levels. Winamp would have very big shoes to fill.

Super small memory footprint and it just works and works beautifully. Not only that, AIMP supports VSTI's ... so you can master the sound you're hearing in real time. I use iZotope Ozone 4, but have 5 and 6 as well. And let me tell you, when you push mastered sound thru a DAC into really good speakers, KRK's here ... it's an phenomenal listening experience.

I would be shocked if Winamp had out of the box VSTi support. But hey, you never know!

Thanks for sharing.
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criccio said:
I can't for the life of me look forward to the idea of acquiring, curating and maintaining local music anymore. Spotify has killed any possibility of that for me.

Hell back then I was even keeping FLAC's.. no more. Spotify sounds just fine at its highest quality (paid) setting on my HD650s.

I just cannot be bothered anymore.
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It literally takes almost zero effort to collect and maintain a vast library of music. If you're passionate about it, then of course you can augment your listening experience with DAC's, VSTi's, Headphones, Speakers and the like.

I've tried the steaming services .... not even close to the same experience I've had in place even before they came onto the scene.

Sounds like you place a lot of value into ease of use. And, nothing wrong with that.
 
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I use Winamp. I also have a Zune. But the new Legacy allows me to play MP3's from a USB stick now. hah
 
It's fairly easy to pick up a very nice pair of KRK self-powered 5's or 6's for around $100 to $150 for a pair if the local population is large enough such as Kansas City where I live. Awesome speakers for cheap. Paired with my Pixel 2 XL and a Google Chromecast Audio ... I can push mastered FLAC's from anywhere in the home.
 
Used winamp back in '97. Used it for quite a lonng time..

Can't remember why I switched.. either ads or some annoying feature they added.
Now I use foobar.
 
Good to hear the Llama is still hanging around.

I still use WinAmp 2.91 for music on my big house stereo. Took a while playing with associations to get it to run in Win10. Using the visualizations like Milk Drop and AVS is another matter. Win7 was much more simple in both regards.
 
Daily user since around '02.
Better be good if they're going to tempt us holdouts.
 
criccio said:
I can't for the life of me look forward to the idea of acquiring, curating and maintaining local music anymore. Spotify has killed any possibility of that for me.

Hell back then I was even keeping FLAC's.. no more. Spotify sounds just fine at its highest quality (paid) setting on my HD650s.

I just cannot be bothered anymore.
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yup, same for me, i had a few 100 gig's of FLAC music but with audio streaming these days i just can't be bothered with it.. plus my taste in music has changed a lot over the last 20 years, lol.
 
It's like most movie refreshings and sequels. Once Winamp died, I think it is no more, no matter what they do. They lost momentum for so long which is very hard to regain. Now there ara alternatives and choice.
AIMP is good but it is somehow more "wooden" in its default skin and I couldn't find a good usable skin for myself. I got used to Foobar2000 too much already, it may be a "siple window" as a friend calls it, even with most of the skins, but in the long run that's what I value in it - it stays hidden in the tray 98% of the time. It's more usable than most "beautifully skinned" players, it has the invaluable waveform seekbar, and ... at least for me under Windows Server 2016 it just works reliably. AIMP under the same OSes crashes often for me which I couldn't stand and ditched it.
Winamp?!... No, I don't think I would be even interested of trying it if it comes to life again. We ALL used Winamp in early days, it was the best and maybe the only popular player everyone knew. Whatever I tried last decade I always return to foobar.
An analogy - I used IE back in the days but since FF emerged, IE never ever!
 
WinAMP was my go to music player back in the day. The latest version I have is 5.666 and it does everything I need it to which is simply playing the music I own. It'd be great to see an updated version with new features.
 
Used winamp back in the day when it first came out, but nowadays it's Foobar2000. I think that's what most audiophiles use as well?
 
Still use it for almost all my music playback. Foobar only if I want to play DSD files. Winamp won't play nice with them.
 
I've never stopped using it and don't see the need for a new version. It just works.
 
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Zepher said:
I also have an Alpine skin
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No Alpine skin here, oddly enough. One of may favorite parts of WimAmp was the dizzying array of skins available. Back in the day I had over 250 set to change with each song. Slimmed down to just 44 of the more usable ones right now. Some were much too busy looking.

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Pandora does nearly everything I need.

I don’t often want to listen to songs repeatedly, or the same playlists over and over. I rarely watch a movie twice or play a game twice. Pandora’s a great match for my wandering inclinations.

When I do find a song I love and want to use for occasional home theater demos I’ll buy the single song on Amazon for ~ $1 and play it off my NAS drive directly through my Denon X7200wa when interested. Winamp’s time has passed for my subjective use case. It was my number one player for many many years though. I loved it in college back in 98/99 and beyond!
 
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Coincidentally to the OP two weeks ago, The Internet Archive recently announced a new project; an archive of over 5000 WinAmp skins.


Speaking of skins; this is a total long shot, but I just might strike a nerve in just the right nerd: does anyone have the skin-file "Kryogen X", or any related information?

I almost had a small heart attack when I saw the Archive announcement. For *years* I have been searching to revive a childhood memory, the skin named above. I was hoping my redemption had come, however it wasn't to be found in the archive (for now).

The only evidence I have left is this *old* screenshot I found (scaled to double size):
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It would be amazing if someone could provide a link or submit the skin to the archive, if you have it. Besides being nice and utilitarian overall when in full display mode, the primary reason I never switched after I came upon it, is that the interface when minimized (which was how I used it 99% of the time) was pretty, non-flashy and easy to read, unlike the majority of skins which failed in this regard, because the minimized element wasn't given much attention.

This post will probably end up becoming the only web search result for "Kryogen X" + "WinAmp", but I'm hoping for a miracle.
 
criccio said:
I can't for the life of me look forward to the idea of acquiring, curating and maintaining local music anymore. Spotify has killed any possibility of that for me.

Hell back then I was even keeping FLAC's.. no more. Spotify sounds just fine at its highest quality (paid) setting on my HD650s.

I just cannot be bothered anymore.
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As you get older, everything starts to sound better

I can probably still tell the difference but it's getting much harder at 37, even though i've spent a good portion of my life in silence.
 
Katana-DK said:
Coincidentally to the OP two weeks ago, The Internet Archive recently announced a new project; an archive of over 5000 WinAmp skins.


Speaking of skins; this is a total long shot, but I just might strike a nerve in just the right nerd: does anyone have the skin-file "Kryogen X", or any related information?

I almost had a small heart attack when I saw the Archive announcement. For *years* I have been searching to revive a childhood memory, the skin named above. I was hoping my redemption had come, however it wasn't to be found in the archive (for now).

The only evidence I have left is this *old* screenshot I found (scaled to double size):
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It would be amazing if someone could provide a link or submit the skin to the archive, if you have it. Besides being nice and utilitarian overall when in full display mode, the primary reason I never switched after I came upon it, is that the interface when minimized (which was how I used it 99% of the time) was pretty, non-flashy and easy to read, unlike the majority of skins which failed in this regard, because the minimized element wasn't given much attention.

This post will probably end up becoming the only web search result for "Kryogen X" + "WinAmp", but I'm hoping for a miracle.
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I actually used that skin, was one of my favorites. Sadly, I don't believe that I have anything winamp related anymore, but I will look.
 
Sorry boys, but Roon with tidal intergration and Qobuz intergration coming real soon, beats all others, the next step down, but more powerful and tweakable until yo nipples get raw is JRiver.

Roon is amazing, but costs £100 per year or £400 for life, JRiver, costs like £35 a year or you stay on that years version, which is really powerful and beats winamp, which I had mad love for, and foobar, which I found to be more pain than it’s worth.

Roon, it’s like walking into a huge music library with everything you need to know about the artists and songs and albums. Really is the best music player out there, but unless you have a huge library, you will need to have a sub to tidal, and soon qobuz.

Tidal £20 month, Qobuz sublime, £300 per year but it streams and lets you buy cheap 192khz / 24bit songs albums, at mp3 prices.

It lets you stream to as much different devices at once as your roon core pc can handle. Think, each room in your house having a speaker or a device, static or mobile, each person can control what music they want to listen to via what device, whilst other people in the house are doing the same thing with there speaker/devices.
 
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Katana-DK said:
Coincidentally to the OP two weeks ago, The Internet Archive recently announced a new project; an archive of over 5000 WinAmp skins.


Speaking of skins; this is a total long shot, but I just might strike a nerve in just the right nerd: does anyone have the skin-file "Kryogen X", or any related information?

I almost had a small heart attack when I saw the Archive announcement. For *years* I have been searching to revive a childhood memory, the skin named above. I was hoping my redemption had come, however it wasn't to be found in the archive (for now).

The only evidence I have left is this *old* screenshot I found (scaled to double size):
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It would be amazing if someone could provide a link or submit the skin to the archive, if you have it. Besides being nice and utilitarian overall when in full display mode, the primary reason I never switched after I came upon it, is that the interface when minimized (which was how I used it 99% of the time) was pretty, non-flashy and easy to read, unlike the majority of skins which failed in this regard, because the minimized element wasn't given much attention.

This post will probably end up becoming the only web search result for "Kryogen X" + "WinAmp", but I'm hoping for a miracle.
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Looks a lot like K-Tech-SFX style skin but a smaller version. Neat, I love how flexible winamp UI is. Used to make a few skins but was MS-paint level lol.
 
EVIL-SCOTSMAN said:
Sorry boys, but Roon with tidal intergration and Qobuz intergration coming real soon, beats all others, the next step down, but more powerful and tweakable until yo nipples get raw is JRiver.

Roon is amazing, but costs £100 per year or £400 for life, JRiver, costs like £35 a year or you stay on that years version, which is really powerful and beats winamp, which I had mad love for, and foobar, which I found to be more pain than it’s worth.

Roon, it’s like walking into a huge music library with everything you need to know about the artists and songs and albums. Really is the best music player out there, but unless you have a huge library, you will need to have a sub to tidal, and soon qobuz.

Tidal £20 month, Qobuz sublime, £300 per year but it streams and lets you buy cheap 192khz / 24bit songs albums, at mp3 prices.

It lets you stream to as much different devices at once as your roon core pc can handle. Think, each room in your house having a speaker or a device, static or mobile, each person can control what music they want to listen to via what device, whilst other people in the house are doing the same thing with there speaker/devices.
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That's some overcomplicated, oversized, messy shit there, not a discrete and unobtrusive audio player the likes of Winamp.

I like to stick to Winamp for audio and MPC-HC/BE for video, but I prefer utilitarian/simple/to-the-point/out-of-your-way more than flashy/metro/hipster/look-at-me/in-your-face/all-over-your-screen/overdesigned approach.
 
Meeho said:
That's some overcomplicated, oversized, messy shit there, not a discrete and unobtrusive audio player the likes of Winamp.

I like to stick to Winamp for audio and MPC-HC/BE for video, but I prefer utilitarian/simple/to-the-point/out-of-your-way more than flashy/metro/hipster/look-at-me/in-your-face/all-over-your-screen/overdesigned approach.
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Na, if anything, it’s even simpler than winamp, complicated and oversized ? Nope, not in the slightest. Or did you mean to quote the dude above your post with the messy interface.

I mean Roon, it couldn’t be any simpler, you start it up, the roon core on your pc, basically a server, and it finds all devices on your pc and network that are capable of playing music. Upon starting it up on your computer, it displays a list of albums on your pc and other ones that it thinks you may like from tidal.

It really is super simple, and this is coming from a long term user of winamp.

This is how uncomplicated and not oversized it is.

This is the interface on my pc, disregard the icons at the top as thats me vnc’ing into my pc via an ipad. But the ipad app is basically the same, same with ios and droid versions.

First pic is the main screen on startup, and showing which device I’m using and if its the best quality or not, purple star means untouched and lossless.

Second pic is the devices or end points as they are called, that I can choose from to play music to. Example, I have disabled some, but my phone was in there, I can chose my phone and stream to that in seconds, and say I had 5 kids each with a phone, the roon core on your pc, can play those 5 peoples music at the same time, and it can all be different.

Third pic is info about the artist that you are playing or just looking up.

It really is super uncomplicated and slim, example, you can run it in the background on your pc, use the phone app, or tablet app and you have complete control.

It’s costly, but it is really worth it, and winamp is more complicated than this,

Anyway, everyone has their likes and dislikes, but I find it better than the mess that is the post above yours,
I can see where your coming from, just something to play music and small, but after using winamp for well over a decade, I think I started using it in 2002 or thereabouts, once I tried the free trial of roon, I couldn’t go back to winamp. If you want small and unobtrusive, install it on your pc and hide it in the background, and just use the phone app to control it, thats as unobtrusive as you can get. I

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Listening to an automatic Tidal 1980s playlist, so you may see some whack shit playing,
 
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It covers your whole screen, how is it not oversized? It's like a HTPC interface.
 
I just used the most boring classic skin. Listened to ripped cds and sometimes shoutcast.
Can't seem to get a screenshot.
 
Foobar2000.

That said, I mostly just stream these days. So much easier.
 
I'm trying to install 5.666 because the new beta version will not work at all, but it is stuck on setup and will not go past that. It sends in the user information, asks if it wants to allow the app to make changes to my device and then it goes back to the setup screen again.

When trying to download the new beta version yesterday, it immediately crashed right after opening and gave me an error report message. Tried installing it again today with a different theme and it's giving me the same thing.
 
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