RTX2080 and RTX2080Ti Reviews online

Chimpee said:
I can see a 2060 being close to a 1080 minus Raytracing and DLSS support.
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You’re forgetting 2070 and that 2080=1080ti. 2060 will simply cannibalize 2070 if 2060 was 1080 performance level. The whole stack just moved one level up and the 2080/ti reviews confirmed it.
 
People are calling the 2080ti a Titan, is this actually accurate, or is this just people justifying the Titan price?
 
anyone watch the LTT video? check about the 8 min mark. he had a game developer lined up to show off rtx in game, but they had to cancel without a reason. hmmm.

 
Aireoth said:
People are calling the 2080ti a Titan, is this actually accurate, or is this just people justifying the Titan price?
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It's a Ti card with a Titan price-point. Basically its an attempt to justify the price.
 
reaper12 said:
I would suggest that AMD is in a great spot right now. These new cards from Nvidia are such a high price they are actually damaging the Nvidia Mindshare. AMD have sold more Vega cards than they ever expected to sell because of the mining craze. I am pretty sure right now they are just sitting back watching Nvidia suffer a little and smiling while working on their 7nm parts. Because if they release them before Nvidia does and the price/performance is there they could do really well.

Not saying it will happen like that, but, this launch has disgruntled a lot of Nvidia buyers.
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It only puts the focus back on Pascal. Gtx 1080s and 1080tis are still around and these will be AMDs main competition.
 
Aireoth said:
People are calling the 2080ti a Titan, is this actually accurate, or is this just people justifying the Titan price?
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In several past releases you get a Titan first as the expensive first iteration of the new Biggest die card. Then later you get that same chip in a cost reduced x80Ti.

Basically Titan was early adopter taxed card.

This release you get it first in x80Ti, but you are paying the early adopter taxed price like it were a Titan.

Also Titan name seems to have been retired from gaming cards with the intro of Titan V.

Effectively I don't see much difference from getting the biggest chip early at $1200 wether you call it Titan or x80Ti. It really doesn't change anything immediately except the name.

What it does likely signal is that you are NOT getting it for $700 6 months from now.
 
wasteomind said:
Wow this puts me in a rough spot. I REALLY wanted to get away from SLI as I'm currently running 980sli (not ti). The 1080ti felt like too much of a side grade to justify the price, and now the 2080ti looks like terrible price to performance ratio. I mean, i can afford it, but I'm just second guessing actually doing it. 1080ti sli would probably perform better, and cost the same or less, but I don't want to go back to SLI.

Sigh. What is a moron like me to do?
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Do you have a g-sync monitor?

If you do have the 2012 i5 and 2080 Ti you should test out Shadow of the Tomb Raider and let us know.
 
Derangel said:
It's a Ti card with a Titan price-point. Basically its an attempt to justify the price.
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This is what I am thinking. Nvidia will launch a Titan rtx within 6 months with more ram, taking bets now.
 
bigbluefe said:
The products are fucking shit. They don't provide any new features to consumers that aren't already available.

Their ray tracing shit still isn't performant enough to be useful, so the feature is a WASTE until a later generation of cards. Might as well have not even included it.

It's still not fast enough for 4k gaming.

1440p gaming is already fast enough on a 1080ti, so once again, NOTHING NEW has been made possible by these cards.

They didn't add support for HDMI 2.1, and they're still desperately clinging onto their bullshit G-Sync modules. NO PROGRESS there either. These cards will be worthless for VRR TVs.

Basically the consumer card (2080) is the first flagship Nvidia card that's not even faster--arguably slower--than the last consumer card.

The Titan card (rebranded 2080ti) is a card made for GAME DEVELOPERS to start working on ray tracing in games. It's for developers. It's not even a consumer card. But it's being marketed as a consumer card.

Oh and FUCK upscaling. You can throw as much buzzword bullshit as you want at it, but upscaling is still upscaling, and gamers will be able to tell. There will be a quality loss. You know Nvidia cherry picked scenarios to make their crap stink less than it does, and then they slapped on WHOOOAAAAAAA ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WHOAOAAAAA MACHINE LEARNING to sell it to idiots.

It's trash.
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Somebody needs a hug and a valium.
 
singe_101 said:
Steve at Techspot for Shadow of the Tomb Raider 4K, Ti: "if you drop the preset one level to high the average frame rate jumps up to 80 fps with a 1% low result of over 60 fps"

Do other sites try these changes in reviews?
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Not that I've seen, but no one had a lot of time to get their reviews done. By the time Nvidia released drivers reviewers had 4 or 5 days to get everything tested and ready to go for the NDA lift.
 
Raendor said:
You’re forgetting 2070 and that 2080=1080ti. 2060 will simply cannibalize 2070 if 2060 was 1080 performance level. The whole stack just moved one level up and the 2080/ti reviews confirmed it.
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I didn't forget it at all, I do believe 2070 is just 1080 with RT and DLSS, but I wouldn't know if it is true until 2060 is out.
 
It doesn't appear to me that these cards are being reviewed correctly. They need to compare a 1080TI with 2x MSAA (or whatever) to a 2080 with DLSS. That is where the performance is since AA tends to tank performance.
 
sirsad said:
It doesn't appear to me that these cards are being reviewed correctly. They need to compare a 1080TI with 2x MSAA (or whatever) to a 2080 with DLSS. That is where the performance is since AA tends to tank performance.
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Outside of the broken ass, reviewer exclusive, FFXV benchmark there is nothing that even supports DLSS right now.
 
This launch reminds me of the GTX 480. Lots of MEMEs and a short life span.
 
The problem with 2080Ti is that 1080Ti is still quite powerful for 4k gaming. I haven't really followed the monitor scene lately, I know that the new HDMI and Display support more than 60hz at 4k, but are there actually screens that are 4k and above 60hz? Because at 4k/60hz, 1080Ti is just fine and the price of 2080Ti is not justifiable.
It's maybe a different story for 1440p/240hz or something, but I doubt that 2080Ti is a smart upgrade for 4k/60hz.
 
If you have a 4k 144hz panel and want to use it the best you can then a 2080Ti is your only choice. Likely Nvidia will have something out in 9 months or so on 7nm so unless you are going to get it immediately you are better off waiting. I know I'd be pissed if I spent $1,200 (not that I ever would) three months from now while waiting on RT games only to have it superseded in another 6 months.
 
Derangel said:
Outside of the broken ass, reviewer exclusive, FFXV benchmark there is nothing that even supports DLSS right now.
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the game doesn't need to support DLSS. However, nVidia needs to do their thing in the driver to support the game. So why haven't they taken a few notable games and implemented DLSS on their own?
 
kirbyrj said:
Spoiler Alert:

2080Ti = 30% gain in performance over 1080Ti
2080 = 1080Ti performance
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This is not the correct way to compare these new cards. The new cards are in an entirely different price bracket than the old ones of similar model #'s, and these are the cards you should compare against one another:

2080 Ti vs Titan XP
2080 vs 1080Ti

The 2080 Ti is still a pretty good leap above the Titan XP I believe(XP was 5-15% faster than the 1080Ti), but the 2080 has little value (DLSS) over the 1080 Ti until we see raytracing results. It's very underwhelming if you look at the new price brackets these new GPU's are fitting into.
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
How about you share your logic about how you came up with such an asinine analogy.
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LOL clearly you're an example of someone angry because they cannot afford the newer cards.

If anything, you should blame their competition for throwing in the towel at the flagship product price point.

Nvidia's doing what anyone would do if there's no competing product and according to their strategy there's a suitable market size for them to sell these at those price points. Maybe in 2 years when AMD gets around to releasing something worthwhile or Nvidia product refresh time, the prices will be more reasonable.
 
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TheMadHatterXxX said:
How about ignore all the crying and decide for yourself if the performance boost is worth a cost that you can afford over the next 2 years? This entire launch is basically like the a person driving a civic crying because they want a new car but a lambo is out of their price range.
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but in this case the lambo the person is crying over has a civic engine in it.
 
Anyone else notice reviewers seeing more extensive CPU bottlenecks @ 1440P with the RTX series cards vs. Pascal?
Gamer's Nexus-Hardware Unboxed-Hardware Canucks all saw CPU bottlenecks @ 1440P w/ 8086K / 8700K 5Ghz and 7900K @ 4.8GHz, and that's only half the GPU being utilized.

The shit is really going to hit the fan when RTX gets enabled along with DLSS in games. Bring on the Gigahurtz CPU warz! :D
 
TheMadHatterXxX said:
LOL clearly you're an example of someone angry because they cannot afford the newer cards.

If anything, you should blame their competition for throwing in the towel at the flagship product price point.

Nvidia's doing what anyone would do if there's no competing product and according to their strategy there's a suitable market size for them to sell these at those price points. Maybe in 2 years when AMD gets around to releasing something worthwhile or Nvidia product refresh time, the prices will be more reasonable.
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Sorry dude, 100% wrong. I own a 1080TI, and just sold my second card since it provided little benefit. Want to try again :)? I'm not going to start listing out my financial situation for you anyway, but it just seems that you have a narrow view on the situation, and want to justify your reasoning for buying one. I almost pre-ordered, but decided against it.
 
aldamon said:
This is the best review I've seen so far because it doesn't nerf the 1080 TI by limiting it to the terrible clocks of the 1080 TI FE:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...ders-edition-review-benchmarks-vs-gtx-1080-ti

I'm sure they'll get their hands slapped for not following alleged protocol.
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The 2080 is still about 30% faster whether or not both the 1080 and 2080 are overclocked. I don't know why everyone is comparing the 2080 to the 1080 Ti. "But teh price!"
Budwise said:
Unless they make RT available to AMD, what developer would spend a bunch of dev time for it? It's another Hairworks for now imo.
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Ray tracing is built into DirectX 12. It's up to AMD whether or not they want to support it on a hardware level. Given their history with hardware support for tessellation (another feature built into DirectX, by the way), I am going to guess that AMD isn't too keen about supporting ray tracing, either.
 
Armenius said:
The 2080 is still about 30% faster whether or not both the 1080 and 2080 are overclocked. I don't know why everyone is comparing the 2080 to the 1080 Ti. "But teh price!"

Ray tracing is built into DirectX 12. It's up to AMD whether or not they want to support it on a hardware level. Given their history with hardware support for tessellation (another feature built into DirectX, by the way), I am going to guess that AMD isn't too keen about supporting ray tracing, either.
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I think it's fair to compare the price.

EG the GTX 1070 was heavily compared to the GTX 980TI because you got 980TI performance for a lower cost , and with less power.
 
Disagreeing with a stupid decision doesn't automatically make you broke, theres plenty of Vega cards out there, go buy a few of those too while you're at it.
 
sirsad said:
According to


the game doesn't need to support DLSS. However, nVidia needs to do their thing in the driver to support the game. So why haven't they taken a few notable games and implemented DLSS on their own?
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No, you are just misinterpreting the video which is VERY light on detail compared to later info that was released. NVidia does the DLSS training on their network for the developer. But the Developer still has to enable DLSS it in their game. Consider that DLSS runs at lower resolution, so it has to be tightly integrated into the game by the developer. You select 4K resolution, but when you enable DLSS in the game, it will actually run at some lower resolution, and enable the trained DNN they got from NVidia to do AA and scale back up to 4K.

It's not something NVidia can just force enable on games, it has to be integrated.
 
LightsOut41 said:
No, it's just an indication that our hobby is full of stupid individuals with no impulse control.
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LOL! I already have two 1080 Tis and I simply wanted something even faster than that. Which the 2080 Tis are. It's not like I can't sell the 1080 Tis if I want.
 
I'm disappointed with the launch in general, not the actual cards (well, their price)

but more the coverage(or lack there of) and in depth reviews, here is to waiting for the [H] Review
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
I'm disappointed with the launch in general, not the actual cards (well, their price)

but more the coverage(or lack there of) and in depth reviews, here is to waiting for the [H] Review
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Nvidia took so long to release drivers that reviewers only had 4-5 days to get reviews done before the NDA lift. Doesn't give a lot of time for people to get in-depth. I almost wonder if that was intentional.
 
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