Poll: Will you be buying a 2080Ti/2080/2070?

Which card will you be buying?

  • 2080 Ti

    Votes: 92 14.7%
  • 2080

    Votes: 19 3.0%
  • 2070

    Votes: 16 2.6%
  • * Not interested

    Votes: 257 41.1%
  • Waiting for AMD

    Votes: 89 14.2%
  • Depends on benchmark results

    Votes: 152 24.3%

  • Total voters
    625

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If the games only run at 40fps in 1080p that will anger many who pre-order the 2080 TI, IMO I don't understand why anyone who would buy a $1200 GPU just to play it at 1080p?

That's just Ray Tracing games. In normal games it will be 35 to 45% faster than a 1080Ti and in games that use DLSS it will be even faster again.

And even with the Ray Tracing games they are working to improve that frame rate and they can even Ray Trace at 1080p and apply it to a 4K scene. So, stop acting like this is the whole story.
 
I wonder how the tensor cores do with the various crypto currencies?

I know asic based work is taking a big piece of the market, yet winter is coming to north America (along with other important places), could the crypto market be betting on the new cards doing double duty of heating and making money?

My thought about all the preorders any how.
 
Pre-orders seem to be selling out everywhere. So either Nvidia is having big supply problems or people are digging the raytracing hype.
It may be a supply issue since they'll only be getting little more than half the number of chips per silicon wafer compared to Pascal.
If the games only run at 40fps in 1080p that will anger many who pre-order the 2080 TI, IMO I don't understand why anyone who would buy a $1200 GPU just to play it at 1080p?
Not at all. I am very excited to get my hands on games with ray tracing. If I don't like it I can always turn ray tracing off and play the game at 4K with 100 FPS.
 
Let them rot on the shelves, after some time Nvidia will realize the price is too high or they are really capacity constrained and thus the high price. Just wait this generation out since your at 1440p anyway and your current card will run it just fine.
i guess, but, looking like it will sell anyway :D ti was quite expensive before, but now it really is titan price. not sure if they are just trying to squeze as hard as they can just for the sake of it, or if there is a realistic and logical explanation for the huge increase in price. ive not seen such a bump before, 980ti -> 1080ti there was not much difference in price at all @ launch.
 
The logical explanation is that they want to increase margins every year, which they have been. With a bigger die size the only way to do so is to raise prices. This benefits the stock holders and the CEO. In a more competitive environment they would settle for decreased margins in order to take market share from their competitors, but there are no competitors.
 
I'm not interested in buying any of them... not one bit.

The prices are ludicrous and I just upgraded from an R9-390 to a 1080.

The 1080 should be fine for me for at least a couple years. By then, the 2080/ti should be an acceptable price.
 
I'll end up with 2 x 2080 TI's most likely.

What else is money good for cept to spend it. Not like I've had issues with that so far.... ;)

Just need to get a better CPU/MB before I get the video cards. Still debating between Intel/AMD for this time around.
 
I'll end up with 2 x 2080 TI's most likely.

What else is money good for cept to spend it. Not like I've had issues with that so far.... ;)

Just need to get a better CPU/MB before I get the video cards. Still debating between Intel/AMD for this time around.

Either way make sure you can run both at 16x PCIe 3.0. I am not even sure if threadripper 2 is out yet... if it is it’s probably not a bad choice. I wouldn’t use TR gen 1.

Vega that wanders these forums tested SLI Maxwell (IIRC) and 16x vs 8x PCIe was a 14% difference I think. If you’re dropping that cash do it right.
 
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I'll end up with 2 x 2080 TI's most likely.

What else is money good for cept to spend it. Not like I've had issues with that so far.... ;)

Just need to get a better CPU/MB before I get the video cards. Still debating between Intel/AMD for this time around.

Actually I have a better offer. For you send some my way and I will say a prayer each day for you for the rest of my life. Along with a 2080ti? may be? ROFL! AND No I wasn't kidding.
 
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I'll end up with 2 x 2080 TI's most likely.

What else is money good for cept to spend it. Not like I've had issues with that so far.... ;)

Just need to get a better CPU/MB before I get the video cards. Still debating between Intel/AMD for this time around.

Same here. I pre-ordered two Ti's and then I got new CPU/Mobo/RAM in preparation. This is my Nvidia/Intel rig, so I went with an 8700K and 4133 speed RAM.

Mostly all my other rigs are on Ryzen, and it's nice, but I think Intel is still top dog for straight gaming.

I had a 5960X in that rig before, which was good for work, but in gaming it was noticeably worse than much cheaper chips (7700K, etc.). Ended up selling on ebay, so the swap only cost me around $200.
 
Excuse me! did I say it's the whole story? you need to read next time before acting like this.

Maybe you need to learn to read your own posts.

If the games only run at 40fps in 1080p that will anger many who pre-order the 2080 TI, IMO I don't understand why anyone who would buy a $1200 GPU just to play it at 1080p?
 
I see New Egg limits one card per customer is that the same for other sites good way to keep scalpers and crypto miners out.
 
I'll end up with 2 x 2080 TI's most likely.

What else is money good for cept to spend it. Not like I've had issues with that so far.... ;)

Just need to get a better CPU/MB before I get the video cards. Still debating between Intel/AMD for this time around.
I'm also on Haswell, but I'm not doing any platform upgrade until next year. I want to see what AMD will bring on 7nm. I'm sure the 4770 will be fine for now, even though I heard the RTX cards are better with more cores.
 
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Why? They're grown-ups.

Not sure I'm reading your question right, but I feel better buying a used card from someone on Ebay than I would if I'd bought a NIB card from an AIB, because the latter would essentially reward Nvidia's recent behavior.

I was originally excited about the 20 series, but if a 2080 ($750) is essentially on par with a 1080Ti ($500 used)...and AIB 1080Ti's are still $650-700...then by buying used, the overstock is still sitting there. Now obviously, the Ebayer could be using the $ from my purchase to go to the 20 series, but $ in Nvidia's pocket isn't guaranteed.

It's a tiny endorphin release that only "sticking it to the man" can bring. ;-)
 
I am not changing nothing on the Poll it been posted like this on many computer forums,

Why don't you ask member rhexis and ask him to change his poll ?
https://hardforum.com/threads/poll-rtx-wait-for-reviews-or-pre-order.1966434/page-2#post-1043812789

AORUS, wow, nice comeback. So if he jumped off a cliff you would do that too?

When has NVidia ever dropped the prices on their flagship cards?

TheMadHatterXxX , they don't, which is why I suggested putting "* not until it drops to a realistic price." Nvidia has hit their head pretty hard if they think most people will part with a GPU for +$1000. That is not to say that there aren't those out there who will, but most PC consumers at best are on 4k monitors running at 60Hz or 1440 running +144Hz.

In either case will a 10-30% improvement on a GPU really help and make it visually worth while. Hell, 30% of the planet are still using 1366x768 with only 18% of the planet using 1920x1080. Forget about statistics for 1440 or 4k. http://gs.statcounter.com/screen-resolution-stats/desktop/worldwide

Buying a 2080ti for most people is like buying a 32 core CPU to play Donkey Kong. For hardcore gamers ROI is irrelevant.

Maybe in a year or two when raytracing has caught up it might be worth it, but gamers have been saying that about cores for years. Hell, a dual core was king for gaming up until about 4 or 5 years ago. Quad core is the norm and Hexa-core is just now becoming a thing for gamers.
 
Not at all. I am very excited to get my hands on games with ray tracing. If I don't like it I can always turn ray tracing off and play the game at 4K with 100 FPS.

In a way you are right but in another way it is weird that if Nvidia is introducing such a hardware feature and their hardware would not use more space on the ray tracing hardware features. For a company that is rather keen on winning the frames per second race a bit odd.
 
Since I just upgraded to a GTX 1080 TI, I will be passing.;)
 
Not sure I'm reading your question right, but I feel better buying a used card from someone on Ebay than I would if I'd bought a NIB card from an AIB, because the latter would essentially reward Nvidia's recent behavior.

I was originally excited about the 20 series, but if a 2080 ($750) is essentially on par with a 1080Ti ($500 used)...and AIB 1080Ti's are still $650-700...then by buying used, the overstock is still sitting there. Now obviously, the Ebayer could be using the $ from my purchase to go to the 20 series, but $ in Nvidia's pocket isn't guaranteed.

It's a tiny endorphin release that only "sticking it to the man" can bring. ;-)
If the AIB makers made a bad deal with Nvidia that's their problem. They're grown ups. They have lawyers who know contact law, or should. If they agreed to get inventory dumped on them, then that's their problem.
 
I said for most people. I think my delided i9-7900x @5.0Ghz qualifies me for my [H] card.
Why not an i9-7980XE?

:p
In a way you are right but in another way it is weird that if Nvidia is introducing such a hardware feature and their hardware would not use more space on the ray tracing hardware features. For a company that is rather keen on winning the frames per second race a bit odd.
Because all games until now are still rasterized. As ray tracing becomes more ubiquitous, I'm sure the die space utilized for it will become a larger and larger percentage of the die.
 
Because all games until now are still rasterized. As ray tracing becomes more ubiquitous, I'm sure the die space utilized for it will become a larger and larger percentage of the die.

No :) , unless the gaming industry adopt this there won't be anything going forward. Why else would Nvidia have so little hardware dedicated towards ray tracing. Have you heard how big the die is for this new Nvidia gpu?
If you are wondering why you pay the amount you need to pay for these new cards then look at the games coming out using Ray Tracing...
 
I don't plan on upgrading until my 1080 can't play games @ 1440p. I suspect I won't need to pick up anything for another generation or two.
 
If the AIB makers made a bad deal with Nvidia that's their problem. They're grown ups. They have lawyers who know contact law, or should. If they agreed to get inventory dumped on them, then that's their problem.

I can't say I fully agree with this sentiment.

The idea it is OK to screw over a company (I am not saying this did or didn't happen) just because they are 'big boys' and have resources is false.

Buy all this stock or we stop selling to you. This is the only contract we are willing to sign which has these provisions about sales numbers.

Having lawyers only projects the AIB if they have the ability to say "no."

Are you convinced NV is a fully ethical company? (I don't have any direct evidence one way or another, please share if you do).
 
The way contract law works is you're required to do what your agreed to even if you make a bad deal.

I doubt Nvidia has anyone's best interests at heart besides their own. It sucks if you're an AIB maker who was expecting to sell 1080s for $900 and they're now going for half that, but if you agreed to it, such is life.
 
Well, I cancelled my 2080 TI pre-order. I loaded up BF V and it played fine at 4k with just a setting or two downgraded. I'm going to save my money for a large format 4k HDR g-sync display.
 
I cancelled my 2080 Ti pre-order today. Decided to play the waiting game and see how the benches pan out. I just sold my Vega 64, so now I'm rocking a GTX 710. So painful on my eyes! hahaha
 
If the AIB makers made a bad deal with Nvidia that's their problem. They're grown ups. They have lawyers who know contact law, or should. If they agreed to get inventory dumped on them, then that's their problem.

That's basically what I'm saying from a consumer perspective, where you are looking at it from the supplier/AIB standpoint. I think we are in violent agreement, lol.
 
I'm looking forward to finally being able to upgrade my GTX 970 to a reasonable costing 1xxx series card (GTX 1070 Ti or GTX 1080). I think roughly November or so the cards should have dropped a fair amount, I already see prices have dropped considerably compared to the mining era peak but I still think it will drop slightly further during ~2 months time so that's roughly when I will strike. RTX 2070 (or Ti) maybe after 2 years if it has dropped to around ~$400, I'm voting with my wallet and don't accept the market dictacting pricing however it wants, a consumer shouldn't have to care about high development costs or mining consumers, that's the devs problem.

Especially now that GTX 1080 Ti is still holding up well for today's games, would I appriciate if as many as possible simply holded off at current pricing to make a stand about the pricing.
 
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Cancelled my 2080 Ti XC Ultra and Pre-ordered a 2080 Ti FTW3. Needs to get here yesterday.
 
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