funkydmunky
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Sure. What does teasing mean in your language?I'm not trolling but wasn't aware teasing = trolling neither so.... not my first language. Thanks, now if you have anything to add?
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Sure. What does teasing mean in your language?I'm not trolling but wasn't aware teasing = trolling neither so.... not my first language. Thanks, now if you have anything to add?
It seems painfully obvious that, in this case, a person with a 12 year history of mental illness shouldn’t have a gun ...
Sure. What does teasing mean in your language?
LOL!Same thing as in yours... teasing is an action of someone who cares for the other while trolling is plain stupid.
You would sue too. Why wouldnt you when the chances are extremely.good you will win lots of money
I really can't understand US logic.... Guns/weapons kill people, let's carry more guns/weapons.
This type of logic give way too much chances on weak mind to end up doing such stupid act...
Why not for once come to the conclusion that guns should be more regulated ? (Oh lord, please protect me from the flaming warriors)
Other countries have been doing fine this way... don't you think ?
(D*mn, if I hit Post reply it might be my last one lol)
Sorry, I just don't trust most people to carry weapons and I would say that it's not because XYZ is worse by XYZ standard that it's now not a problem anymore...
Anyway, I knew what I would be facing when I posted this so I won't bother teasing you more
Edit: The simple fact that someone may be carrying a gun tends to help make things escalate way faster. I can't understand because I never lived with such "open mind" but again, never felt the need neither since it's safe here even is big cities.
Wow. I've never seen an armed guard at a bowling alley or park. The only armed "security" ish person I've run into is a game warden when I was out grouse hunting, and that was the ONLY other person I encountered the entire weekend. Seriously, banks around here don't have armed guards... what kind of bowling alleys do you frequent that they need armed security?! You should move asap.EA has the money to spring for at least one armed guard. Hell, bowling alleys have a security guard. There should have been some sort of security in place, and there wasn't. If this were any of your family you'd be singing a different tune.
Problem I have when people talk about more gun control is that most of those people spew false facts as if it’s true (thanks biased media agenda) and their knee jerk reaction is just ban all guns and everything will be fine.
I feel bad for the victims but the gun didn’t shoot anyone by itself, it needed an evil persons assistance with the will to harm others.
I really can't understand US logic.... Guns/weapons kill people, let's carry more guns/weapons.
This type of logic give way too much chances on weak mind to end up doing such stupid act...
Why not for once come to the conclusion that guns should be more regulated ? (Oh lord, please protect me from the flaming warriors)
Other countries have been doing fine this way... don't you think ?
(D*mn, if I hit Post reply it might be my last one lol)
There are already many laws in place that forbid felons and people with mental issues of even owning a gun. This has come up before and usually falls with lack of enforcement of those laws. There is already tons of regulations in place.
I haven't heard of anyone arguing that EA should be held criminally negligent. Civil negligence, however, is a concern. The requirement of that is when one fails to take reasonable care in doing something to prevent a foreseeable harm. The standard doesn't require expertise, either, but rather what an average person would do under ordinary circumstances (https://injury.findlaw.com/accident-injury-law/standards-of-care-and-the-reasonable-person.html).There's no way the venue nor EA can be held criminally negligent. Neither party are experts at identifying potential threats of this nature. That's law enforcement's job. Perhaps they should have alerted them, but this are extreme situations.
As an event owner and operator, I'm concerned about what precedent this may set. :/
It's common to sue everyone that might have a connection...........Also what did Chicago Pizza do wrong?
Get rid of the people... was the logical conclusion that Google's AI came up with.Guns do not kill people. People do. How do we fix the people issue?
and money and/or insurance that will pay out in a lawsuit.It's common to sue everyone that might have a connection.
"Common" isn't a good way to look at it because it's, in practical terms, required.It's common to sue everyone that might have a connection.
Do you really think an armed guard would have prevented this? Think about it and try to play that situation out in your head. Two, three armed guards would likely not have prevented it either. Maybe, _maybe_ they could have taken him down before he fired all the rounds, but that's about it.EA has the money to spring for at least one armed guard. Hell, bowling alleys have a security guard. There should have been some sort of security in place, and there wasn't. If this were any of your family you'd be singing a different tune.
You would sue too. Why wouldnt you when the chances are extremely.good you will win lots of money
Feel free to say the exact same thing when a relative of yours gets on board a plane without security screening and they get blown up. Checking for weapons is always the responsibility of the venue, not the random people showing up at said venue.News flash...you leave your own home and you are no longer in a "safe space." Deal with it.
Unless there is something grossly negligent that EA and Chicago Pizza did (unlikely), this should go nowhere.
Feel free to say the exact same thing when a relative of yours gets on board a plane without security screening and they get blown up. Checking for weapons is always the responsibility of the venue, not the random people showing up at said venue.
Way to deflect. Do you let your relatives drive without a seatbelt on? Do you quote those same statistics every time they do or do you keep your trap shut because you honestly don't care as long as it doesn't poke a particular bias of yours?1). Stop making everything an emotional argument, "What if you're relative..." Even wikipedia knows this is ridiculous: "Appeal to emotion or argumentum ad passiones is a logical fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence." Here's a factual statement: "You are more likely to be killed in a car crash than you are by a gun wielding individual by a over a 3 to 1 margin. (~37,000 by car, ~11,000 gun homicides according to 2016 data)." Here's an emotional statement: "Feel free to say the exact same thing when a relative of yours gets on board a plane without security screening and they get blown up." See the difference?
Way to deflect. Do you let your relatives drive without a seatbelt on? Do you quote those same statistics every time they do or do you keep your trap shut because you honestly don't care as long as it doesn't poke a particular bias of yours?
And if you as a person know they aren't checking for weapons? Is it still the venues fault that you decided to "risk it" ?Feel free to say the exact same thing when a relative of yours gets on board a plane without security screening and they get blown up. Checking for weapons is always the responsibility of the venue, not the random people showing up at said venue.
Is it though? Just to give you an extreme example, I live in California... hell I live in the Peoples Republic of San Francisco where no gun sales are permitted. So I hop in a car drive a grand total of 15- 20 minutes to a city that does allow gun sales, pick one out, give them my driver's license to scan, wait 10 days, and get my gun. Now if I wanted one illegally I would have no idea where to go (I'm not counting the friends I know who have guns), sketchy part of town? ask if anyone has any guns for sale? If it's in San Francisco parking is going to be a bigger hassle than getting the gun, sure if you KNOW where to get illegal guns (you know a guy who knows a guy) then sure it may be easier. If you consider waiting 10 days makes getting a gun "hard" then sure it's easier getting a gun illegal (assuming you know a guy who knows a guy).It is easier to get a gun illegally that it is legal.
This is an assumption.
I never said anything like this.
I do feel there should have been more security at this event and see a possible case here, we shall see how it plays out.