Gamers Nexus Calls Out Tom’s Hardware for Their “Just Buy It” RTX 2080 Article

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I saw the editorial pop up yesterday. Felt like a massive blowjob offer from Tom"s Harware to nvidia.

It's no wonder I never rely on that shit.

Another obligated meme:
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Not sure if this more of a gimick like Hairworks or Physix but I don't buy the like of Tom's Hardware telling me "Just buy the damn thing."
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I'm not shelling out $1100 for a part that last year was $700.
Shills or no shills.
Fuck Tom's Hardware
 
Not to long ago there were articles of overstock of current cards. Now Nvidia is trying to sell new (expensive) cards ahead of the massive price drops that should be coming, by an means necessary. This article: "oh you want an article about per-ordering your new cards Nvidia? Here is the most satirical article I can write that still looks good enough to fool everyone into thinking it is not satire"
 
trparky said:
I just watched a video from Hardware Unboxed and one of the users that watch them, The Crazy Old Coot, asked if nVidia was going to provide a jar of Vaseline with each RTX 20XX card. It would be very much appreciated if nVidia did.

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So after watching this video, these guys are predicting a "modest" increase of around 20% over the current 1080 and 1080 Ti. As best as I can remember, Nvidia has never done this thing where you can pre-order cards and the actual ship date as less than one month away is announced however reviewers don't have any cards to review. If I take my tin foil hat off I wonder if these 2000 cards really aren't that much better than the 1000 cards aside from Ray Tracing and once reviews do come out and show this, prices will plummet which is why they're prices sky high now. Man if that turns out to be true, we gamers seriously need to riot or something.
 
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So after watching this video, these guys are predicting a "modest" increase of around 20% over the current 1080 and 1080 Ti. As best as I can remember, Nvidia has never done this thing where you can pre-order cards and the actual ship date as less than one month away is announced however reviewers don't have any cards to review. If I take my tin foil hat off I wonder if these 2000 cards really aren't that much better than the 1000 cards aside from Ray Tracing and once reviews do come out and show this, prices will plummet which is why they're prices sky high now. Man if that turns out to be true, we gamers seriously need to riot or something.
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Why riot? If you're stupid/have disposable income enough to pay the extra $200 on top of the already crazy price, just to have the latest and greatest shiney (value be damned), I don't think you're gonna care too much.

As much as I will bitch about the price, nVidia have been really smart here; pre-order are flying out the door for huge amounts of money, their overstocked 10xx series cards now look like even better value (which will help them shift), and when/if they drop their 20xx prices in how ever long, they will mop up the rest of us more value oriented types. No one is forcing anyone to buy a $1200 GPU. But if even ten people are willing to pay that, you're just throwing money away not offering it for that to begin with.

It's not like they have to worry about any competition from AMD.
 
griff30 said:
Not sure if this more of a gimick like Hairworks or Physix but I don't buy the like of Tom's Hardware telling me "Just buy the damn thing."
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I'm not shelling out $1100 for a part that last year was $700.
Shills or no shills.
Fuck Tom's Hardware
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you are killing me with the meme.. i started choking thx..:)
 
ghostwich said:
"When you die and your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?"
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I would be quite sad if a large part of my life flashing by would be wasted playing games.
 
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When you have a corporation... a Media corporation... that has the ability to "narrate the directive" you are going to get this type of spin doctoring/marketing schemes going on. This type of marketing is being (probably) paid for in several different ways.

I will only state one of the easiest methods of "favorable" reporting.... Advertisements.

Example:
A large corporation,... lets just say a "AAA" gaming corporation will go and buy up ad space on a Video Gaming reporting site months in advance before the game comes out. Do you think that reporting site is going to ding that video game that is being pushed? Nope. This is why I never trust any Major Video Gaming reporting site, because I believe that are essentially have been bought out. That is just one of different methods of corporations using their buying power to get favorable results on product in question.


I think this that this site And/or the Media corporation that runs Tom's probably was given a "gift" of some sort.

Nvidia is "Pushing the Narrative" for people to Pre-Order hard in any method possible. This is of concern. Another piece of marketing hiding something I suspected months ago.

Gamer Nexus is right to call out this marketing ploy.
 
I really hope amd picks up this dropped ball and delivers. They could take back quite a bit of the market if they did.
 
oldmanbal said:
I wouldn't say ananand sold out per say, he literally just sold the business many years ago.
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It was at that moment when I stopped relying on AT for just about everything. Johan De Gelas still puts out some interesting Enterprise articles but they are WAY too few and far between.
 
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It was at that moment when I stopped relying on AT for just about everything. Johan De Gelas still puts out some interesting Enterprise articles but they are WAY too few and far between.
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AT still has some of (if not the) most comprehensive hardware reviews available online today. While they often come out at much later dates than the competition, they make up for it in content and consistency. I'll admit however, that their lack of clickbaity content on their frontpage has hurt them since daily tech shut down and they removed it's meta news from their frontpage. I used to check AT everyday, much like I did [H], to see if they had any new content, and if not, I clicked on a few dailytech articles and read about current tech events that I might otherwise not really be looking into.

Back to the topic however, Toms was one of the first, if not the most egregious hardware sites to turn itself into an add infested cesspool of average content. They clearly chose monetary compensation over user experience, which I just can't support. Burying your content under adds and popups does not make for a good experience.
 
oldmanbal said:
AT still has some of (if not the) most comprehensive hardware reviews available online today. While they often come out at much later dates than the competition, they make up for it in content and consistency. I'll admit however, that their lack of clickbaity content on their frontpage has hurt them since daily tech shut down and they removed it's meta news from their frontpage. I used to check AT everyday, much like I did [H], to see if they had any new content, and if not, I clicked on a few dailytech articles and read about current tech events that I might otherwise not really be looking into.

Back to the topic however, Toms was one of the first, if not the most egregious hardware sites to turn itself into an add infested cesspool of average content. They clearly chose monetary compensation over user experience, which I just can't support. Burying your content under adds and popups does not make for a good experience.
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Keep in mind that Tom sold the site before it turned into a cesspool if memory serves. It was also the case with Anand and anandtech although Anand stayed on in a reduced capacity for a while after selling which probably slowed down the degeneration of the site.

I personally haven't gone near Tom's for a long time so I don't even know what it's like anymore and haven't done anything with Anandtech either. I primarily went to Anandtech for the more in-depth articles regarding the ins and outs of architectures. Once Anand left those articles dried up or at least weren't much worth reading compared to the older articles.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
They're two generations behind and not shipping current technology, and they're going to make up that in one leap?

The only dropped ball here is the one that AMD never picks up.
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I own AMD stock and I can very easily say ^^^ yup... said it perfectly.

This situation with Price is actually 50% AMD fault. AMD doesn't have anything that can compete right now so NVIDIA can and is doing this "ummm ok F everyone you will pay what we want you to pay". When competition gets closer you will see NVIDIA have to reign its behavior (hopefully). But right now, honesly they can do whatever the F they want.
 
Tom's hardware has been a shitshow ever since Dr Pabst gave up editorial control in the early 2000's.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that time they got caught getting paid for favorable reviews. I guess SEO is a bitch.
 
Who ACTUALLY uses Tom's Hardware for reviews anymore?

When did they actually become relevant again?
 
SmokeRngs said:
Keep in mind that Tom sold the site before it turned into a cesspool if memory serves. It was also the case with Anand and anandtech although Anand stayed on in a reduced capacity for a while after selling which probably slowed down the degeneration of the site.

I personally haven't gone near Tom's for a long time so I don't even know what it's like anymore and haven't done anything with Anandtech either. I primarily went to Anandtech for the more in-depth articles regarding the ins and outs of architectures. Once Anand left those articles dried up or at least weren't much worth reading compared to the older articles.
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From what I recall, Dr Tom removed from editorial duties on the site long before he actually sold it. Early 2000's some time. It wasn't bad in the late 90's, early 2000's though.

I actually read Toms back then before I discovered HardOCP. Once I discovered this place there was no going back though.
 
Jim Kim said:
Unbelievable.
TH's new motto "Thou does not say bad things about our shilling."
Dr. Thomas Pabst is rolling over in his grave.
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Dr Tom Pabst isn't dead. He just returned to practicing medicine :p (or something like that)

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, they got caught doing this nonsense before, years ago, (I want to say ~2006 maybe?) but everyone has forgotten about it. There was essentially proof that Tomshardware was receiving payments for positive reviews.

I can't even find any mention of it anymore. I'm guessing the owners paid a ton of money to some search engine optimization firm to bury it.
 
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