AMD Launches B450 Chipset for Socket AM4

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AMD Launches B450 Chipset for Socket AM4

AMD has a new chipset that will further leverage the AM4 socket and every Ryzen CPU produced, however not some to the fullest. The differences between the B450 and the B350 are small at best. However, like the B350 the new B450 based boards are certainly shooting for the budget system arena and will likely do well there.

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Kyle, if you do a review of any of these, PLEASE include a 2400g test. It seems the board partners are really cutting back on iGPU overclocking.
 
Hilbert over at Guru3D has 2 reviews up and both the boards were able to reach 4,2GHz OC with the stock cooler. Doubt it would be any better on X470.
 
The_Edge said:
Hilbert over at Guru3D has 2 reviews up and both the boards were able to reach 4,2GHz OC with the stock cooler. Doubt it would be any better on X470.
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Running what loads and for how long?
 
I have a bad feeling that sticking with AM4 is going to keep them from adding additional PCI-E lanes to the CPU or upgrading the chipset to support PCI-E 3.0.

Do people really upgrade their CPU and stick with the same motherboard that often anymore?
 
Good stuff.. Maybe I will be able to make the move to AM4 in 2019 and retire the FX-6300. (at a decent, budget-minded price)
 
lucidrenegade said:
I have a bad feeling that sticking with AM4 is going to keep them from adding additional PCI-E lanes to the CPU or upgrading the chipset to support PCI-E 3.0.

Do people really upgrade their CPU and stick with the same motherboard that often anymore?
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Keep in mind that when the socket lasts longer it allows for much better mix and match options. Think of it this way, if you have a CPU sitting around you don't really need anymore but someone needs a system built you can still toss that CPU into different motherboards, newer or older. It's not just about what you want/need right now.

Beyond that you may have a system already built and want a newer CPU but the motherboard you're using doesn't need an upgrade. You can keep everything you have and swap out only the CPU. It can also be the other way around. You might need a feature from a newer motherboard but have no need or desire to upgrade the CPU and you can do that.

It's all about flexibility.
 
lucidrenegade said:
I have a bad feeling that sticking with AM4 is going to keep them from adding additional PCI-E lanes to the CPU or upgrading the chipset to support PCI-E 3.0.

Do people really upgrade their CPU and stick with the same motherboard that often anymore?
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I have for myself and others for AMD builds. Buy a better board with your budget now and move the top cpu later since the socket is supported longer. This was the case for Am3+ anyway. Also I did put a phenom 2 quad on an AM2+ board at one point.

My current personal box is flagship board and midrange cpu on AM4 so. I’ll do it again.

Intel changes sockets so often I advise most to build the best you can get and start saving for a new platform.

To me, as of now there are 2 mainstream Intel builds worth doing. Obviously new cpus inbound so this may change soon.

8400 and cheap board or Yolo on the 8700k and a high end board. Both can be used for some time and rebuild the whole thing in a few years. Probably 4 chipset changes later for Intel. ;)
 
yeah on am3+ I started with a 4100 and got a 8120 2 years later. with intel it would have been new board time, prob ram too.
 
lucidrenegade said:
I have a bad feeling that sticking with AM4 is going to keep them from adding additional PCI-E lanes to the CPU or upgrading the chipset to support PCI-E 3.0.

Do people really upgrade their CPU and stick with the same motherboard that often anymore?
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I'm a 2600K hold-out.. :D (Gonna frame this CPU and put it on my wall)
 
I ended up with a B350 board because it was more stable than the x370’s at the time. It’s been really awesome so far and I may get a x470 soon.
 
I only saw some B450 boards that looked promising.
AsRock B450 ITX (except the CPU VRM doesn't look good)
Asus Strix B450-F
Asus Strix B450-I (except the SoC VRM looks like crap)
Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro
MSI B450 Pro Carbon
MSI B450 Tomahawk

Yay, another round of zero decent mATX AM4 boards.
 
That board does look good. I did a build on the B350 Mortar with a 1700 and it held 3.8Ghz all day at 1.35v so really good value there. Also wanted a monster mATX AM4 board but we only got the TR4 Asrock which is pretty beastly for a smaller workstation but where is the Gene board Asus!??

Always loved those.
 
The new GB B450 Aorus board failed miserably in Hardware Unboxed's testing. Will be interested to see the [H] results.
 
So is the consensus that the '4' series chipsets and 2xxx Ryzens and current Bios' don't require B-die to hit 3200, but only for 3600 and/or tight timings? Ripjaws et.al is still a bit cheaper than flareX.
 
Ruiner said:
So is the consensus that the '4' series chipsets and 2xxx Ryzens and current Bios' don't require B-die to hit 3200, but only for 3600 and/or tight timings? Ripjaws et.al is still a bit cheaper than flareX.
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Buildzoid was able to get E-die to run at 3200 mhz with good timings on a 2400g, which is really Ryzen 1.
 
Chimpee said:
Feel like that is best matx for B450 chipset, but I feel you, was hoping an matx X470 this time around.
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I just really don't get it. A person can get a really awesome mini-ITX board in X470. There's no reason why they can't offer a mATX.

Kyle, any chance you guys could run this thing through it's paces?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

It sounds good on paper. Decent heatsinks for VRM cooling, Crossfire support, plenty of USB ports, good m.2 placement.

I'm planning my next build using the new Corsair 280X case.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Crystal-Series-280X-RGB/p/CC-9011137-WW
 
sboucher said:
I just really don't get it. A person can get a really awesome mini-ITX board in X470. There's no reason why they can't offer a mATX.

Kyle, any chance you guys could run this thing through it's paces?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

It sounds good on paper. Decent heatsinks for VRM cooling, Crossfire support, plenty of USB ports, good m.2 placement.

I'm planning my next build using the new Corsair 280X case.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Crystal-Series-280X-RGB/p/CC-9011137-WW
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How are you going to run crossfire when those PCIe x16 slots are top and bottom? You would need a 5 slot mATX case or hack away at the GPU's bracket to get the second card to fit.
 
sboucher said:
I just really don't get it. A person can get a really awesome mini-ITX board in X470. There's no reason why they can't offer a mATX.

Kyle, any chance you guys could run this thing through it's paces?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

It sounds good on paper. Decent heatsinks for VRM cooling, Crossfire support, plenty of USB ports, good m.2 placement.

I'm planning my next build using the new Corsair 280X case.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Crystal-Series-280X-RGB/p/CC-9011137-WW
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Pretty pricey mATX case, though it does look better than the Air 240, but I find it weird there is no rubber grommets on the lower compartments.
 
MrDeaf said:
How are you going to run crossfire when those PCIe x16 slots are top and bottom? You would need a 5 slot mATX case or hack away at the GPU's bracket to get the second card to fit.
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I wasn't actually planning on running multi-gpu. Was just pointing out specs on the board. Good catch though.

Chimpee said:
Pretty pricey mATX case, though it does look better than the Air 240, but I find it weird there is no rubber grommets on the lower compartments.
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True, but don't care :) I was originally going to go the Air 240 route, until I saw the 280x. Currently housed in an Air 540, but want to go smaller for my next build. Not sure what you mean on the grommets.
 
sboucher said:
True, but don't care :) I was originally going to go the Air 240 route, until I saw the 280x. Currently housed in an Air 540, but want to go smaller for my next build. Not sure what you mean on the grommets.
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Oh, the divider that separates the chambers, the lower part of the divider doesn't have the rubber to pass thru your cables compare to the upper part of the divider.
 
Chimpee said:
Oh, the divider that separates the chambers, the lower part of the divider doesn't have the rubber to pass thru your cables compare to the upper part of the divider.
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Ah, I see what you mean. The top ones too actually.

Been researching that case a little more. Sounds like those glass panels are restricting air flow too much. I'm back to the drawing board.. maybe stick go with Air 240 instead.

Too bad no [H] review on it.. <wink> <wink> <nudge> <nudge>
 
sboucher said:
Ah, I see what you mean. The top ones too actually.

Been researching that case a little more. Sounds like those glass panels are restricting air flow too much. I'm back to the drawing board.. maybe stick go with Air 240 instead.

Too bad no [H] review on it.. <wink> <wink> <nudge> <nudge>
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If you do get an Air 240, it doesn't like tall cards. I learned it the hard way by having a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z that is 279 x 140 x 42mm, being a 140mm tall card is too tall for the Air 240. I ended up getting a Meshify C Mini for the GPU.

Edit, also reading the Corsair forums, 130mm height seems to be the limit, but I imagine your power connectors will push against the side panels.
 
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Chimpee said:
If you do get an Air 240, it doesn't like tall cards. I learned it the hard way by having a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z that is 279 x 140 x 42mm, being a 140mm tall card is too tall for the Air 240. I ended up getting a Meshify C Mini for the GPU.

Edit, also reading the Corsair forums, 130mm height seems to be the limit, but I imagine your power connectors will push against the side panels.
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I was actually leaning heavily towards the Meshify Mini C now. Thanks for the heads up!
 
sboucher said:
I was actually leaning heavily towards the Meshify Mini C now. Thanks for the heads up!
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Nice, though as a owner of a Meshify C Mini, my biggest gripe is the removal of the front panel was a pain in the butt since it is attached to the front IO. On a side note, if you plan to mount an AIO in the front, 280mm length card is the probably the max you can install unless you have slim fans or slim radiator and I am not sure if this is a plus or minus for you, the tempered glass is pretty dark, so if you like to look at your components, this may not be the case for you. I think you should also check out the NZXT H400 or Phanteks Evolv for considerations.
 
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