Intel Core i9-9900K Shows Up in 3DMark Time Spy, Beats the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

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Intel’s upcoming flagship CPU has appeared on 3DMark Time Spy’s database: the Core i9-9900K manages a CPU-only score of 10,719 and combined score of 9,862 with the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti. That’s about 1.1x higher than an overclocked AMD Ryzen 7 2700X running at 4.4 GHz on all cores.

For perspective, in CPU-only tests (according to Guru3D's benchmarks), the Core i7-8700K scores 7918 points while the Ryzen 7 2700X scores 9,147 points without overclock. With a CPU-only score of 10,719, the Core i9-9900K offers a significant performance advantage.
 
Good show from Intel. Let's see what pricing is like, what the platform is like. Zen 2 is less than a year away, I'm looking forward to AMD's response to this chip. If it's an uncompromising beast, it'll do very well. I'm also going to be very interested in what, if any, additional mitigations for Spectre it has compared to SKL and KBL.
 
bos said:
Significant performance advantage......at probably 2x the cost. Plus a cooler.
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First that came to mind for me too. Would be a good upgrade from my 6850k but wont be worth the money if youre right.
 
workshop35 said:
First that came to mind for me too. Would be a good upgrade from my 6850k but wont be worth the money if youre right.
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2700x can already be had in the 280-290 range if you grab it on sale or part of a combo. I expect we'll see that will drop to $250 shortly before Intel's launch, especially since the 2600x is already regularly in the $180-190 range these days. That said I'll upgrade to zen 2 or whatever's after that since I already have a 2600x.
 
Toothpaste or solder under its IHS?

If it's solder, then bravo, Intel.

If it's paste, then I'll keep my sights SOLELY set on Zen or Zen2 for my next PC overhaul.
 
amd or intel....

humm I choose ROadrunner

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Glad Intel managed to get a higher 3dMark score. Hopefully that also shows up as a 15% increase over the 8700K in real world tasks too.
So will Intel be pricing the I9-9900K at or around $300 like the 2700x currently is selling for?

Currently I'm seeing I7-7820X priced at or around $400.00. If the I9-9900K is going to replace this sku part, will Intel also be dropping the price on this sku to better compete with AMD's 2700x part, which is likely within 10%~15% [edit; I intended this to be clearer in meaning 10~15% of I9-9900K] (when using the standard clocks and boost profile for the chip) of performance for 75% of the purchase cost?

Of course if they drop the price to better compete. Intel will be forced to drop lower end processors in this new group further and will end up with price compression in their market segments which might make it difficult for their higher margin lower end processors to continue selling as well over their mid-range segments.

Lots of tough choices for Intel it would seem.

On the other hand, AMD might just have to fill in their SKU with a new flagship Ryzen 2800/2900x segment that already has a nice price segment at around $400.00.
Or maybe they just wait til February for the Ryzen3 / Zen2 group to re-take the performance crown
 
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DejaWiz said:
Hopefully...but this is likely a pre-release BIOS, so there's no way to be sure unless Intel provides full disclosure/confirmation of the configuration used during this test.
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I was wondering the same thing. New bios and all windows stuff applied?
I guess when it releases and is tested from a non Intel source, we will know.
 
CVNet1 said:
So will Intel be pricing the I9-9900K at or around $300 like the 2700x currently is selling for?

Currently I'm seeing I7-7820X priced at or around $400.00. If the I9-9900K is going to replace this sku part, will Intel also be dropping the price on this sku to better compete with AMD's 2700x part
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Do you live in a parallel universe with a different Intel than I do? :)
 
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Do you live in a parallel universe with a different Intel than I do? :)
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Nope, not a different universe.
Not expecting Intel to lower prices at all really. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the I9 badge requires a price north of $500~ for the Intel market segmentation team.
Just making a point really about how much better overall value can be had for slightly less maximum performance which most will never notice given their specific usage cases and usage profiles.
 
If this comes in at $500 ot less, I am buying to replace my 4400 non k. I have it paired up with a 1080ti.
 
Hmm interesting times indeed.

This looks like a nice release from intel but the pricing it going to he a huge factor.

With AMD launching Zen 2 in about 6 months and AM4 compatible I wonder if we will see another chipset past the 470.

My Gut is telling me better to do a new build in January.
 
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I expecting pricing on that to be around $500-700. i7's are going to be in that $300-400 range.

That's a lot of cheddar for barely 10% gains.
 
I'd be shocked if this was anywhere near $400. $600-700 is what i'm thinking this thing will run. Looks good on paper thought and the supposed soldered ihs would be a nice touch.
 
You guys really think >$500? I feel like even at $500 it's not going to do very well, when the 2700x is $330 and the 8700k is $350.

If the 9700k "replaces" the the 8700k, the 9900k at $450 kinda makes sense, and if this is considered the new flagship and replaces the 8700k, then $350 makes sense.

$600 seems like it's in doomed to fail territory.

Just my guess.
 
DejaWiz said:
That's a good point. S/M patches would likely reduce the Intel performance by the usual 20-30%
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That's only really impactful on specific tasks. While I agree getting that patch is critical... it's impact on render speeds I would expect to be neglible. But then again I haven't seen before and after benchmarks with it in place.
 
CVNet1 said:
Nope, not a different universe.
Not expecting Intel to lower prices at all really. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the I9 badge requires a price north of $500~ for the Intel market segmentation team.
Just making a point really about how much better overall value can be had for slightly less maximum performance which most will never notice given their specific usage cases and usage profiles.
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No chance of that, anyone buying one of these will be taking it up the ass to say the least, when reviews are out i very much doubt the gap between it and the 2700x will be much at all, or at the very least, enough to warrant the price tag differential.
 
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Looks like it's time to upgrade the ol' Plex box, at least Intel seems to care about including a GPU with more than 4 cores.
 
ND40oz said:
Looks like it's time to upgrade the ol' Plex box, at least Intel seems to care about including a GPU with more than 4 cores.
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You don't have an old Quadro 400 laying around? I thought we all had one of these.

After O/S install, my server is headless. CLI and RDP for the rest of those duties.
 
It's ironic. Apple trying to get away from Intel. Intel continues to perform/price like Apple. Meanwhile those in the know, jumping ship to AMD.
 
alxlwson said:
You don't have an old Quadro 400 laying around? I thought we all had one of these.

After O/S install, my server is headless. CLI and RDP for the rest of those duties.
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mITX board and a PC-Q25 case, only one PCIe slot that my 9265-8i uses. It runs headless for the most part but I do need the ability to get to a console every once and while. Plus Plex can use quick sync now, which is a nice bonus.
 
ZeqOBpf6 said:
You guys really think >$500? I feel like even at $500 it's not going to do very well, when the 2700x is $330 and the 8700k is $350.

If the 9700k "replaces" the the 8700k, the 9900k at $450 kinda makes sense, and if this is considered the new flagship and replaces the 8700k, then $350 makes sense.

$600 seems like it's in doomed to fail territory.

Just my guess.
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they're replacing them as flagship processors, they're not replacing the processors though.. this is just adding onto what they already have since they're 8 core processors on z370 platform vs the 6 core processors that are the 8700/8600 on the same platform. now if they come out with 6 core 9000 series models those will replace the 8700k/8600 but doubt it.
 
N4CR said:
10% isn't 'significant', it's pathetic considering the clock advantage and no doubt twice the price.
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At least twice the price. But they actually used SOLDER this time after all their excuses about cracks etc instead of their usual toothpaste tim. So obviously 2x the price is worthwhile. :cautious:
 
Shouldn't this be compared to a 2700x system with a 1080ti? This was compared to the guru3d systems with a GTX 1080. Honestly do not know if it makes a difference in the CPU score.
 
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