First Impressions of the Dell UP3218K "8K" Monitor

bigbluefe said:
What the fuck are you talking about?

The Next Generation was shot on 35mm film, and the budget for each episode was $1.3 million, among the largest for a one-hour television drama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation

Why do you think the original TNG Blurays are 1080p? They couldn't have been 1080p if they had been shot on video tape.
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bigbluefe said:
Oh and DS9 was shot on 35mm too.

They'd have to redo the special effects, but they already did it for TNG.
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Well Piss on me! :) My mistake. That happens when you make assumptions without fact checking. Bought my TNG sets back in '03-'04 on DVD and just assumed they were done on tape. Haven't kept up with releases since I made that assumption but now that you have pointed out the TNG is out on Blu-ray I'll have to look into replacing my DVD sets. Already have all the movies, TOS and Enterprise on Blu-ray. Wonder if ST:V and DS9 will ever be released on Blu-ray?

Thanks for correcting me without making me look like and ass! :D

EDIT: And poke me in the eye with a stick... The complete TNG series on Blu-ray is $37 cheaper than what I paid for the first season on DVD! Need to order soon...
 
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RedWagnum said:
Well Piss on me! :) My mistake. That happens when you make assumptions without fact checking. Bought my TNG sets back in '03-'04 on DVD and just assumed they were done on tape. Haven't kept up with releases since I made that assumption but now that you have pointed out the TNG is out on Blu-ray I'll have to look into replacing my DVD sets. Already have all the movies, TOS and Enterprise on Blu-ray. Wonder if ST:V and DS9 will ever be released on Blu-ray?

Thanks for correcting me without making me look like and ass! :D

EDIT: And poke me in the eye with a stick... The complete TNG series on Blu-ray is $37 cheaper than what I paid for the first season on DVD! Need to order soon...
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I read that DS9 is unlikely to get the same treatment as TNG because the TNG Bluray set apparently sold really poorly, and it probably wouldn't be worth the cash to re-do all the special effects for DS9.
 
Just to add some more information to my earlier notes on driving this with a Quadro P600 card.

So, I accepted that 8k with the P600 is "not supported" -- and moreover, that it didn't appear to work in practice. I went out and bought a Geforce 1060 card with two DisplayPort outputs. After plugging it all in and installing the Geforce drivers, I was successfully able to get 8k.

Then, to test something, I unplugged the two DisplayPort cables from the Geforce 1060, plugged *one* of them into the P600, and rebooted. It came up in 8k resolution! I didn't really believe it at first, I checked and rechecked the cables and squinted at the screen, but I'm certain of it -- the screen is running 8k (though only 30Hz refresh) from the Quadro P600 card. Somehow, installing the Geforce drivers seems to have unlocked the feature that allows the P600 to do this resolution. So possibly I didn't need to buy the Geforce card at all, just install the Geforce drivers on the system? I am not sure whether the Geforce and Quadro drivers coexist, or whether the Geforce driver has overwritten the Quadro one and ended up driving both video cards. (They are both Pascal series GPUs.)

Unfortunately the monitor itself has a fault so I will have to send it back, but when I get a replacement I will experiment some more. I'd prefer to stick with Quadro cards if I can; they have four DP outputs leaving room to drive lots of other screens at the same time.
 
bigbluefe said:
I read that DS9 is unlikely to get the same treatment as TNG because the TNG Bluray set apparently sold really poorly, and it probably wouldn't be worth the cash to re-do all the special effects for DS9.
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That's okay by me. To me DS9 was just kind of meh until the Dominion war started. But I really liked Voyager and would pick that up on Blu-ray if it becomes available in HD.
 
bigbluefe said:
I read that DS9 is unlikely to get the same treatment as TNG because the TNG Bluray set apparently sold really poorly, and it probably wouldn't be worth the cash to re-do all the special effects for DS9.
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where's your source? what's the link?
 
Some notes on the fault I observed with my UP3218K.

A horizontal strip about an inch high towards the bottom left corner of the display shows 'washed out'. Black and white are okay there but colours appear only partly saturated. See the two attached photos of the Windows login screen; its usual blue colour changes to a kind of grey-blue along the bottom left. This happens both at 8k resolution and when I drop down to 4k; it happens with two different video cards (the new one and a Quadro P600); and it happens in both portrait and landscape rotation, with the same physical area of the screen affected.

If I look from very close up with the naked eye I can see a kind of stippling effect, where only every alternate line of colour pixels appears. That would explain why seen from further back it looks like the colour saturation is reduced.

This appears to be heat sensitive - it doesn't happen when the monitor is cool, but a few minutes after switching it on I can see the corner of the screen start to fade. It's a loose connection of some kind -- some kind of plasticky edge-connector round the outside of the panel, I think. If I squeeze the corner of the screen against the back of the case, the screen recovers. I did that a couple of times and it seems to be holding out so far.

I've seen similar heat-driven faults with a UP2715K (Dell's 5k monitor, which preceded this one). In that case it seemed to resolve itself as the monitor aged, so I'm hoping.
 
Happy Hopping said:
I have been waiting for a few years for ST:TNG on 4K, clearly they are not doing it. So I save the $ for DS9 and voyager, as I have them on DVD, and there is no chance for them to go to blu-ray. So I imagine I would buy ST"TNG in blu-ray this Xmas
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The digital resolving resolution of 35mm can be anywhere from "6K" to "12K" depending on the quality of the film and camera used. But companies don't usually transfer television series to 4K. I can't think of any that have been off the top of my head. There may not be a market for it. I imagine a series as long as TNG would be quite expensive on UHD Blu-Ray.
 
so forget 4K blu ray for a moment, how can they re-make X-files, Stargate Atlantis into Bu-ray and yet Star Trek: Voyager, Star Trek DS9 is still in DVD?
 
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