Solus Linux

Vermillion said:
Yep and it really does make a HUGE difference. Time to swap the 32GB RAM from the 7470 to the 7270. ;)
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32Gb? What sort of work are you doing on the laptop? I've never come close to full with my 16Gb.
 
B00nie said:
32Gb? What sort of work are you doing on the laptop? I've never come close to full with my 16Gb.
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some VM type stuff but it's really because our vendor made a mistake and sent me two 16GB chips instead of two 8GB chips. ;)
 
When it comes to displays, it's not just resolution that's important. I use two 1929 x 1200 IPS HP EliteDisplays and the quality of their IPS panels is astounding when compared to the more commonly used TN 1820 x 1080 panels, the picture quality is just so good. I can't go back to TN panels now and I can't stand 16:9 panels for PC use.
 
Mazzspeed said:
When it comes to displays, it's not just resolution that's important. I use two 1929 x 1200 IPS HP EliteDisplays and the quality of their IPS panels is astounding when compared to the more commonly used TN 1820 x 1080 panels, the picture quality is just so good. I can't go back to TN panels now and I can't stand 16:9 panels for PC use.
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I have an Acer 27" 144hz monitor and while its fast it just lacks the contrast and image quality. For playing games it's ok but for any other work, horrible.
 
B00nie said:
I have an Acer 27" 144hz monitor and while its fast it just lacks the contrast and image quality. For playing games it's ok but for any other work, horrible.
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if I had the money i'd go for a 144hz IPS panel. It's hard to jump in price from the $360 display I have to what would be a $1000 monitor here in Canada to get the best of both worlds. What I did do though was pounce on a deal at work to get an HP E221i for $25 as a secondary monitor. It's an IPS panel although an old one.
 
Simmonz said:
if I had the money i'd go for a 144hz IPS panel. It's hard to jump in price from the $360 display I have to what would be a $1000 monitor here in Canada to get the best of both worlds. What I did do though was pounce on a deal at work to get an HP E221i for $25 as a secondary monitor. It's an IPS panel although an old one.
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Heh, when I bought the monitor there were no such thing as a 144hz IPS. Quite soon after buying the monitor I abandoned the gaming completely so it was just a waste of money.
 
You'll have to pry my 1920 x 1200 IPS 24" panels out of my cold, dead hands. They're probably around 10 years old now and still crystal clear, by far one of the best purchases I ever made.

Not in any way interested in 144Hz TBH. ;)
 
Mazzspeed said:
You'll have to pry my 1920 x 1200 IPS 24" panels out of my cold, dead hands. They're probably around 10 years old now and still crystal clear, by far one of the best purchases I ever made.

Not in any way interested in 144Hz TBH. ;)
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144hz makes a world of difference in fps games. Just another level of smoothness.
 
B00nie said:
144hz makes a world of difference in fps games. Just another level of smoothness.
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I'm sure it does, but 60Hz and a quality IPS panel cover everything I need just fine. I don't have a problem with the smoothness of 60Hz, gaming is just but one use of a well equipped PC and the IQ of these panels impresses me more than any perceived difference dragging windows around my desktop at 144Hz while looking through a letterbox slot at 16:9.
 
Mazzspeed said:
I'm sure it does, but 60Hz and a quality IPS panel cover everything I need just fine. I don't have a problem with the smoothness of 60Hz, gaming is just but one use of a well equipped PC and the IQ of these panels impresses me more than any perceived difference dragging windows around my desktop at 144Hz while looking through a letterbox slot at 16:9.
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I keep my windows boxes solely for gaming use. Everything else happens either on mac or linux.
 
I can't begin to talk the praises of Solus Linux on Plasma. Especially on this Precision 5510. I used to play FFXI a decade+ ago and a bunch of my friends who I played with found Realms of Jova. So I fired up WINE and FFXI on Jova is running beautifully. Solus Plasma is pure quality even though it isn't officially released yet (I have access due to being a Patreon). Can't wait to for it to presumably be launched alongside Solus 4.
 

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I can't begin to talk the praises of Solus Linux on Plasma. Especially on this Precision 5510. I used to play FFXI a decade+ ago and a bunch of my friends who I played with found Realms of Jova. So I fired up WINE and FFXI on Jova is running beautifully. Solus Plasma is pure quality even though it isn't officially released yet (I have access due to being a Patreon). Can't wait to for it to presumably be launched alongside Solus 4.
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This is amazing, I'm totally doing that. Is your name a call back to the cloak?
 
I was looking around and found someone that claims they got Plasma working on the stable Solus release currently available and made this post about it at the Solus forums:

So: First I installed Solus Budgie and updated it.
Then I installed all the plasma packages through the terminal:

Code: 
sudo eopkg install systemsettings plasma-browser-integration-dbginfo sddm-kcm khotkeys-devel plasma-desktop-branding sddm-kcm-dbginfo plasma-framework-dbginfo krunner-devel plasma-workspace-dbginfo plasma-redshift-control latte-dock-dbginfo print-manager-dbginfo khotkeys-dbginfo plasma-pa-dbginfo latte-dock oxygen-devel plasma-desktop-dbginfo plasma-nm plasma-framework-devel kwin breeze plasma-framework kmenuedit-dbginfo adapta-kde breeze-dbginfo kscreen-dbginfo powerdevil-dbginfo plasma-desktop plasma-workspace-devel plasma-desktop-devel krunner-dbginfo print-manager oxygen-sound-theme oxygen plasma-browser-integration powerdevil-devel bluedevil frameworkintegration-dbginfo kwin-devel plasma-desktop-branding-livecd plasma-sdk-dbginfo oxygen-dbginfo krunner plasma-nm-dbginfo plasma-pa frameworkintegration plasma-sdk khotkeys breeze-devel powerdevil kmenuedit kdeplasma-addons-dbginfo kwin-dbginfo kscreen plasma-integration frameworkintegration-devel kdeplasma-addons plasma-integration-dbginfo plasma-workspace

After that, I installed all KDE packages from the software center.
Coming out of Budgie I chose plasma DE.
There was a bad icon display. When I entered the settings, I selected the Papirus icons.
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0ptional said:
This is amazing, I'm totally doing that. Is your name a call back to the cloak?
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No. My name is from Robotech. All my forum and game names come from there.

Tiberian said:
I was looking around and found someone that claims they got Plasma working on the stable Solus release currently available and made this post about it at the Solus forums:
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Yeah you can do it that way if you want but then you have all the KDE dependencies on top the Gnome stuff.
 
0ptional said:
This is amazing, I'm totally doing that. Is your name a call back to the cloak?
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If you can't get FFXI running hit me up via PM. It can be a little kludgy. But it runs great under WINE (32-bit prefix is a must) and the private server Realms of Jova is awesome. All the grind is gone. It's very enjoyable. My PLD is already level 99 and powered up nicely with gear. Best time is because the grind is gone the time sink is gone too. I can do it in bits and pieces and not take time away from the wife and kids.
 
Tiny thread necro but an important one.

https://getsol.us/2018/10/27/in-full-sail/

TLDR;

Ikey had to move to England. Got sick and is now MIA. Zero contact. Solus core team had to migrate everything to new URLs and github. Don't know if Ikey OK and just abandoned everything or if something else going on.

Sadly means I'll probably go find a different distro. Not that I don't like the team now led by Josh Strobl but the reason I chose Solus of because of Ikey's vision and his thinking outside the box. For example Solus is still the only distro I know that use Clear boot manager to make kernel upgrades easier and safer. Full containment for Snaps with AppArmor. Only Ubuntu based distros have that type of functionality. Arch based distros aren't remotely close to that. But based on what is written in that post it feels more like it's going to become just another distro. So if that's what is happening then I'm better off moving to some flavor of LTS release like Ubuntu MATE or even KDE Neon since I love Plasma.

In the end I really hope Ikey is ok and simply decided on a different life path.
 
Vermillion said:
Tiny thread necro but an important one.

https://getsol.us/2018/10/27/in-full-sail/

TLDR;

Ikey had to move to England. Got sick and is now MIA. Zero contact. Solus core team had to migrate everything to new URLs and github. Don't know if Ikey OK and just abandoned everything or if something else going on.

Sadly means I'll probably go find a different distro. Not that I don't like the team now led by Josh Strobl but the reason I chose Solus of because of Ikey's vision and his thinking outside the box. For example Solus is still the only distro I know that use Clear boot manager to make kernel upgrades easier and safer. Full containment for Snaps with AppArmor. Only Ubuntu based distros have that type of functionality. Arch based distros aren't remotely close to that. But based on what is written in that post it feels more like it's going to become just another distro. So if that's what is happening then I'm better off moving to some flavor of LTS release like Ubuntu MATE or even KDE Neon since I love Plasma.

In the end I really hope Ikey is ok and simply decided on a different life path.
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While unfortunate to hear that he's gone MIA, thank you for the update here. It helps to know what's going on around us in this community.

Last I tried plasma was on Linux mint. Worked a treat! IIRC, that was LM17.

I hope him disappearing was a choice and not an unfortunate circumstance.
 
FNtastic said:
While unfortunate to hear that he's gone MIA, thank you for the update here. It helps to know what's going on around us in this community.

Last I tried plasma was on Linux mint. Worked a treat! IIRC, that was LM17.

I hope him disappearing was a choice and not an unfortunate circumstance.
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Yeah I only wish the best for Ikey and I hope he's OK. I am going to miss him one way or the other though. His passion for all this was refreshing and listening to him on podcasts explain how things work was incredibly informative because he explained it in ways that absolutely made sense to anybody listening.
 
Vermillion said:
Yeah I only wish the best for Ikey and I hope he's OK. I am going to miss him one way or the other though. His passion for all this was refreshing and listening to him on podcasts explain how things work was incredibly informative because he explained it in ways that absolutely made sense to anybody listening.
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Never listened to him, or heard of him. This update has enlightened me of him. If I get some time, I'll have to check him out
 
Check out the back catalog of the Late Night Linux podcast he was the only reason to listen when he was on it.
 
What a strange story. Hopefully the guy is alright.

Solus always concerned me a little that so much of it was driven by one person. It sounds like no one else was really trusted with the important stuff until recently. Now I get the feeling that in 6 months when he pops back up Solus and OtherSolus may both be a thing.

The idea of one person driving the bus and having a "vision" for an entire distro is tempting... but IMO I'm not sure its really a great idea in regards to a Linux distro. IMO the strength of a Linux distro is being able to have 101 bits come together to be more then any one. As I saw/see it Solus gained some overall direction at the expense of attracting a lot of talent for specific projects. Of course for commercial distros there needs to be a vision, and a bus driver. For the core free projects though... I think they are better cooked by committee.

In any event. I guess Solus is a project I'll still keep an eye on... who knows perhaps Ikey seeded something that will now get picked up by a larger development community and continue to blossem. I wish them well, I also hope they hear from their friend soon even if its just an I'm alive but need to step away thanks.
 
Aaaand...a typical Linux story. It's a mistery why it fails on desktop.
 
I like Solus, but will keep an eye on how it matures. I wondered why version 4 was not ready and this sort of explains that. One person driving development isn't much of a concern to me since Linus Trovald maintains final say on the Linux Kernel. :D :D :D
 
Chuklr said:
I like Solus, but will keep an eye on how it matures. I wondered why version 4 was not ready and this sort of explains that. One person driving development isn't much of a concern to me since Linus Trovald maintains final say on the Linux Kernel. :D :D :D
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Its a good point accept Ikey was an idea man. At this point Linus is not the guy spinning new systems nor is he actually the sole gate keeper. Years back he realized there was no way he could do it all alone... and they built systems and chains of trust. As far as the wider world is concerned he is the man... the truth is he only rubberstamps about 1% of the patch sets that make it into the kernel these days. There is no way one person could go over and approve over 10k patches every month. I could be way wrong (and hopefully Ikey is good health wise) but it seems to me he was trying to be the final say guy for basically every Solus system... and although we are not talking about 10k small changes to something like the kernel a month... maintaining all the unique Solus systems still must have been a heck of a lot of work. (even just going over all the changes submitted by others for things like Budgie / their package manager / their steam int stuff ect ect) I'm not sure it was burn out... but trying to helm all of those projects without any trusted help seems like a recipe for burnout to me.
 
Chuklr said:
I must have misread zdnet articles Linus Torvalds is back in charge of Linux and Linus Torvalds answers 5 questions in BBC letter. When I read both of these articles it seemed to me that Linus had the final say on what was included in the Linux Kernel.
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Sure he has veto power, but as his recent leave should make clear... if he vanished tomorrow to a beach somewhere things would roll on no issues. He hasn'y personally poured over every single line of code. That would be insane... and quite impossible. And the project has a very well defined power structure. That structure means most fixes and tweaks are approved without ever involving him. They call it a trust ring. The Kernel at last count has 1,681 developers most working for 225 contributing companies maintaining 25 million lines of code. Linus isn't signing off on everything personally.

Things hit the mailing list, they get discussed by the developers working on those trees... things like EXT / Btrfs / power / arm ect ect. If they make it through that gauntlet they get added to the trees for merge... and Linus pulls them for inclusion. Last I read Linus goes over about 1% of what gets merged every cycle. I mean with the number of commits every cycle even if he only took 5 min on each he would have to work more hours then there are in a day.

I don't know much about the entire Solus story. I imagine Ikey was trying to set up a healthy open source project where bugs and tweaks would be handled through the community, and he would be able to focus on new features. It sounds to me (and I could be wrong) that it may have been an extremely demanding experience. Linus had the advantage of growing over a long period of time. I'm sure the number of lines Linus was personally responsible for has been on the decline every year since day one. 1% audited by him today perhaps 10% 10 years ago... and 100% on day one. I imagine taking a full on quality distro (I have heard lots of good things about solus) from 0 to 100 in such a short time makes building those rings of trusted lieutenants hard.
 
Sounds like Linus isn't needed and the entire process should be automated. The "Trust Ring" should be trusted that all they do is good to go.
 
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Chuklr said:
Sounds like Linus isn't needed and the entire process should be automated. The "Trust Ring" should be trusted that all they do is good to go.
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For the most part he isn't needed. And yes if features pass the tree maintaining communities things do pretty much just go in. Linus in most cases doesn't even get involved in discussions about features and plans for specific aspects of the kernel. As an example if the Btrfs folks decide to add X or Y feature chances are Linus has zero input... they make the changes and push them through. Linus pulls their request... in many of those cases the people making the requests understand those bits of code far more then he does. (It added to the humor when he would rip some other engineer over their "improper" use of comments or something lol)

No one involved with the kernel was concerned that the guy was taking time off. I'm not saying he is useless or pointless... just pointing out he isn't as important to the project as many believe anymore. It isn't much different then the status Bill Gates had for the last number of years he was still working at MS.

To be honest for the last number of years Linus hasn't had a ton to do with much added to the kernel. He is a great engineer and for sure has contributed but he hasn't done any of the heavy lifting in a very long time.
 
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