Samsung Laughs at Apple’s Dongles in Latest Galaxy S9 Ads

Wasn't there a software developer fired a few years ago for talking about dongles to his friend at a conference?
 
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This is pretty funny, but who hasn't moved to Bluetooth. Apple has IQ charging now, so no dongles required. Plus, have you ever tried to call Samsung for support or get an RMA?

Then their is this....

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Samsung is getting desperate. The s9 sales numbers have been horrible. Yes, Apple uses a dongle but it has the best output of any phone aside from LG's quad DAC models and extra dongles cost only $9.

I personally went with an iPhone X because I am *done* with Android at this point. And I'm very happy with the move to Apple thus far.

Not as horrible as Iphone X sales...those in glass houses and all that.
 
wait... apple gives out free dongles with their iphones?

Yes, the headphone adaptor is included, but like the ad states, if you want to use the headphone jack and charge at the same time, you have to buy another dongle.
 
It would be nice if Samsung could make a phone that didn't come loaded down with bloatware and run like crap. Every Samsung phone I've ever owned ends up being a dog from a performance standpoint (my S7 Edge lagged so badly that I would miss calls because it wouldn't respond in time to the answer button) and it doesn't help that they allow the carriers to modify the firmware and push their own bloatware in addition to Samsung's own bloat.
I dunno in your situation but the two Samsugs I've bought ran perfectly fine, and I'm able to disable lots of stuff if I want more performance. Maybe you got lots of unnecessary background processes going on?
 
I dunno in your situation but the two Samsugs I've bought ran perfectly fine, and I'm able to disable lots of stuff if I want more performance. Maybe you got lots of unnecessary background processes going on?
Ive used the s6 active since it was released and this this is a monster. Its a great phone. Fast as hell. I game on it and the battery STILL lasts all day with heavy use.

Maybe their other phones suck but not this one!
 
All Apple did was do what they do best, aethetics and massive amounts of marketing.

You also left out that all Apple did was make smartphones truly useful and providing a web browser that delivered a near desktop experience. I had Windows Mobile HTC and Palm Treo before the iPhone. The only thing "smart" about them is they required a stylus. Email was barely functional and the web was a joke. 1/3 the UI was wasted aping desktop UI elements that were nonsensical to have on a tiny mobile screen, because tying to the desktop and Windows brand was more important to MS at the time than delivering the best mobile experience you could. If a web site wasn't optimized for WAP you could forget trying to get anything useful off of it. Apps? What are apps?

But sure, keep telling yourself that all Apple added were sparkly bits and marketing :rolleyes:

But there were plenty of "smartphones" on the market before the iPhone launched, they were just targeting them at business customers.

And they just sucked too. They were targeting them at business customers because at that time most business users didn't have a choice since their businesses would buy them for them. Most people wouldn't tolerate them or buy them on their own - because, again, the user experience SUCKED.

Note that the iPhone displaced Blackberry and all the others in corporate environments from the bottom up - users demanded them. Even in government. I never, ever thought I would see Apple anything take over in government but Blackberries are long gone and it's iPhone and Android everywhere. In the pre-iPhone days a smartphone or blackberry was the exception; now they are default.

But again it's just sparkly bits and marketing - Apple added no other value to the equation.
/s
 
Having said all that in my prior post, ditching the audio jack was a dumb ass move and Johnny Ive can suck it and his white room.
 
You also left out that all Apple did was make smartphones truly useful and providing a web browser that delivered a near desktop experience. I had Windows Mobile HTC and Palm Treo before the iPhone. The only thing "smart" about them is they required a stylus. Email was barely functional and the web was a joke. 1/3 the UI was wasted aping desktop UI elements that were nonsensical to have on a tiny mobile screen, because tying to the desktop and Windows brand was more important to MS at the time than delivering the best mobile experience you could. If a web site wasn't optimized for WAP you could forget trying to get anything useful off of it. Apps? What are apps?

But sure, keep telling yourself that all Apple added were sparkly bits and marketing :rolleyes:



And they just sucked too. They were targeting them at business customers because at that time most business users didn't have a choice since their businesses would buy them for them. Most people wouldn't tolerate them or buy them on their own - because, again, the user experience SUCKED.

Note that the iPhone displaced Blackberry and all the others in corporate environments from the bottom up - users demanded them. Even in government. I never, ever thought I would see Apple anything take over in government but Blackberries are long gone and it's iPhone and Android everywhere. In the pre-iPhone days a smartphone or blackberry was the exception; now they are default.

But again it's just sparkly bits and marketing - Apple added no other value to the equation.
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Geez, it's posts like this that scream fanboy. You're, objectively, exxaggerating and purposely deceitful as well.
 
Was never a fan of removing the 3.5mm jack, it's a proven connector and you can use just about any headset of your picking.
 
Blackberrys were great business phones, they were not great media/entertainment devices. If I could get a Blackberry now that had a decent camera and browser, and was compatible with android apps, I would. If it exists, someone please let me know. lol
 
Not as horrible as Iphone X sales...those in glass houses and all that.

Dude you need to stop getting your "news" from fanboi blogs:

"iPhone X drives Apple's 'best ever' year for smartphone sales" - Computerworld
"iPhone X: most expensive Apple smartphone sells out" - The Guardian
"iPhone X was world's best-selling smartphone in Q1" - CNet

"Apple's iPhone X is the best smartphone the company has ever made. And the iPhone X hate has gone too far." - Fortune. Freaking Fortune! If this isn't a "dogs and cat's living together" sign of the apocalypse...

Oh yeah, iPhone X sales lead Apple's second quarter too.

I'll still say it again - dropping the audio jack was dumb, dumb dumb.
 
It would be nice if Samsung could make a phone that didn't come loaded down with bloatware and run like crap. Every Samsung phone I've ever owned ends up being a dog from a performance standpoint (my S7 Edge lagged so badly that I would miss calls because it wouldn't respond in time to the answer button) and it doesn't help that they allow the carriers to modify the firmware and push their own bloatware in addition to Samsung's own bloat.

Ya, but it has 27 cores, 87GB of memory, 8K display AND a SD card slot. Who cares about user experience when you have hardware stats like THAT!
 
Apple has been so far behind with hardware now, it's ridiculous. The iphone 5 was the last good innovative phone they've made.

People acting like Apple is god because they "invented" the smartphone forget the fact that they couldn't figure out picture messages or video for the first few years. They finally were getting things at iphone 4, was pushing great features till iphone 5s.....then stagnated.

Funny how much shit (and rightfully so) that people give for the Note esplody incident...but peeps totally ignore the fact that almost every iphone has released with issues. I remember the "deathgrip" time when you couldn't get signal unless you held your phone a certain way, the bendgate incident, the iphone esplodey incidents (https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/surv...ploding-catching-fire-store/story?id=55119539), the shadey practice of planned obsolescence (https://www.vox.com/2017/12/22/16807056/apple-slow-iphone-batteries), etc.
 
She's using the wrong USB devices. ;)

You forgot the /s but I think the wink covers it.

Nothing bothers me more than when a tiny portion of a market tries to push not the standard market features. Let me replace all my devices to be compatible with USB C and absolutely nothing else in the world lol.
 
Apple has been so far behind with hardware now, it's ridiculous. The iphone 5 was the last good innovative phone they've made.

People acting like Apple is god because they "invented" the smartphone forget the fact that they couldn't figure out picture messages or video for the first few years. They finally were getting things at iphone 4, was pushing great features till iphone 5s.....then stagnated.

Funny how much shit (and rightfully so) that people give for the Note esplody incident...but peeps totally ignore the fact that almost every iphone has released with issues. I remember the "deathgrip" time when you couldn't get signal unless you held your phone a certain way, the bendgate incident, the iphone esplodey incidents (https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/surv...ploding-catching-fire-store/story?id=55119539), the shadey practice of planned obsolescence (https://www.vox.com/2017/12/22/16807056/apple-slow-iphone-batteries), etc.
How are they behind? The Apple a11 CPU is a full generation ahead of the Snapdragon 845, if not more. Look at the single threaded performance in Geekbench. It's not even close. The a11 is 90% as powerful as a full desktop Intel quad core i5 4690k.
 
Geez, it's posts like this that scream fanboy. You're, objectively, exxaggerating and purposely deceitful as well.

What am I exaggerating? And how am I being deceitful? Be specific!

As for "fanboy" - damn right I'm a fan of the iPhone - smartphones SUCKED before it. We'd still be watching people try to cram useless desktop interface elements because this mobile thing could just be a fad and we don't want people to forget that our desktop OS's are still a thing. I'm not making that up, I heard it from Microsoft from their booth at Comdex!

If it weren't for the iPhone, Android would have been a Blackberry clone. No one was considering a full-touch display phone before the iPhone. And I wasn't a fan of that when it was first announced either. One of the things I did love about my HTC Windows phone was the slider keyboard. I still would love an iPhone with a physical slider keyboard. I have even tried a few of the Android phones with the slider keyboards but they really stunk; that HTC was amazing. My first iPhone was the 3gs. I was shocked that I didn't hate the on screen keyboard as much as I assumed I was. Then I was pissed I didn't just break my Sprint contract at the time and get an iPhone earlier. Before I rarely hit my data cap; with the iPhone good thing I had the unlimited plan because I used it all the time. It was actually useful!

I'm am not a blind Apple sycophant. I started with Mac's in the 80's, but I had no problem ditching them in the 90's when they sucked. I have lots of hours on OS/2, Linux, Windows NT and Windows in general as well. When OS X got stable and resumed a lot of the feel of the original Mac that I liked I went back to it as my primary personal computing platform. If Apple started sucking again or if MS really upped their game and Windows felt better for my use, I would have no problem switching. Heck if Linux on the desktop ever became more than a science experiment I'd switch to it if the overall experience was better.

As for mobile - if Android delivered a better experience for me I'd have no problem switching from iOS to Android. Since I also use the heck out of my iPad and with Google dropping tablet support, that isn't looking good... I don't want Android to go away, though - it still serves it's purposes and also keeps Apple on their toes. I was extremely pissed when HP canned webOS. Talk about no guts. I think they could have really taken on both Apple and Google but they didn't have any spine. Now it lives on in televisions (!!)

I've switched platforms many times during my life. Heck I have a Windows box right now for gaming because games have never been a priority for Apple and lately Apple's Mac hardware has been a joke, especially when it comes to graphics.

Best tool for the job and all that. I've got just about every kind of kit running in my house right now, and I use several different platforms at work too. Why wouldn't I?

Competition is good. When people start blindly following companies for religious rather than rational reasons that's how we end up with crap like Intel and nVidia's abuses over the years.

For all the hate on Apple, the computing world would look way different today without them. They were the first computing company that really targeted normals, not geeks and nerds ("Computers for the rest of us" wasn't just a cheesy slogan). I think that's where a lot of hate comes from to this day; lots of tech people like being gatekeepers and feeling superior.

The GUI wouldn't have been popularized nearly as much without the Mac. Sure GUI's and even the mouse weren't new. But they were never packaged and exposed to the general public in an accessible and affordable way (and yes, my Mac Plus was $2400 in 1987 dollars; but compared to other computers for the capabilities at the time that was actually a good deal). MP3 players - the original iPod wasn't much to get excited over; I already had the first hard drive based MP3 player for over a year and it was pretty amazing for being the first of its kind. Far better than Creative's player. But when they added USB and Windows support, improved the click wheel, and then the whole iTunes music store ecosystem the iPod pretty much spanked everyone else - and pushed the entire market to up its game too. I mean that first Creative player really was a DOG - and a lot of the other players were pretty hideous with their industrial design too.

Speaking of USB, it languished for several years until the first iMac. It was clearly superior to serial and parallel ports but do you think the low margin PC business at the time would support anyone taking a chance on a new standard with no market of devices that utilized it?

I mean if you can honestly look at Windows mobile pre-iPhone and still insist MS wasn't just phoning it in (ha!)...

I guess the best summation of where I'm trying to go with this - the story that when the iPod was under development and Steve wanted it smaller and the designers complained it couldn't be made smaller and he tossed it in water and an air bubble came out. He pointed out if there was air in it, there was empty space and thus it could be made smaller. Whether or not that story really happened, it illustrates the relentless pursuit of excellence that often sets Apple apart, and even today few companies seem to follow. Since Job's death Apple doesn't feel like they are sweating all the details like they used to or are making more decisions for aesthetics vs. functionality (see thin "pro" notebooks, removing audio jack, a "pro" desktop with everything soldered onto the motherboard then not updating for 5 years, etc). However they still do it enough that it pushes the entire industry along, and we are all mostly better for it - whether you like or hate Apple.

The obsession over thin is going too far, even in the Windows world tho so not all influence is positive.
 
Blackberrys were great business phones, they were not great media/entertainment devices. If I could get a Blackberry now that had a decent camera and browser, and was compatible with android apps, I would. If it exists, someone please let me know. lol

Blackberry Passport. Still have one for the office since SSH sucks with an onscreen keyboard. Only supports Android apps targeted at Jellybean, however, as Google deliberately broke their emulator when it started getting popular. It runs a POSIX compliant OS (QNX) so if you are into embedded tech you can port pretty much any Linux app over without a lot of drama. It uses QT as its native GUI. They honestly have no excuses for screwing the pooch in the market, as the product was solid. They just couldn't un-Enterprise their thinking (much like IBM and the PC, really.)
 
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Samsung is getting desperate. The s9 sales numbers have been horrible. Yes, Apple uses a dongle but it has the best output of any phone aside from LG's quad DAC models and extra dongles cost only $9.

I personally went with an iPhone X because I am *done* with Android at this point. And I'm very happy with the move to Apple thus far.
Sales are down all around. Even for Apple. People are realizing that their phones are good enough.
 
What am I exaggerating? And how am I being deceitful? Be specific!

As for "fanboy" - damn right I'm a fan of the iPhone - smartphones SUCKED before it. We'd still be watching people try to cram useless desktop interface elements because this mobile thing could just be a fad and we don't want people to forget that our desktop OS's are still a thing. I'm not making that up, I heard it from Microsoft from their booth at Comdex!

If it weren't for the iPhone, Android would have been a Blackberry clone. No one was considering a full-touch display phone before the iPhone. And I wasn't a fan of that when it was first announced either. One of the things I did love about my HTC Windows phone was the slider keyboard. I still would love an iPhone with a physical slider keyboard. I have even tried a few of the Android phones with the slider keyboards but they really stunk; that HTC was amazing. My first iPhone was the 3gs. I was shocked that I didn't hate the on screen keyboard as much as I assumed I was. Then I was pissed I didn't just break my Sprint contract at the time and get an iPhone earlier. Before I rarely hit my data cap; with the iPhone good thing I had the unlimited plan because I used it all the time. It was actually useful!

I'm am not a blind Apple sycophant. I started with Mac's in the 80's, but I had no problem ditching them in the 90's when they sucked. I have lots of hours on OS/2, Linux, Windows NT and Windows in general as well. When OS X got stable and resumed a lot of the feel of the original Mac that I liked I went back to it as my primary personal computing platform. If Apple started sucking again or if MS really upped their game and Windows felt better for my use, I would have no problem switching. Heck if Linux on the desktop ever became more than a science experiment I'd switch to it if the overall experience was better.

As for mobile - if Android delivered a better experience for me I'd have no problem switching from iOS to Android. Since I also use the heck out of my iPad and with Google dropping tablet support, that isn't looking good... I don't want Android to go away, though - it still serves it's purposes and also keeps Apple on their toes. I was extremely pissed when HP canned webOS. Talk about no guts. I think they could have really taken on both Apple and Google but they didn't have any spine. Now it lives on in televisions (!!)

I've switched platforms many times during my life. Heck I have a Windows box right now for gaming because games have never been a priority for Apple and lately Apple's Mac hardware has been a joke, especially when it comes to graphics.

Best tool for the job and all that. I've got just about every kind of kit running in my house right now, and I use several different platforms at work too. Why wouldn't I?

Competition is good. When people start blindly following companies for religious rather than rational reasons that's how we end up with crap like Intel and nVidia's abuses over the years.

For all the hate on Apple, the computing world would look way different today without them. They were the first computing company that really targeted normals, not geeks and nerds ("Computers for the rest of us" wasn't just a cheesy slogan). I think that's where a lot of hate comes from to this day; lots of tech people like being gatekeepers and feeling superior.

The GUI wouldn't have been popularized nearly as much without the Mac. Sure GUI's and even the mouse weren't new. But they were never packaged and exposed to the general public in an accessible and affordable way (and yes, my Mac Plus was $2400 in 1987 dollars; but compared to other computers for the capabilities at the time that was actually a good deal). MP3 players - the original iPod wasn't much to get excited over; I already had the first hard drive based MP3 player for over a year and it was pretty amazing for being the first of its kind. Far better than Creative's player. But when they added USB and Windows support, improved the click wheel, and then the whole iTunes music store ecosystem the iPod pretty much spanked everyone else - and pushed the entire market to up its game too. I mean that first Creative player really was a DOG - and a lot of the other players were pretty hideous with their industrial design too.

Speaking of USB, it languished for several years until the first iMac. It was clearly superior to serial and parallel ports but do you think the low margin PC business at the time would support anyone taking a chance on a new standard with no market of devices that utilized it?

I mean if you can honestly look at Windows mobile pre-iPhone and still insist MS wasn't just phoning it in (ha!)...

I guess the best summation of where I'm trying to go with this - the story that when the iPod was under development and Steve wanted it smaller and the designers complained it couldn't be made smaller and he tossed it in water and an air bubble came out. He pointed out if there was air in it, there was empty space and thus it could be made smaller. Whether or not that story really happened, it illustrates the relentless pursuit of excellence that often sets Apple apart, and even today few companies seem to follow. Since Job's death Apple doesn't feel like they are sweating all the details like they used to or are making more decisions for aesthetics vs. functionality (see thin "pro" notebooks, removing audio jack, a "pro" desktop with everything soldered onto the motherboard then not updating for 5 years, etc). However they still do it enough that it pushes the entire industry along, and we are all mostly better for it - whether you like or hate Apple.

The obsession over thin is going too far, even in the Windows world tho so not all influence is positive.
The touchscreen was a great innovation. No doubt. Thatsl was what, 12 years ago. But what have they done since thats others cant? Nothing. GUI on Apple isnt good and their decisions on various products yell sketchy

Apple sales are being made because its apple fanboys cannot be wrong.
 
How are they behind? The Apple a11 CPU is a full generation ahead of the Snapdragon 845, if not more. Look at the single threaded performance in Geekbench. It's not even close. The a11 is 90% as powerful as a full desktop Intel quad core i5 4690k.
...and everything else is made by Samsung. They still run on half the memory, smaller batteries, non expandable storage, higher price, and their display isn't as great (lower PPI, etc). There really hasn't been any new features or hardware that's really anything amazing or new.
 
How smart was it.

Mine was worthless.
I miss the strangely yellowish screens that would require you to hit the same spot on the screen repeatedly. Also the key dents, don’t forget about that!
 
...and everything else is made by Samsung. They still run on half the memory, smaller batteries, non expandable storage, higher price, and their display isn't as great (lower PPI, etc). There really hasn't been any new features or hardware that's really anything amazing or new.
The iPhone X is every bit as good as anything available on the Android platform, if not better. IMO the iPhone X is the best phone on the market, hands down. And that's coming from a long time Android user.

The iPhones don't need as much RAM because their OS is more efficient. The battery has a lower mAh rating but the battery life is still about as good as Android flagships, again, because the Apple phones are more efficient. Yes, I do miss the expandable storage that I had on my Android phones. But really with all the cloud options available today, storage has become less important than it once was. I just use Spotify for my music, and I use Google Photos for unlimited cloud photo storage. I don't install a ton of apps because it tends to bog phones down and leads to poor battery life.
 
Sales are down all around. Even for Apple. People are realizing that their phones are good enough.
Well, I think the iPhone 9 is going to sell like hotcakes. The rumors are saying it will have the iPhone X design with a 6.1" screen for $699USD. And apparently the second generation iPhone X will cost $799. It might be a good time to buy some Apple stock. However my brother in law who is a banking executive tells me that we are on the cusp of a recession and he told me to keep all my assets in a high interest savings account until things shake down. So caveat emptor.
 
I believe that the problem is that Apple markets their product as 'THE Phone', 'THE Tablet', 'THE Computer', etc., their prices are way over the premium category and yet you don't get anything special for your money.
Pairing powerful hardware with a meh battery; all the useful Apps, if you have the cash, with limited storage; a seemingly allrounder device with only proprietary connector(s), dongles and almost no direct connectivity with anything but Apple devices; a multimedia device with no direct way to copy your own music or videos onto it.
Not to mention the fact that if you buy the latest iPhone from a wireless provider, you will have to pay through the nose for the service AND the phone itself. All in all, this doesn't seem like a smart choice in any way, shape or form.

I have colleagues with iPhones and iPads, but none of them could specify why, if, they think these are better than other products. Some of them even told me categorically that they bought them because of the pressure they felt from their friends, neighbors, or other parents at their kids' schools/kindergartens. Even though those people can not logically explain why anyone should buy them instead of buying something else.
That pressure alone is something that can build up into immense hatred towards Apple products. And making fun of that pressure is something Samsung/Google/etc. ads have been at for years, because it is so easy and because logical reasoning has fallen on deaf ears for years now.
 
The iPhones don't need as much RAM because their OS is more efficient. The battery has a lower mAh rating but the battery life is still about as good as Android flagships, again, because the Apple phones are more efficient. Yes, I do miss the expandable storage that I had on my Android phones. But really with all the cloud options available today, storage has become less important than it once was. I just use Spotify for my music, and I use Google Photos for unlimited cloud photo storage. I don't install a ton of apps because it tends to bog phones down and leads to poor battery life.

So is the phone really fast, powerful, and efficient, or do you just not really use it for anything?
 
I still rock a flip phone with texting and don't have a need for a phone to do anything more. Am I alone in this?
 
Uhhh... Pretty obvious what they are doing. They didn't own the rights to the headphone-jack. They DO own the rights to the lighting cable spec.

So basically, anytime anyone wants to make anything for an iPhone (accessories, etc...) they will have to pay Apple for using their cable format.

It's the same reason they diverted from USB (micro, etc...) and made the "lightning" cable.

Not the reason, but good thought. They needed room for the taptic engine. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...eadphone-jack-from-the-iphone-7/#6080646c3058
 
Apple has been so far behind with hardware now, it's ridiculous. The iphone 5 was the last good innovative phone they've made.

People acting like Apple is god because they "invented" the smartphone forget the fact that they couldn't figure out picture messages or video for the first few years. They finally were getting things at iphone 4, was pushing great features till iphone 5s.....then stagnated.

Funny how much shit (and rightfully so) that people give for the Note esplody incident...but peeps totally ignore the fact that almost every iphone has released with issues. I remember the "deathgrip" time when you couldn't get signal unless you held your phone a certain way, the bendgate incident, the iphone esplodey incidents (https://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/surv...ploding-catching-fire-store/story?id=55119539), the shadey practice of planned obsolescence (https://www.vox.com/2017/12/22/16807056/apple-slow-iphone-batteries), etc.

Oh cry me river. Every other mobile device has released with issues too. LOL. Give it up.
 
The touchscreen was a great innovation. No doubt. Thatsl was what, 12 years ago. But what have they done since thats others cant? Nothing. GUI on Apple isnt good and their decisions on various products yell sketchy

Apple sales are being made because its apple fanboys cannot be wrong.

Wow, talking about someone that has no clue. I like both Android and Apple, but I don't act like you.
 
...and everything else is made by Samsung. They still run on half the memory, smaller batteries, non expandable storage, higher price, and their display isn't as great (lower PPI, etc). There really hasn't been any new features or hardware that's really anything amazing or new.

Wrong. The iPhone X display was the best display to date till the S9+ just took the crown. When the O/S is tuned well, you don't need to have a ton of memory like Android does with it's poorly written APPs. So that just shows how bad Android is. It takes 6 gb of memory on Android for their phones to run smooth and fast (Note 8, S9+). Also, when the batteries are smaller, and out last Android devices, that also proves how well the devices are programmed.

A lot of phones are not expandable these days. (Pixel 2 XL) for an example. One of the best Android phones. Can't expand it. It's not needed these days. Get what you need.

The price is not higher. Have you priced the Note 8? It's $949 new. Stop posting misinformation.
 
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