This week in windows 10 makes my life miserable...

I just wanted this thread to be a collecting place of the weird issues W10 is causing, so I can point to it when heatlesssun says it's great, but thanks to the lot of you it was well derailed.

Anyway here are a few other issues I encountered:

  • On my main computer the taskbar would become always on top occasionally, for no reason. This happens maybe once or twice a month, but then it will stay there even when I run fullscreen apps, and the only way to fix it is by logging out and back into it. Basically killing explorer.exe and restarting it. It's very annoying as it would stay there even when I run games in fullscreen mode, or try to watch videos.
  • Another issue is that for some reason I cannot open a command prompt by typing in cmd or command in start. The option comes up but when I click on it nothing happens. Weird ain't it? It's not like the command prompt is missing as it will start if I access the run app and start cmd from there, or from powershell.
  • I've just installed 1803 on one of my computers as a last ditch effort to fix a networking issue I've been having, of course it didn't fix that, but the new version did break the Intel RSTe service.
  • The networking issue is actually this: When I Connect my phone to the PC and enable USB tethering, the remote NDIS network connection will switch itself to disabled after a while, for no damn reason. And it is impossible to enable it. The only way to do it is by rebooting, and then it works again for 15-20 minutes.

But I'm sure all of this is also my fault, and none of it would happen if only I was MCSE certified.
 
The only bug that I have been dealing with is on my windows 10 pro home media server. For some reason the network performance will pretty much drop to unusable. At first I thought it was maybe my router or switch but both have been replaced with the same issues coming up. I’ve tried different network cards with the same issue. Drivers are all current (as much as they can, this is a 2600k machine) and it affects my LAN and WAN connections so it’s not my ISP throttling me. I’ve disabled the windows firewall and tested with the same results. It happens maybe once every couple weeks and requires a reboot or reset to fix.

I wouldn’t even know where to start on your problems m76.
 
M76 said:
I'd like to see the alternatives. And please don't make me laugh by saying linux. I won't be starting a pocket revolution at my firm by trying to convert everyone to linux. Besides there are dozens of expensive software suites that are only available for windows that we use. And at home I'm using my PC for gaming, that puts the linux question to rest.
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Your options are.... Windows 10 and live with a buggy OS, that will get more stable, until MS pushes more broken updates a few months down the road. Or install 8.1 and use that until security updates end, or 7 and again have at it till updates end.

If your not wanting to run an older Version of Windows or break up with the abusive OS developer to go Linux... your only other option is to go buy a Mac. Lots of decent deals on used macs.

EDIT... one other option. If your firm is large enough and you have control over such decisions. Perhaps they could look into Windows 10 LTSB licences. I have no idea what MS is charging for such things, and I'm sure that would depend highly on how many machines your firm would actually be buying for.
 
Like an idiot I actually purchased Windows 10 Pro. How difficult is it to put 8.1 on a PC now? Do I have to buy a copy?
 
M76 said:
Another issue is that for some reason I cannot open a command prompt by typing in cmd or command in start. The option comes up but when I click on it nothing happens. Weird ain't it? It's not like the command prompt is missing as it will start if I access the run app and start cmd from there, or from powershell.
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I've seen this issue before. Try rebuilding the Windows search index in Indexing Options.
 
M76 said:
I'd like to see the alternatives. And please don't make me laugh by saying linux. I won't be starting a pocket revolution at my firm by trying to convert everyone to linux. Besides there are dozens of expensive software suites that are only available for windows that we use. And at home I'm using my PC for gaming, that puts the linux question to rest.
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OSX, Linux, older versions of Windows are all viable alternatives. If you don't want change, enjoy your problems. If nobody reacts, Microsoft will continue with its consumer oppressing practices freely. My company went 100% Mac/Linux 8 years ago and it was the best move we ever did. I pity people who are forced to use Windows at work. I really do.
 
B00nie said:
OSX, Linux, older versions of Windows are all viable alternatives. If you don't want change, enjoy your problems. If nobody reacts, Microsoft will continue with its consumer oppressing practices freely. My company went 100% Mac/Linux 8 years ago and it was the best move we ever did. I pity people who are forced to use Windows at work. I really do.
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I don't know what world you live in, but we don't just use office. There is software that costs a fortune, with no alternative available. I barely could squeeze out to pay the maintenance for it this year, which alone cost more than $10.000 for a single licence.
 
M76 said:
I'd like to see the alternatives. And please don't make me laugh by saying linux. I won't be starting a pocket revolution at my firm by trying to convert everyone to linux. Besides there are dozens of expensive software suites that are only available for windows that we use. And at home I'm using my PC for gaming, that puts the linux question to rest.
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If you are having trouble with Windows then I would say that in a commercial environment that you would be completely lost on Linux.

For info I was an MCSE last millennium!

These days I'm a SQL and Oracle DBA running on Windows, Linux and Solaris, I have to keep books around me for the Linux and Solaris stuff. ;-)
 
M76 said:
I don't know what world you live in, but we don't just use office. There is software that costs a fortune, with no alternative available. I barely could squeeze out to pay the maintenance for it this year, which alone cost more than $10.000 for a single licence.
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Then set up a terminal server for that poorly made software that seems to be overpriced and made on a poor platform.
 
bb_forrest said:
If you are having trouble with Windows then I would say that in a commercial environment that you would be completely lost on Linux.

For info I was an MCSE last millennium!

These days I'm a SQL and Oracle DBA running on Windows, Linux and Solaris, I have to keep books around me for the Linux and Solaris stuff. ;-)
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In reality you think Windows is easyer because you've been conditioned to use it.
 
bb_forrest said:
Sorry, been away on holiday.

You'd think that until you realise that my computer apprenticeship was on Unisys, VAX and Tandem Mainframes and at that time it was Windows 3.1

:-D
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Then I don't see how you can still think Windows is good for anything.
 
B00nie said:
Then I don't see how you can still think Windows is good for anything.
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I can setup a SQL Cluster with High Availability on Windows in a day.

Oracle RAC takes at least 2.

There is no one size fits all.

There was a company that attempted to take their infrastructure from Windows AD to Linux and Open Source about 5 years ago, after 2 years they reverted back.

For you to glibly dismiss everything suggests that you are not open minded.
 
bb_forrest said:
I can setup a SQL Cluster with High Availability on Windows in a day.

Oracle RAC takes at least 2.

There is no one size fits all.

There was a company that attempted to take their infrastructure from Windows AD to Linux and Open Source about 5 years ago, after 2 years they reverted back.

For you to glibly dismiss everything suggests that you are not open minded.
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I can set up a SQL HA cluster with linux and Clustercontrol in 10 minutes. Windows sucks.
 
bb_forrest said:
I can setup a SQL Cluster with High Availability on Windows in a day.

Oracle RAC takes at least 2.

There is no one size fits all.

There was a company that attempted to take their infrastructure from Windows AD to Linux and Open Source about 5 years ago, after 2 years they reverted back.

For you to glibly dismiss everything suggests that you are not open minded.
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Just ignore him. He tries to bait every thread into a Linux vs Windows debate.
 
B00nie said:
Just ignore him, he seems to ignore the fact that this thread is all about how bad Windows is.
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Thats the thing though, just because Windows 10 isn't good, doesn't mean that Linux is. Even the OP of this thread has clearly stated that. There ARE other operating systems and there people who despite not liking Windows 10, have to deal with it professionally every day.

And also I laughed WAY too hard at your setting up a "database" in 10 minutes on linux. You couldn't even configure the connections correctly in 10 minutes much less have one open. But I guess maybe in your world of fairy dust and unicorns where everyone runs linux, having 2 spreadsheets open in a network share is a considered a database. Oracle RAC runs primarily on Oracle linux and the fastest I have ever seen anyone set up a clustered high availability is about a half day for a simple setup.
 
AltTabbins said:
Thats the thing though, just because Windows 10 isn't good, doesn't mean that Linux is.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. I can't do the things I do with my PCs using Linux as a host so it's useless to me as a day to day host. That doesn't mean that desktop Linux is no good or can't be used by others. That these threads go all out bonkers with the most insane and impractical shit is a symptom of why desktop Linux is mostly for techies.
 
AltTabbins said:
Thats the thing though, just because Windows 10 isn't good, doesn't mean that Linux is. Even the OP of this thread has clearly stated that. There ARE other operating systems and there people who despite not liking Windows 10, have to deal with it professionally every day.

And also I laughed WAY too hard at your setting up a "database" in 10 minutes on linux. You couldn't even configure the connections correctly in 10 minutes much less have one open. But I guess maybe in your world of fairy dust and unicorns where everyone runs linux, having 2 spreadsheets open in a network share is a considered a database. Oracle RAC runs primarily on Oracle linux and the fastest I have ever seen anyone set up a clustered high availability is about a half day for a simple setup.
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Yeah, the RAC database is 3.5TB in size at present and that's after moving Audit stuff elsewhere, fairly certain it's not a 10 minute job, then you have logical standbys and data guard.

I don't mind reading fairy stories though, they are entertaining.
 
AltTabbins said:
Thats the thing though, just because Windows 10 isn't good, doesn't mean that Linux is. Even the OP of this thread has clearly stated that. There ARE other operating systems and there people who despite not liking Windows 10, have to deal with it professionally every day.

And also I laughed WAY too hard at your setting up a "database" in 10 minutes on linux. You couldn't even configure the connections correctly in 10 minutes much less have one open. But I guess maybe in your world of fairy dust and unicorns where everyone runs linux, having 2 spreadsheets open in a network share is a considered a database. Oracle RAC runs primarily on Oracle linux and the fastest I have ever seen anyone set up a clustered high availability is about a half day for a simple setup.
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Stop moving goal posts, the job discussed was specifically setting up a HA SQL cluster, nothing about databases. The database part is totally OS agnostic and you know it.
 
Windows 10 works great and does fix some things from Win7. Until it breaks. Which may not happen to you and your handful of computers. Try servicing over a thousand PCs in a building.

Did you know that you can't do a repair install (via upgrade install) with Windows 10, unless you can boot up and login? Can't fix it unless its still working. Yup. That makes total sense :facepalm:

Windows start menu breaks. (which has been an issue in every single release version, up until at least 1709. Haven't seen it in 1803 yet, but I'm sure I will.) Better hope sfc, DISM or Powershell fixes the problem. It often doesn't. Reinstall. UI unresponsive. Reinstall. Cortana doesn't search. Reinstall. Forums say something fixes some common Win 10 problem. Reset fails. System Restore fails. Try it all. Nothing works. Reinstall.

Seriously, I have never seen a problem I couldn't fix in Win 7 and never had to resort to a clean installation. I only did it when I wanted to or someone requested that. Windows 10? Better get used to reinstalling everything. That may mean nothing when its just your computer. But when you are talking about a huge number of machines that now need a data backup, clean install, software installs, multiple license reactivations, updates, printer configuration. etc etc etc etc......

In that respect alone Windows 10 is one of the worst releases from MS ever. And I didn't even mention how every new major release of it breaks things, just as countless small updates in between do. The latest is printers with 1803. :mad:
 
VIC-20 said:
Windows 10 works great and does fix some things from Win7. Until it breaks. Which may not happen to you and your handful of computers. Try servicing over a thousand PCs in a building.

Did you know that you can't do a repair install (via upgrade install) with Windows 10, unless you can boot up and login? Can't fix it unless its still working. Yup. That makes total sense :facepalm:

Windows start menu breaks. (which has been an issue in every single release version, up until at least 1709. Haven't seen it in 1803 yet, but I'm sure I will.) Better hope sfc, DISM or Powershell fixes the problem. It often doesn't. Reinstall. UI unresponsive. Reinstall. Cortana doesn't search. Reinstall. Forums say something fixes some common Win 10 problem. Reset fails. System Restore fails. Try it all. Nothing works. Reinstall.

Seriously, I have never seen a problem I couldn't fix in Win 7 and never had to resort to a clean installation. I only did it when I wanted to or someone requested that. Windows 10? Better get used to reinstalling everything. That may mean nothing when its just your computer. But when you are talking about a huge number of machines that now need a data backup, clean install, software installs, multiple license reactivations, updates, printer configuration. etc etc etc etc......

In that respect alone Windows 10 is one of the worst releases from MS ever. And I didn't even mention how every new major release of it breaks things, just as countless small updates in between do. The latest is printers with 1803. :mad:
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The lack of a repair install option is a major PITA, especially considering the fact that Windows recovery rarely works as intended.
 
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