Buy a tradtional SATA SSD or wait?

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soulesschild

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Currently running a z97? board that doesn't have the latest and greatest nvme2 slots. Should I wait until I upgrade to a newer mobo (waiting on Coffeelake 8c) and then pick up a NVME2 ssd or just go with a traditional sata SSD if cost isn't a factor?

Currently running a 500GB 860 Pro that I'm running out of space on.
 
If you need storage now just get sata. Unless you need super fast storage nvme isn't really needed.
 
can you offload some data from the SSD to something else?
 
I have my Apps and games installed on various NVME and SATA SSD's, but the largest majority of my Data is on a spinning disk. Docs, Pics, Media etc do not really benefit from being on SSD.
 
Did you mean 512GB 860 Pro or 500GB 860 EVO? And if you bought an SSD three months ago for storing files more than a week, just buy another one. 860 EVO is $238 for 1TB. 2TB is $498.

Or if a specific M.2 slot is only for PCIe, then discussing SATA is moot and it's empty or NVMe.
 
Given that prices have dropped a decent amount in the last 2-3 months to their lowest in over a year, buy now. You clearly need the space now and why suffer? Speed won't mean that much between the two for most use cases.
 
There is nothing really wrong with getting a sata ssd (I only got a 1tb nvme ssd becues it was same price as a sata based one) the only benefit is super high data speeds (it had to be 1tb) if that was not available I would of just got a sata based one

I got the Older but works fine Toshiba nvme xg3 1tb something like 2500/1500 (was something like £230 8 months ago)

your 860 Pro/evo is quite good at what actually matters in a ssd, you could get another 500gb or if money is no factor a 1tb samsung pro ssd (I prefer MLC based ssds had 2 evo ssds die on me) and I can get used Samsung 850 pro ssds for not much more then other random used ssds (well 256gb ones any) mx300, m500, 850 evo/pro all 1tb around £165-200
 
singe_101 said:
Did you mean 512GB 860 Pro or 500GB 860 EVO? And if you bought an SSD three months ago for storing files more than a week, just buy another one. 860 EVO is $238 for 1TB. 2TB is $498.

Or if a specific M.2 slot is only for PCIe, then discussing SATA is moot and it's empty or NVMe.
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Yea the 512 pro. I just round down :p

I guess I'll just pick up a new 1TB sata one. I thought the newer form factors had some other benefits other than MORE SPEED (but isn't that a reason to get it on a place like [H]? :p)
 
soulesschild said:
I guess I'll just pick up a new 1TB sata one. I thought the newer form factors had some other benefits other than MORE SPEED (but isn't that a reason to get it on a place like [H]? :p)
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Here's the deal with the m.2 PCIe support on Haswell's Z97 chipset:

The m.2 slot only operates at PCIe 2.0 x2 bandwidth, so the maximum theoretical throughput of the Z97's m.2 slot is only 1 GB/s reads and 900-ish MB/s writes. Worse, many of those particular slots only support PCIe m.2 SSDs, with no SATA support whatsoever. As such, the PCIe m.2 SSD may cost substantially more money than a 2.5" SATA SSD that the SSD's PCIe interface would be largely wasted (that is, it is not sufficiently faster than a SATA SSD to justify the cost for that particular system).
 
E4g1e said:
Here's the deal with the m.2 PCIe support on Haswell's Z97 chipset:

The m.2 slot only operates at PCIe 2.0 x2 bandwidth, so the maximum theoretical throughput of the Z97's m.2 slot is only 1 GB/s reads and 900-ish MB/s writes. Worse, many of those particular slots only support PCIe m.2 SSDs, with no SATA support whatsoever. As such, the PCIe m.2 SSD may cost substantially more money than a 2.5" SATA SSD that the SSD's PCIe interface would be largely wasted (that is, it is not sufficiently faster than a SATA SSD to justify the cost for that particular system).
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The XPG SX6000 is limited to PCIe x2, though it is Gen 3.0. It only costs $98 for 512GB, which is a SATA price.
 
My opinion is just get the SATA now. Waiting and spending a ton more for an equivalent capacity NVMe for placebo effect performance gains during real-world home usage is a bit of a waste, imo.

The difference between a spindle drive and a SATA SSD is amazing.
The difference between a SATA SSD and an NVMe SSD is underwhelming.
 
DejaWiz said:
My opinion is just get the SATA now. Waiting and spending a ton more for an equivalent capacity NVMe for placebo effect performance gains during real-world home usage is a bit of a waste, imo.

The difference between a spindle drive and a SATA SSD is amazing.
The difference between a SATA SSD and an NVMe SSD is underwhelming.
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Real world “feel” —- I can’t tell any difference between any recent SSD I’ve used and the Samsung Evo NVME I have on my x99 setup. My NVME is my OS drive (Windows 10)

That being said, check out Intel Optane, coupled with just about any typical platter drive. It is SSD speeds or better. I haven’t toyed with it personally, but reviews are outrageous.

A 12TB Optane drive would cost you about $300-$350 and be imperceivable to real world SSD performance for typical use case according to reviews I've read.
 
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only time you would notice it is when copying files around or when installing a large 30-50GB say game (assuming you had a NVME ssd before)

i turned off write caching for testing day before and was wondering why it was taking so long to install a game, it was doing it at somthing like 200mb/s or lower soon as i ticked it back on it went right back up to around 900mb to 1.1GB/s

my older system was limited to SATA 300 and games was installing perfectly fine on that one
 
I have the XPG SX8200 960Gb NVME and its nice as its fast and directly connected to the mobo so no power and SATA cabling needed. However if you're happy with the rest of your hardware then upgrade to a larger SSD and wait on NVME as they are still kinda pricey.
 
If you have an open x4 slot you can get an adapter for M.2 drives.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124181 Gets power fromt he motherboard. Lower slot is PCI Express/NVME, upper slot is SATA. Connect a SATA data cable to corner and to motherboard If you install a M.2 SATA. You can use either or populate both.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K78B2400 960 Pro 2TB NVME m.2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K7CW7655 970 Evo 2TB NVME m.2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147681 860 Evo 2TB SATA m.2

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAADF7F22750 860 Evo 4TB SATA 2.5

Just tossing those out there. The 2.5 inch drive has room to add more chips and has a higher capacity, sata data rates are the same in 2.5 inch or m.2 form. NVME drives need to be in uefi mode and GPT to boot?
 
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