US DOJ Sting Nets Darknet Arrests

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The United States Department of Justice is directly reporting that is has completed a nationwide undercover operation that was directly focused on Darknet narcotic sales. The sting swept up 35 persons as well as $23.6M worth of weapons and drugs.

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“The Darknet is ever-changing and increasingly more intricate, making locating and targeting those selling illicit items on this platform more complicated. But in this case, HSI special agents were able to walk amongst those in the cyber underworld to find those vendors who sell highly addictive drugs for a profit,” said HSI Acting Executive Associate Director Benner. “The veil has been lifted. HSI has infiltrated the Darknet, and together with its law enforcement partners nationwide, it has proven, once again, that every criminal is within arm’s reach of the law.”
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I never understand why people think that things won't eventually catch up with them. I mean, I know our government is incompetent - but the two things we can guarantee in life is death and taxes... So if you're selling drugs or weapons - you best be reporting that income ;)

Al Capone learned this.... It's not so much charging people with the crimes that gets you, it's not reporting the income and taxing it that gets you the most.
 
The sad fact is that there is probably an order of magnitude more crime than arrests. The law wins one here, and that's truly great. They probably lost hundreds, maybe thousands.

A victory for law and order is still a victory, but I'm pretty sure crime pays well, which is why we have criminals.

Justice is a dish best served cold. If served warmer, it would be justwater.
 
Joust said:
The sad fact is that there is probably an order of magnitude more crime than arrests. The law wins one here, and that's truly great. They probably lost hundreds, maybe thousands.

A victory for law and order is still a victory, but I'm pretty sure crime pays well, which is why we have criminals.

Justice is a dish best served cold. If served warmer, it would be justwater.
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I agree, but I'd highlight why it is the way it is. We know that we are limited by our system which is set up to provide protections to the innocent. It's not perfect, but I'd equate this to a sliding scale, we can get tougher on crime but we would convict more innocent people, and we could provide even greater protections to our people but no criminal would ever be convicted. The question becomes, where do we move the slider so that the population as a whole is best served? We will have crime, but we have to keep that level of crime and the problems it creates to a level that is bare-able. To do that, some innocent people will get hurt, some criminals will get away, but you must find that balance where the problems are something we can live with.

No matter what, it's going to suck for some of the people some of the time, but if done right, it doesn't suck for all of the people all of the time.
 
lcpiper said:
I agree, but I'd highlight why it is the way it is. We know that we are limited by our system which is set up to provide protections to the innocent. It's not perfect, but I'd equate this to a sliding scale, we can get tougher on crime but we would convict more innocent people, and we could provide even greater protections to our people but no criminal would ever be convicted. The question becomes, where do we move the slider so that the population as a whole is best served? We will have crime, but we have to keep that level of crime and the problems it creates to a level that is bare-able. To do that, some innocent people will get hurt, some criminals will get away, but you must find that balance where the problems are something we can live with.

No matter what, it's going to suck for some of the people some of the time, but if done right, it doesn't suck for all of the people all of the time.
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Sure. A similar balancing is at the core of probably all - but certainly most - 4th Amendment arguments.
 
find those vendors who sell highly addictive drugs for a profit,
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well DUH.. why would you sell things for a loss??

only silicon valley tech startups do that kind of non sense
 
There's always that one guy that just has to go too far! "...and a grenade launcher." Wat?! :p

  • Seizure of more than 100 firearms, including handguns, assault rifles, and a grenade launcher;
  • Seizure of five vehicles that were purchased with illicit proceeds and/or used to facilitate criminal activity;
  • Seizure of more than $3.6 million in U.S. currency and gold bars;
  • Seizure of nearly 2,000 Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies, with an approximate value of more than $20 million;
  • Confiscation of 15 pill presses, which are used to create illegal synthetic opioids; and
  • Seizure of Bitcoin mining devices, computer equipment, and vacuum sealers.
 
It should be noted that grenade launchers are perfectly legal to own...and you can buy one at most gun shows. HOWEVER, the grenades are illegal as hell. People who own the launchers either use them with "dummy" practice rounds or with smoke (or tear gas).
 
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Hopefully, that is just the beginning of sting operations.




for a moment there I thought you were talking about crypto miners / companies. Not that they are organized crime ;) but the tax part



my grandparents didn't have that problem - they left their doors unlocked when they rode into town (they were from Italy where, even in the late 1960's early 70's folks still left their doors open at night). Today, everything is monitored, scanned, watched. It's a different world today
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Not for my old man, front door of his house is never locked and he doesn't live nearly as far out in the sticks as he used to cause the city is just growing out to swallow him up.

Of course, if someone uninvited comes calling they'll likely get shot. Hell, not even his TV is safe from that action :unsure:
 
Hmm.

Darknet.com is not loading for me.

Im not smart enough for this stuff apparently
 
LanceDiamond said:
There's always that one guy that just has to go too far! "...and a grenade launcher." Wat?! :p

  • Seizure of more than 100 firearms, including handguns, assault rifles, and a grenade launcher;
  • Seizure of five vehicles that were purchased with illicit proceeds and/or used to facilitate criminal activity;
  • Seizure of more than $3.6 million in U.S. currency and gold bars;
  • Seizure of nearly 2,000 Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies, with an approximate value of more than $20 million;
  • Confiscation of 15 pill presses, which are used to create illegal synthetic opioids; and
  • Seizure of Bitcoin mining devices, computer equipment, and vacuum sealers.
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Well.

I was expecting this big nationwide roundup of hundreds of criminals........

5 vehicles? 15 pill presses? shit. this is a single criminal group that was careless and was caught, this isn't even significant.
 
LanceDiamond said:
There's always that one guy that just has to go too far! "...and a grenade launcher." Wat?! :p

  • Seizure of more than 100 firearms, including handguns, assault rifles, and a grenade launcher;
  • Seizure of five vehicles that were purchased with illicit proceeds and/or used to facilitate criminal activity;
  • Seizure of more than $3.6 million in U.S. currency and gold bars;
  • Seizure of nearly 2,000 Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies, with an approximate value of more than $20 million;
  • Confiscation of 15 pill presses, which are used to create illegal synthetic opioids; and
  • Seizure of Bitcoin mining devices, computer equipment, and vacuum sealers.
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Believe it or not;
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/are-grenade-and-rocket-launcher-attachments-destructive-devices

Of course this is Federal law and your State laws may vary.
 
motomonkey said:
Well.

I was expecting this big nationwide roundup of hundreds of criminals........

5 vehicles? 15 pill presses? shit. this is a single criminal group that was careless and was caught, this isn't even significant.
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I think it might be significant for the ones that were caught, and as Justice is saying, it's not as safe as some may believe. I mean that is a big point they are trying to get across, that it's no longer safe. Just like the Doolittle Raid in WW2, but a little fear into Japan, make them believe that they aren't safe, that it's not all going to go their way anymore.
 
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