NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Qrash said:
You should check out Optimum Tech's video "Ultimate NCASE M1 Cooling Setup?" in which he compares the A9 and B9 fans on the NH-U9S, set up with intake from the rear and the window side panel.
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yeah 5 degrees cooler on the A9s (doubt i'd get 5.0Ghz on mine), Hoping to use the bottoms as intake and rear as exhaust in mine.


Shottie said:
He set the fans to 100%. Literally nobody does that. Of course the a9 wins because it spins 400 rpm faster.

IDK about yall, but I sure as hell don't need 100% fan speeds and I'm cooling a 10 core.
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i def dont want no 77C temps, prefer to lower the OC and fan speed. Whole reason i'm moving to the m1 is for a smaller and better cooling build.

really wish my gaming x would fit in the m1 it runs silent most of the time.
 
Hello I’m Uzeyir from the Netherlands,

First of all, I'm new here and was inspired by some Ncase builds. so I started 4 weeks back with my Ncase.

I’ve just finished my new build. It was the first time I’ve done a watercooling custom build and it was a long journey to finish my Silversurfer.
I had to change my old Coolermaster pc because it was old and was bad quality.
I lost a lot of time waiting for parts to arrive at home but here it is!

My parts list:

  • NCase M1 V5 Silver
  • Side Glaspanel Silver
  • Corsair SF600 Gold
  • Asus Z370i Pro Gaming iTX
  • Intel Core i7 8700K Unlockt
  • G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 2 x 16Go 3400 MHz (4000MHz OC)
  • Evga nVidia GTX 1080 Ti SuperClockt Black Edition
  • Samsung 970 Pro 1Tb
  • EK-XRES 100 Revo D5 PWM Pump
  • EK-Supremacy EDGE Limited Edition
  • EK-FC GTX 1080 Ti GTX Watercover
  • EK-FC GTX 1080 Ti GTX Backplate
  • EK-CoolStream SE 240mm Radiator
  • RK-Cryofuel Navy Blue
  • Alphacool Full Copper 80mm Radiator
  • EK-HD PETG Tube 10/12mm Acrylic
  • EK-HDC Nikkel Fittings
  • 3 x ProlimaTech Ultra Sleek Vortex 120mm 1300rpm PWM
  • 1 x BlackSilent PRO 80mm 2500rpm PWM
  • Bitspower Flow Indicator
  • Costum Holders and Brackets
  • CableMod Pro
Peripherals:
  • Acer X34P PREDATOR
  • Logitech Gaming Keyboard G Pro
  • Logitech Gaming Mouse G 903
  • Logitech G Powerplay Mat
I had to make a custom holder for the pump combo because there is no other way to mount it on the front.
On the CNC machines I had make brackets for the GPU and I’ve painted in mat black so it looks outstanding.
Also it was the first time I was bending hard tubes, it was long but was way easier than what I was thinking, I didn’t waste a single tube.

I would love to get some advice or information about the way I can improve the build and what do you think about my temperatures because I find them little high.
I know that I will not get the best temperature because of the size of the build but still I have with normal laod max temp of around 43°C for CPU and 38°C for GPU. I easily reach fully load (benchmark) 67°C with CPU and around 69°C for GPU with my build.
I’ve put ProlimaTech Ultra Sleek 120 Slim with way better air pressure.
I don’t know if it would be better if I pull air inside the case trough the radiator, right now I’m pushing it outside. I’m bit worried about the temperatures. The reservoir is hot after a few hours of gaming or benchmarking… What do you all think?
What are the normal temps for a watercooled build with this size?
I read on a site that you must leave air gab/space in the resevoir because when the water gets hot the pressure rises, is this true? because now I compltely filled resevoir with no air gab.

I have improve yesterday my SilverSurfer with front fan and have now better airflow in the case.
I used again the ProlimaTech ultra sleek vortex 120 and have now fully load beter temps 54°C for CPU and 58°C for GPU.
I have make some holes in the Aluminum front panel for the fan on my work with CNC milling machines
Now I finally finish my build


hopefully i post this on the right place:nailbiting:

Thank U
Uzeyir
 
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Amazing work! You must have access to a high-quality CNC, the holes look exactly the same as the other panels.

This got me thinking, now that there is an official window panel for the M1, how about a version 6 that has mounting holes for a 120/140mm fan in the front along with some extra ventilation holes on the frame as well as a ventilated front panel option? Perhaps the panel can have Lian Li's coin slot-like ventilation pattern vertically with some aesthetic choices (like each row reaching to a different height, etc.)
 
I've always thought a front ventilation is the natural evolution for this case. If we could have a Meshify C style front panel that would be ideal!
 
Nice build, 67 and 69 a fairy good temps for benchmarking, beating air by 10c

The bottom fan space be used for a rad?


I was looking to sneak in a aio 1080ti in a window build and didnt think i had anywhere to put the rad.
 
Did anyone tried out three fans on the NH D9L? Right now I'm using two Noctua Redux fans with it but I was wondering if anyone tried it out and can tell if it's worth it?
Cheers! :)
 
I'd be surprised if going from two fans to three made much difference. Going from one fan to two didn't take more than a couple of degrees off temperatures with my U9S, but it did allow me to maintain the same temperature at much lower RPM (and thus noise levels).
 
Chapeau said:
I've always thought a front ventilation is the natural evolution for this case. If we could have a Meshify C style front panel that would be ideal!
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While I love this mod presented here from a functionality standpoint and performance-per-liter, the front holes are ugly and ruin the aesthetic of the case.
 
Smitty2k1 said:
While I love this mod presented here from a functionality standpoint and performance-per-liter, the front holes are ugly and ruin the aesthetic of the case.
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I have to agree. While he did a good job the pics of the original front panel look much better. Nice thing about the Ncase is you can always get a replacement panel.
 
Bawjaws said:
I'd be surprised if going from two fans to three made much difference. Going from one fan to two didn't take more than a couple of degrees off temperatures with my U9S, but it did allow me to maintain the same temperature at much lower RPM (and thus noise levels).
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It's not so much about temperature control as pressure/dust control. I doubt much air gets past the graphics card from the bottom fans, at least 40% leaks out thru the PCIe cover vents and the front I/O vent and half of what's left leaks out of the backside panel vents. I think for certain setups it may actually be better to have a solid backside panel to force the air up. For a typical windowed build with a U9S, I think it may be better to actually intake from the rear, especially if you have a non-reference GPU.
 
QuantumBraced : Sorry, not sure if you meant to quote my post there? I was responding to a question from joNathanW- :

joNathanW- said:
Did anyone tried out three fans on the NH D9L? Right now I'm using two Noctua Redux fans with it but I was wondering if anyone tried it out and can tell if it's worth it?
Cheers! :)
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Bawjaws said:
I'd be surprised if going from two fans to three made much difference. Going from one fan to two didn't take more than a couple of degrees off temperatures with my U9S, but it did allow me to maintain the same temperature at much lower RPM (and thus noise levels).
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Just seems like your reply is a bit at cross-purposes to mine, which was solely concerned with the difference between two and three fans on the CPU cooler. :)
 
QuantumBraced said:
It's not so much about temperature control as pressure/dust control. I doubt much air gets past the graphics card from the bottom fans, at least 40% leaks out thru the PCIe cover vents and the front I/O vent and half of what's left leaks out of the backside panel vents. I think for certain setups it may actually be better to have a solid backside panel to force the air up. For a typical windowed build with a U9S, I think it may be better to actually intake from the rear, especially if you have a non-reference GPU.
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i have a Lian case with only passive intake, relies on a good exhaust to pull the heat out.
you need a front fan, which might help the M1 but it defeats the look of the case.



anybody able
Uzeyir said:
fk5OZo
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did you have to do any modding to get a radiator in the bottom?

i was told there was no room for radiators in a window build.
 
QuantumBraced said:
Oh apologies, I thought you meant case fans. I took your comment out of context.
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No worries, I should have quoted the post I was replying to, for clarity (it was the one directly above my reply, but I appreciate that it's not always obvious who is replying to which post). It's all good.
 
wahaha360 said:
Nice!

I might have to make this Front Panel as an upgrade (with dust filer).
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There's only just room for a 15mm thick 120mm fan with very little clearance between it and the front panel. A dust filter would add a lot of restriction because of that limited clearance. There's no good place to attach a dust filter anyway. Also the close proximity of the fan blades to the vent holes might cause turbulence noise.

Furthermore, there isn't a good place for the lower set of screw holes for the fan.

Suffice to say, the limited utility this offers does not seem to me to be worth it.
 
PC-Q38 vents would be dope on all the panels. Good news is, Lian Li already knows how to cut them XD


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rfarmer said:
I have to agree. While he did a good job the pics of the original front panel look much better. Nice thing about the Ncase is you can always get a replacement panel.
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That's true and I use the windowpanel side as front on the desk ;)
 
Greeley said:
i have a Lian case with only passive intake, relies on a good exhaust to pull the heat out.
you need a front fan, which might help the M1 but it defeats the look of the case.



anybody able


did you have to do any modding to get a radiator in the bottom?

i was told there was no room for radiators in a window build.
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first I want to make a logo on the front, like "G" logo from Logitech instead of holes for fan or something els because you can make crazy thing with high tech CNC milling machines:)
Also I use the windowpanel side as front on the desk, then i can look inside and be proud!! :)

On the bottom i did do anything but if you want to use the 2 USB and mic on the front you must mod that. i cut a little piece of the plastic block to make some space in the length because you needed for the connection radiator.
You have room for a radiator on the bottom, i have use ekwb 240se (slim)

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There's only just room for a 15mm thick 120mm fan with very little clearance between it and the front panel. A dust filter would add a lot of restriction because of that limited clearance. There's no good place to attach a dust filter anyway. Also the close proximity of the fan blades to the vent holes might cause turbulence noise.

Furthermore, there isn't a good place for the lower set of screw holes for the fan.

Suffice to say, the limited utility this offers does not seem to me to be worth it.
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Couldn't you mount the fan to the inside of the frame? Then you can use magnetic strips and stick a Demciflex or a Silverstone magnetic filter on the other side, it's how everyone is filtering the bottom intakes on the M1 already. Seems to me all you'd need is 4 mounting holes and maybe some extra ventilation above the main opening at the bottom-front of the frame -- would help with general heat dissipation too with things like ATX PSUs and front-mounted HDDs. Some may even use those frame vent holes to mount pump + res combos. For those who are seriously concerned with the aesthetics of the front, they could use the solid panel and still get *some* airflow thru the bottom and maybe the top if they use the top panel with the ODD slot -- maybe round the corners on it, so it looks more vent-like. But also have a front panel option with PC-Q3-style vents (maybe each row can be offset from the next by an inch or so for a more aesthetically pleasing look) and perhaps even consider changing the vents on all panels to that style since I think most would agree it looks better. You also open up the possibility of mounting the HDD cage to that 120mm mount for people who want to use the window front panel and have a short GPU (would it fit?).

I know you are generally opposed to the idea of a windowed M1 and I understand the reasons for it -- the case was not designed and optimized for that type of use. But the reality is, there are a lot of people who are fine with a Noctua U9S and want to show off their systems, and for a windowed M1 a front intake makes sense in my view. Updating the vents does too. The M1 is in essence a 2013 case, I think having an option optimized for a windowed side panel would be in keeping up with the times. Sorry for the long post. Maybe I should have posted this in the M1 changes/suggestions thread.
 
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Boil said:
Mixed perforations would look like shitte; holes or slots, one or the other, never a mix...!
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I was suggesting those slots on the panels. Not a mix of holes and slots. I'm not a mad man!
 
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QuantumBraced said:
Couldn't you mount the fan to the inside of the frame?
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PSU is in the way.

QuantumBraced said:
I know you are generally opposed to the idea of a windowed M1 and I understand the reasons for it -- the case was not designed and optimized for that type of use. But the reality is, there are a lot of people who are fine with a Noctua U9S and want to show off their systems, and for a windowed M1 a front intake makes sense in my view. Updating the vents does too. The M1 is in essence a 2013 case, I think having an option optimized for a windowed side panel would be in keeping up with the times. Sorry for the long post. Maybe I should have posted this in the M1 changes/suggestions thread.
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You know, a few weeks ago I started designing a case from the ground up that was intended to be an updated M1, incorporating all of the most common improvements people had asked for, or modded themselves. It had twice as much clearance under the case for improved airflow, more clearance between the motherboard and bottom of the case to properly support a bottom rad, more clearance at the top for a top exhaust fan and better SFX-L support, widened for improved tall GPU support, and lengthened slightly so you could even get a full size mATX board in. It did away completely with the side bracket, instead being designed around bottom-to-top airflow with a side window.

The problem? All those little dimensional increases added up, and it was pushing 18L. At that size, I realized a conventional layout with front-to-back airflow just makes more sense. Over in my concept thread on SFFforum I have a design for a 20L mATX case, which for the small cost of 2L does virtually everything better than the improved M1 design did.

Tacking on extra features to the M1 to try to make it do things it was never meant for takes away from the elegance of the original design (case in point: the extra-tall feet people add on), and will never work as well as if the case is designed for it from the ground up.
 
Necere said:
PSU is in the way.
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What if you mounted the PSU via the ATX bracket? You could have mounts for a slim 92mm too, which would fit with the standard SFX layout.

Necere said:
You know, a few weeks ago I started designing a case from the ground up that was intended to be an updated M1, incorporating all of the most common improvements people had asked for, or modded themselves. It had twice as much clearance under the case for improved airflow, more clearance between the motherboard and bottom of the case to properly support a bottom rad, more clearance at the top for a top exhaust fan and better SFX-L support, widened for improved tall GPU support, and lengthened slightly so you could even get a full size mATX board in. It did away completely with the side bracket, instead being designed around bottom-to-top airflow with a side window.

The problem? All those little dimensional increases added up, and it was pushing 18L. At that size, I realized a conventional layout with front-to-back airflow just makes more sense. Over in my concept thread on SFFforum I have a design for a 20L mATX case, which for the small cost of 2L does virtually everything better than the improved M1 design did.

Tacking on extra features to the M1 to try to make it do things it was never meant for takes away from the elegance of the original design (case in point: the extra-tall feet people add on), and will never work as well as if the case is designed for it from the ground up.
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That's fair, but I feel like there's a line between I-might-as-well-design-a-new-case and adding functionality to an existing design that works well, and perhaps you draw the line a bit too close to the former. The design you're describing is clearly a new case, mATX, extra bottom clearance, top fans, tall GPUs, those aren't things that are really needed in a tiny case. And I don't get a sense that anyone is asking for them for the M1, they may be asking for a whole new mATX case (and I do love your 20L design). The way I see it, something like a front fan support doesn't fall in the same category because it's useful if you have a window, is in keeping with the M1's theme of tradeoffs and flexibility, and doesn't add any volume or adjustments to the measurements of the case. The M1 may not be designed with a window in mind, but it works perfectly well with one, you can have an 8700K OCed to 5GHz and an overclocked 1080 Ti with no issue. Heck, Shottie even installed a C14S on an X299 chip + an Accelero-cooled GPU with the window and got great temperatures. The front fan would help with intake past a GPU (or maybe exhaust in some cases). It's fair if you think a vented front panel is too intrusive to the design and won't sell enough to justify stocking it, but I don't think it would somehow defeat the point of the case and push it into something it's not meant to be. You can do so much with the M1, it's hard to pinpoint exactly what it's meant to be or do. Tons of people are not using the side bracket and they like the M1 perfectly fine.

But I get where you're coming from, I'm just advocating for a bit more open-mindedness. I quote from the movie Apollo 13: "I don't care what anything was designed to do, I care about what it CAN do". ;)
 
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What if you mounted the PSU via the ATX bracket?
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Using the ATX bracket:

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With the caveat that with a front fan you'd lose ALL front drive mounting (no ODD or 2.5" drives). Also as you can see the chassis cutout is too wide to support the two lower fan screws. I can't really make it narrower or else it will interfere with extra long GPU coolers (like the Accelero Extreme). Best I could do would be to offset the fan a few mm to the right so three mounting holes are supported.

QuantumBraced said:
That's fair, but I feel like there's a line between I-might-as-well-design-a-new-case and adding functionality to an existing design that works well, and perhaps you draw the line a bit too close to the former. The design you're describing is clearly a new case, mATX, extra bottom clearance, top fans, tall GPUs, those aren't things that are really needed in a tiny case. And I don't get a sense that anyone is asking for them for the M1, they may be asking for a whole new mATX case (and I do love your 20L design). The way I see it, something like a front fan support doesn't fall in the same category because it's useful if you have a window, is in keeping with the M1's theme of tradeoffs and flexibility, and doesn't add any volume or adjustments to the measurements of the case. The M1 may not be designed with a window in mind, but it works perfectly well with one, you can have an 8700K OCed to 5GHz and an overclocked 1080 Ti with no issue. Heck, Shottie even installed a C14S on an X299 chip + an Accelero-cooled GPU with the window and got great temperatures. The front fan would help with intake past a GPU (or maybe exhaust in some cases). It's fair if you think a vented front panel is too intrusive to the design and won't sell enough to justify stocking it, but I don't think it would somehow defeat the point of the case and push it into something it's not meant to be. You can do so much with the M1, it's hard to pinpoint exactly what it's meant to be or do. Tons of people are not using the side bracket and they like the M1 perfectly fine.
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I just don't like the idea of implementing something that feels like an afterthought. Three mounting holes, SFX in the ATX bracket, loss of drive mounting, lack of dust filtration. And then having to explain all that to people. Maybe you don't realize this, but I still get questions all the time about what will and won't fit because of all the conditionals that are too complicated to relate easily through a compatibility guide on a website. I don't want to add more to the pile of things I have to write an explanatory paragraph about every time someone asks me. Make sense?

QuantumBraced said:
But I get where you're coming from, I'm just advocating for a bit more open-mindedness. I quote from the movie Apollo 13: "I don't care what anything was designed to do, I care about what it CAN do". ;)
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Yet you're asking for a design change, so.
 
I still need to do a few more tests, but from what I'm seeing the U9S can't compete with a well thought out C14S setup. Delidded and direct die I'm sitting at 73c under gaming load at 4.8GHZ on 10 cores. The "mods" I've done are so easy that anyone can do them. It's literally 3M tape. I guess the thought is, the cooling potential is already there in the case as-is. The creativity needs to happen on the user side, not on the product side.

That being said, I'd kill to see a render of the M1 with the glass panel, and the top having those lian li slot vents. It must just be me but I think those things look dope as hell lol.
 
Necere said:
Using the ATX bracket:

With the caveat that with a front fan you'd lose ALL front drive mounting (no ODD or 2.5" drives). Also as you can see the chassis cutout is too wide to support the two lower fan screws. I can't really make it narrower or else it will interfere with extra long GPU coolers (like the Accelero Extreme). Best I could do would be to offset the fan a few mm to the right so three mounting holes are supported.

I just don't like the idea of implementing something that feels like an afterthought. Three mounting holes, SFX in the ATX bracket, loss of drive mounting, lack of dust filtration. And then having to explain all that to people. Maybe you don't realize this, but I still get questions all the time about what will and won't fit because of all the conditionals that are too complicated to relate easily through a compatibility guide on a website. I don't want to add more to the pile of things I have to write an explanatory paragraph about every time someone asks me. Make sense?

Yet you're asking for a design change, so.
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I see, thanks for elaborating. The 3 hole design might be more practical. Couldn't you still mount a 2.5" drive using the top mounts? Maybe use tape on the bottom. Or stick them above the fan on the inside. And dust filtration would be aftermarket as is done on the bottom. Really, the brunt of the changes would be adding additional vents to the frame if possible and offering a vented front panel. Otherwise people can be creative with mounting the fan.

But I see what you're saying, you don't want to add a lot more complexity for a marginal increase in functionality. I get that. The case is pretty complicated, which is probably not great for sales -- or you break even on the cost-benefit because you reach more customers by offering more functions but you lose some who don't get how to use the case or misunderstood what it supports. I'm biased, my favorite thing about the M1 is its incredible flexibility and all the tradeoffs and complexity while still maintaining a tiny size, so adding more of that gets me excited for the possibilities. But what you're saying makes perfect sense, as the designer and primary contact for inquiries, it must be exhausting. It's easy for me to nerd out as a fan. I honestly think the only way to properly convey all the different ways you can use the M1 is with some kind of an interactive graphic, like Sentry has. Otherwise, typing it all out in paragraphs detailing each scenario would be a nightmare for you and whomever is reading it. But that graphic would be hard to make too.

Alright, well point taken. By the way, the other idea I had was some way to add to the HDD cage and/or the frame to enable mounting it to the front of the case, so people can still use it with a window. That may be easier to implement and won't add much additional explaining, if you think it's worth it or possible.
 
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That being said, I'd kill to see a render of the M1 with the glass panel, and the top having those lian li slot vents. It must just be me but I think those things look dope as hell lol.
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We explored alternate vent designs a few years ago. Personally I don't really care for the staggered slots, or at least when they have to be "bordered" (don't extend to the edge of the panel).
 
QuantumBraced said:
I see, thanks for elaborating. The 3 hole design might be more practical. Couldn't you still mount a 2.5" drive using the top mounts? Maybe use tape on the bottom.
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Maybe. Cables would have to go through the top opening, and the drive would get in the way of a filter, although that may be moot...

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And dust filtration would be aftermarket as is done on the bottom.
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Thing is, the Demciflex filters have just enough give that they get sucked into the fan and rub against the fan blades if there's no grille to stop them. That was a problem on the side bracket before we added the magnetic filter. On the front the filter could only be supported on three edges (rather than all four as on the fan bracket), exacerbating the issue.

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Alright, well point taken. By the way, the other idea I had was some way to add to the HDD cage and/or the frame to enable mounting it to the front of the case, so people can still use it with a window. That may be easier to implement and won't add much additional explaining, if you think it's worth it or possible.
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It would probably need to use the 2.5" drive mounts, but I don't know... it's kind of a lot of weight to be hanging off a handful of M3 screw threads.
 
Necere said:
We explored alternate vent designs a few years ago. Personally I don't really care for the staggered slots, or at least when they have to be "bordered" (don't extend to the edge of the panel).
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Thanks for the link. It looks as good as I hoped it would, which just means I have to find a CNC to cut these out yay another project!
 
Necere said:
Using the ATX bracket:

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With the caveat that with a front fan you'd lose ALL front drive mounting (no ODD or 2.5" drives). Also as you can see the chassis cutout is too wide to support the two lower fan screws. I can't really make it narrower or else it will interfere with extra long GPU coolers (like the Accelero Extreme). Best I could do would be to offset the fan a few mm to the right so three mounting holes are supported.

I just don't like the idea of implementing something that feels like an afterthought. Three mounting holes, SFX in the ATX bracket, loss of drive mounting, lack of dust filtration. And then having to explain all that to people. Maybe you don't realize this, but I still get questions all the time about what will and won't fit because of all the conditionals that are too complicated to relate easily through a compatibility guide on a website. I don't want to add more to the pile of things I have to write an explanatory paragraph about every time someone asks me. Make sense?

Yet you're asking for a design change, so.
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i quite agree the case looks better with the solid front, and sure somebody can mod something but at the point it feels like they really just wanted a different case but like m1's design so they Frankenstein'd it.

also each owner is different, for example i've completely moved to m.2 ssds so i dont have to worry about space for that

where as i still use an internal ODD (i actually play blurays and am not a fan of most external drives) and many people dont and would rather use that space for fans.

just to verify a 120mm radiator fits in the bottom(AIO cooler)?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N108TAORUSX-W-11GD-rev-10-11#kf


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Greeley said:
i quite agree the case looks better with the solid front, and sure somebody can mod something but at the point it feels like they really just wanted a different case but like m1's design so they Frankenstein'd it.


just to verify a 120mm radiator fits in the bottom(AIO cooler)?

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You don't have the clearance between the case bottom and the GPU for an AIO in the bottom, you can mount one on the side bracket.
 
rfarmer said:
You don't have the clearance between the case bottom and the GPU for an AIO in the bottom, you can mount one on the side bracket.
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yes thats what you said before so i was scratching my head on that bottom rad on the last page. guess he's using slim fans and i guess the aorus isnt as thin as his full cover block.


Necere said:
No. There's only ~27mm under a dual-slot GPU, so a rad+fan won't fit.

The way people get a rad on the bottom is to use a full cover water block on the GPU to reduce it to a single slot. Even then, the most that will fit is a slim rad (<30mm) with slim fans (<=15mm).
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ah okay, i was confused by the pictures.
 
Greeley said:
yes thats what you said before so i was scratching my head on that bottom rad on the last page. guess he's using slim fans and i guess the aorus isnt as thin as his full cover block.
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Hybrid cards like the Aorus that use AIOs have the pump in the block on the card, which is too thick to fit in a single slot. So they're always at least 2 slots.
 
i already have given up on the AIO and have two air cooled cards in mind, just seeing Uzeyir's window case with a loop was tempting me haha.

coming from a Lian li case with a huge window so just have to go with the window'ed m1. (5930k/1080 gaming x to a m1 with a 8700k and a 1080ti since the gaming x is too fat)
 
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