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We can only hope there'll be a fallout 5 without all the online bullshit. And they don't fuck up elder scrolls 6 like this.all this reveal did was depress me, a game where the only characters are people and all those people can murder you. solo play but online only. The only thing I see is trolls and people that loved the pvp in Diablo 1. First fallout game since Fallout 1, I do not want to preorder. Will not be playing this game.
So this could be good... but more tha likely it will be a trash fucking Arc/Rust/Day Z/Conan Exiles "survival mmo". I.E garbage designed to cater to asshat streamers and the morons who watch them. Can't wait to exit the vault with nothing but the clothes on my back and immediately get killed, camped and tea bagged for 14 hours straight by a team of 12 junior sociopaths playing out their personal fantasy of murdering helpless people because LUL emergent game play is fun.
And...online, so there goes the modding community that kept Fallout (and ES games) selling for years after release, and kept them installed. That's every bit as huge a drawback as online is a positive.
Wonder what the numbers are like on pirate "losses" of their offline games?
I'm not sure BGS fully understands the hazards of PvP open world survival games, particularly ones where you have a persistent, destroyable base.
I bet this'll sell well (at first), but I also bet it'll turn into a troll haven.
Im just confused as to why Super Mutants are on the east coast 25 years after the war? During this time isnt The Master just starting to make them? We need answers Beth.....
Also coop would be fine. Pvp not so much
I thought they confirmed all kinds of NPC bad guys. Just that PvP can be bad guys as well. In fact, they laid out quests that can be done solo. I doubt they are just counting on another player being there.- No NPCs, excluding robots
Yeah, zombies and mutants is my point."there are no NPCs"
"every character you see is a real person, but there are still robots, terminals, holotapes."
Sounds like technically no NPCs aside from robots and zombies, and there is no real escaping there being other players in the beginning.
Also, Skyrim on Alexa is a real thing.
My issue is the locked gamebryo console. The main attractiveness of Bethesda games, in general, is at any time you can self-fix just about any issue. Without access to that very powerful console system, any and all bugs are forever. Bethesda(with a shit track record for bug fixing) is making a very dangerous decision that will probably end badly for them.
Also, I'm not entirely sure they understand their own sales pitch. "You can play your own way". "People can nuke you at any time" do not exist in the same realm of possibility. All in all, they are taking away the singular Bethesda pluses and promising a vague mash of mediocre to fill those voids. We'll see in November if they pull it off.. Until then I remain sceptical.
My background is in programming and I know a little bit about server aggregation and instancing as it relates to online games. My question is, after spending all this time developing a huge Fallout open world with all the Fallout quests and story line, why wouldn't Bethesda take the smallest, tiniest baby step and make the game available for true solo play? I don't mind that it has to be an online game, and I don't mind that there are no NPC cities. For me to be all in on this game, the only things that I would want are a promise for future mods, true solo play, and the ability to find and attract some NPCs to live in my outposts (like Fallout 4). Those pieces are ALL THERE, it would take almost nothing to add them. After spending all this money on development why wouldn't Bethesda make the game the total package for every kind of player? You could even make a true Battle Royale system with hidden name tags and base work that you could do offline to prepare for matches - then your game would have covered every form of audience possible.
I'd eventually try all of them, but for my first play through I want to be alone to discover the world and enjoy it as a true Lone Wanderer.
I didn't see anything about PvP, only COOP, got a pointer?
EDIT: I see it now, had to do my own digging. A lot of guesses going on though, like the statement about no mods, it's just the author's thoughts on it without anything from Bethesda.