New GeForce long time from now, or maybe not...

I hope they wait till GPU crypto mining dies. GPU prices are too stupid right now.
 
I hope that, "Long Time", means some time this year... My poor GTX 980 is just barely hanging on running games on my 3440x1440 ultrawide I picked up earlier this year. It kills me playing games a Medium settings! I could not justify spending ~$1200 CAD on a card that has been out for > 1 year. It seems so unlikely that something better isn't going to come along this year... Pretty much wait and see at this point.
 
There is now news that nVidia will be releasing Gefoce cards on the new 7nm process as soon as this year:

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180608PD211.html

I'm wondering if when Jensen said it would be a "long time" if he was alluding to the fact that they are in fact skipping the 12nm/10nm processes and going straight to 7nm. It appears as though multiple vendors are going with the 7nm process. Perhaps there were problems or minimal gains with the 12nm/10nm processes.
 
SickBeast said:
There is now news that nVidia will be releasing Gefoce cards on the new 7nm process as soon as this year:

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180608PD211.html

I'm wondering if when Jensen said it would be a "long time" if he was alluding to the fact that they are in fact skipping the 12nm/10nm processes and going straight to 7nm. It appears as though multiple vendors are going with the 7nm process. Perhaps there were problems or minimal gains with the 12nm/10nm processes.
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I don't see anywhere in the article that nvidia is skipping 12nm. Yes nvidia will eventually definitely go to 7nm. Mass producing 7nm high end GPUs as soon as this year? I'll believe it when I see it. So far I am highly doubtful you see mass production of cards at 7nm this year. Nvidia already has power/performance and efficiency lead with 14nm. They could easily go with 12 and build on that. For them 7nm is not needed. If they skip to 7nm I suspect they will be releasing new cards next year ahead of Navi.
 
SickBeast said:
There is now news that nVidia will be releasing Gefoce cards on the new 7nm process as soon as this year:

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180608PD211.html

I'm wondering if when Jensen said it would be a "long time" if he was alluding to the fact that they are in fact skipping the 12nm/10nm processes and going straight to 7nm. It appears as though multiple vendors are going with the 7nm process. Perhaps there were problems or minimal gains with the 12nm/10nm processes.
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I would say minimal gains going from 14 to 12nm.
 
Maddness said:
I would say minimal gains going from 14 to 12nm.
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Yea but I don't think anything is going to be mass produced on 7nm this year though for GPUs. If they did decide to go 7nm, we will likely see something right before AMD drops their cards. For Nvidia to drop 12nm and then redo the design for 7nm should push it out minimum 6 month i believe. So it looks like they will drop something right before AMD is ready.
 
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harmattan said:
I do think that nV won't be releasing any new consumer cards for a while, but this guy is really grasping at straws on the supply regulatory rational.

I also think there's a lot of blame to spread around for the stagnation, not just or foremost AMD.
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I think they are purely trying to not impede the sales of the old generation. Card will be released before the holidays unquestionably.
 
NKD said:
I don't see anywhere in the article that nvidia is skipping 12nm. Yes nvidia will eventually definitely go to 7nm. Mass producing 7nm high end GPUs as soon as this year? I'll believe it when I see it. So far I am highly doubtful you see mass production of cards at 7nm this year. Nvidia already has power/performance and efficiency lead with 14nm. They could easily go with 12 and build on that. For them 7nm is not needed. If they skip to 7nm I suspect they will be releasing new cards next year ahead of Navi.
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Just porting GV100 to 7nm will result in a die >500mm2. It'll be a while before Nvidia will have the compression and architecture improvements and TSMC will have the yields ready for a >600mm2 7nm Tesla card that can produce a ~50% improvement on GV100.
 
SickBeast said:
There is now news that nVidia will be releasing Gefoce cards on the new 7nm process as soon as this year:

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180608PD211.html

I'm wondering if when Jensen said it would be a "long time" if he was alluding to the fact that they are in fact skipping the 12nm/10nm processes and going straight to 7nm. It appears as though multiple vendors are going with the 7nm process. Perhaps there were problems or minimal gains with the 12nm/10nm processes.
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I miss the old days when "nm" number actually reflected the technology and not like today where 20/16nm products are PR branded "14, 12, 10, 7 nm"...

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To clarify...look at TMSC's "20 nm" and "16FF".
It should have benne labeled "20FF"
That when all the PR started getting off hand and you cannot use the process name to infeer anything about the process technology anymore…
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Lifelite said:
I hope they wait till GPU crypto mining dies. GPU prices are too stupid right now.
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Been my experience that MSRPricing for the 400/600/700 series stayed at or around MSRP until the newer gen was released. Some purged stock but most kept the pricing where it was. The 10 series is what, 2 years older now and prices ought to therefore be lower than MSRP but I can't recall that ever happening ... maybe my memory is not so good these days

There was an EVGA GTX 1080 FTW for $529 AR at Newegg a week or two ago; I paid $600 just two weeks earlier but I've received so many deals and free return labels from Newegg that I don't consider it a missed opportunity

... all depends on how you view it really :barefoot:
 
Toms hardware seems to think (based upon tweak town) July 30th is launch day of nVidia's new cards...

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-turing-faq,37067.html


We could see the Founders Edition released at first, just like the GTX 1070/1080 in 2016, with custom cards in the months following. But then we come down to the price. Everything that I've heard about the next card is that it will be: faster than the GTX 1080 Ti more expensive than the GTX 1080 Ti might not be called GTX 1180 and might use different numbers think GTX 1185 or GTX 1190

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62196/nvidias-next-gen-gtx-1180-rumors-999-1499-aug-sept/index.html
 
nEo717 said:
Toms hardware seems to think (based upon tweak town) July 30th is launch day of nVidia's new cards...

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-turing-faq,37067.html


We could see the Founders Edition released at first, just like the GTX 1070/1080 in 2016, with custom cards in the months following. But then we come down to the price. Everything that I've heard about the next card is that it will be: faster than the GTX 1080 Ti more expensive than the GTX 1080 Ti might not be called GTX 1180 and might use different numbers think GTX 1185 or GTX 1190

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62196/nvidias-next-gen-gtx-1180-rumors-999-1499-aug-sept/index.html
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Yeah, doesn't sound too crazy.

I know that Maxwell 2 went upper-midrange first, but that was because it was so much more efficient than Kepler (dropped 256-bit to 128 for 100% reduction!, and 384-bit to 256). Then you could bump prices back up with a new 384-bit monster later.

But Pascal was only a minor bump (for equivalent performance, %50 reduction in memory bus across-the-board, or less). So you'd expect lower returns with each new architecture. Since the cost savings of reduced memory bus isn't there this time around, you start high and expensive.

Based on how hard they were to find just a month ago, Nvidia doesn't need a cost-reduced 1080 Ti, they need a faster card. And after the Titan V, it's practically cheap! This especially makes sense if GDDR6 supplies are very limited.
 
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https://seekingalpha.com/article/4182662-nvidia-appears-gpu-inventory-problem
Well apparently its a glut of inventory... Considering mining hasn't collapsed just yet, things might get worse.
Now, if i know nVidia at all, there won't be any discounts, there won't be any cheap cards at any point.. i think what they may do is roll out the new line of cards at even higher prices, and if anything they will destroy old inventory if it comes to that.
 
Wow they returned 300k Gpus lol I didn't even think they made that many actually. Bitcoin fury really caught up to everyone.
 
Comixbooks said:
Wow they returned 300k Gpus lol I didn't even think they made that many actually. Bitcoin fury really caught up to everyone.
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Yeah, i don't know what do you do with 300k gpus... I am sure they will figure out how to sell them with out affecting retail prices... OEMs something like that maybe?
 
Canon said:
My poor GTX 980 is just barely hanging on running games on my 3440x1440 ultrawide I picked up earlier this year. It kills me playing games a Medium settings!
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So... drop res to 2560x1080 on high settings and problem solved?

Comixbooks said:
Wow they returned 300k Gpus lol I didn't even think they made that many actually. Bitcoin fury really caught up to everyone.
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Frankly I’m glad. We’ve been feeling the pain for more than a year, unable to buy anything that’s not overpriced. They could’ve used their influence to guarantee MSRP prices from some sellers and they didn’t. Let them take a sizable hit for overproduction: they’ve been riding the wave leaving us to hang dry, now let them suffer for it.
 
Getting somewhat excitting with the pending 1180. Would be more interested in the 1180 Ti, $999??? When?
 
noko said:
Getting somewhat excitting with the pending 1180. Would be more interested in the 1180 Ti, $999??? When?
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1180 looks to be coming out at the 1080 Ti current pricing, I'd expect 1180 Ti to come out at the current Titan Xp pricing.
 
Anecdotal sure but my friend does a lot of AI/Neural Network and he told me they are expecting to order new cards in August.

All this "not releasing new cards" probably has more to do with the massive glut of inventory Nvidia is currently holding or is stuck at OEMs.
 
MTDEW said:
I guess I may as well throw some fuel on the fire too. :rolleyes:

GTX 1180 Release Date, Specs & Price!
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support for DX12.5 and DX13?...plus ray-tracing?...this might be the last GPU upgrade anyone will ever need :D
 
nEo717 said:
we need Intel to do well with their Gaming Card they intend to bring to market in early 2019...
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it would help make up for the i7 series that used toothpaste for thermal grease and forced enthusiast folks who paid a premium for the K versions to delid their CPU (and loose the warranty by so doing said mod)
 
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