Teased Again by Bethesda on Fallout 76

Guarana [BAWLS] said:
Pragmatic Brain Says: "New" Game. Because if it's an Expansion, it would fall under the season pass, so less money.

I mean, I have the season pass, so I'd be 110% up for a new expansion, but.... I doubt it.
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Yeah as more details have emerged its obviously a spinoff game set in the Fallout universe. It's sounding like it will fall somewhere on the spectrum between ARK/Rust and Battle Royale.
 
Guarana [BAWLS] said:
Pragmatic Brain Says: "New" Game. Because if it's an Expansion, it would fall under the season pass, so less money.

I mean, I have the season pass, so I'd be 110% up for a new expansion, but.... I doubt it.
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Didnt stop other companies from having you buy another season past for more DLC. What got people is FO4 had a $50 season pass and really didn't get much value for it. On top of the fact the game sucked too.
 
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DPI said:
Opinions.... FO4 has consistently been in Steam Top10 and Top15 for years.
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I honestly don't see the appeal of FO and ES games. The production values are shit. The engine is a old buggy pos. pos. Story and characters are lifeless and boring. I just don't get it. Great concept especially for FO but poor execution.
 
I've decided to be pre-disappointed with whatever this is.

If it turns out to be an actual game like others I'll be pleasantly surprised. If it is the expected fortnite-but-HEY-FALLOUT, I'll not weep softly like I did after the Starship Troopers incident. Still smarting from that one.
 
vegeta535 said:
I honestly don't see the appeal of FO and ES games. The production values are shit. The engine is a old buggy pos. pos. Story and characters are lifeless and boring. I just don't get it. Great concept especially for FO but poor execution.
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That's what always bothered me about Bethesda's version of Fallout, the more you play it the more you end up realizing that its a game full of concepts that arent executed to their fullest extent.
 
Guarana [BAWLS] said:
Fallout 1 & 2 were nothing like 3, Vegas, or 4. (And people ride FO:NV's dick like it's their job.)
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New Vegas was decent from a story telling standpoint, I found Mr. House to be an intriguing character. But that god awful engine...ugh
 
Krenum said:
Agreed, Fallout 4 sucked. And I'll bet you most of the reviewers on Steam never played the first two.
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I have one of the unpopular opinions that Fallout 4 was BETTER than New Vegas. With New Vegas I got tired of being a desert errand boy after about 65 hours, and then rushed to complete the main quests and finish it, and never looked back.

With Fallout 4 I had 125 hours into it, was still digging it, not getting tired of it yet, and had actually planned on continuing to play working on my settlements and building them up for fun, and hunting down more side quests, but I got busy at worked and it dropped off my current interest list after a while.

So, by the half objective half subjective measure of how many hours until I got bored, it did much better than New Vegas for me.

The music was WAY better in New Vegas though. Even just typing this I've got "big iron" stuck in my head.
 
I want a game that will stretch the limits of my pc hardware.

Well optimized and great graphics.

Something like Far Cry 5, but a bit more "in depth".

A good story with sweet shooting mechanics.

If they wanted to throw in multi-player support so my wife could help with the campaign, that would be great too.

So I'll end up disappointed.
 
FO4 is getting better with mods like 'Fusion City' & 'Remnants', as long as the mod community supports FO4, I'm staying away from this mmo like it has 7 kinds of stds. Too bad, I was looking forward to an updated FO.
 
By the sounds of it, I think it might be a gameplay style like Ark, Rust, Conan exiles. That is just my guess?
 
pek said:
FO4 is getting better with mods like 'Fusion City' & 'Remnants', as long as the mod community supports FO4, I'm staying away from this mmo like it has 7 kinds of stds. Too bad, I was looking forward to an updated FO.
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MMO?
 
Yea I don't think it will be an MMO. I honestly do not see it being an MMO at all. Not if you can build
 
PhaseNoise said:
I know Bethesda games are widely decried by many, but dammit, I love them. I love exploring big ol worlds, fiddling around, and eventually modding the everloving F out of it and playing something that barely resembles the original for another 5 years.
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I have been playing again the last several days. I always keep coming back to their products until replaced by new ones.
 
Brackle said:
Yea I don't think it will be an MMO. I honestly do not see it being an MMO at all. Not if you can build
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You could have MMO building. Would be one massive world, for sure. I think it's time for 32GB of RAM :)
 
ryno9100 said:
Lots of speculation that this game is not going to be the single player RPG experience we're used to. Here's hoping they're wrong.

The only thing keeping me from being hyped about this game is that the final slide shows Bethesda Game Studios, but not Obsidian. I'll likely buy it regardless, but New Vegas was incredible, and to see Obsidian have a chance to make a new Fallout would be awesome.
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Maybe, but when Elder Scrolls Online came out I so wanted Skyrim with friends and what I got was a luke warm turd in comparison. I tried loading it back up a few months ago, made it a couple hours and uninstalled it again cause it sucks as far as I care.

So although I love me some single player FO4, I could do it with a friend or two just fine. Not that MMO bullshit approach, I mean FO4 with a friend or two. But that's me.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I have one of the unpopular opinions that Fallout 4 was BETTER than New Vegas.
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My feeling also. Maybe Fallout: New Vegas had better atmosphere, but Fallout 4 was the better game.

To the people who hate Fallout 4 and Bethesda products in general I can only say that a lot of us really like it. So much so that I don't want Bethesda to come up with a 'different' version of Fallout, I just want a similar, updated version of Fallout with new quests and new adventures. Go enjoy what you like and leave us alone, Bethesda's products must appeal to some people, since Fallout 4 had $750 million in sales its first week. Single player RPG dead? I don't think so.

Give me a big open world to goof off in, and I'm sold.
 
Hopefully they have been taking their sweet time to make a new engine. Or adapt unreal or something. Anything but current bodge engine.
 
I liked Fallout 4. Not better than 3 IMO, but definitely better than NV.

From reading the thread, guess I should be thankful I never played 1 or 2. I will definitely check this new one out.
 
Tweak155 said:
From reading the thread, guess I should be thankful I never played 1 or 2. I will definitely check this new one out.
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Most people I know say FO2 is the best of the best. I missed that boat myself. Been curious if it holds up though.
 
Tweak155 said:
From reading the thread, guess I should be thankful I never played 1 or 2. I will definitely check this new one out.
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Which is interesting because I remember a huge outcry from "the fans" when it switched from isometric turn-based to FPS/3rd person shooter, saying Bethesda was killing the franchise.
 
Online means no mods, or mods controlled by Bethesda only. I may have misspoke when I called it an mmo, but I tend to lump anything not single player as an mmo.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
I have one of the unpopular opinions that Fallout 4 was BETTER than New Vegas. With New Vegas I got tired of being a desert errand boy after about 65 hours, and then rushed to complete the main quests and finish it, and never looked back.

With Fallout 4 I had 125 hours into it, was still digging it, not getting tired of it yet, and had actually planned on continuing to play working on my settlements and building them up for fun, and hunting down more side quests, but I got busy at worked and it dropped off my current interest list after a while.

So, by the half objective half subjective measure of how many hours until I got bored, it did much better than New Vegas for me.

The music was WAY better in New Vegas though. Even just typing this I've got "big iron" stuck in my head.
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I had the opposite problem. Tried for about 20-30 hours or so to get into Fallout 4 with different characters and approaches and I just couldn't do it. I finally decided I wasn't going to enjoy myself like previous games, so I resolved to grind the achievements out just so I could finish it. I was so sick and tired of the gameplay about halfway through. I honestly don't know how I was able to manage getting all the achievements without shooting myself in the head.

With New Vegas I took the time to savor the game as I worked toward getting every ending, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
 
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lcpiper said:
Maybe, but when Elder Scrolls Online came out I so wanted Skyrim with friends and what I got was a luke warm turd in comparison. I tried loading it back up a few months ago, made it a couple hours and uninstalled it again cause it sucks as far as I care.

So although I love me some single player FO4, I could do it with a friend or two just fine. Not that MMO bullshit approach, I mean FO4 with a friend or two. But that's me.
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FO with a friend or two would be awesome. Fallout as an MMO could be good, but given what ESO turned out to be, I wouldn't be hopeful. We'll know more at Bethesda's E3 Showing. June 10th, I believe.
 
IcePickFreak said:
Which is interesting because I remember a huge outcry from "the fans" when it switched from isometric turn-based to FPS/3rd person shooter, saying Bethesda was killing the franchise.
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People like different types of games. No surprise there.

I enjoy Fallout 3 and on (I never played the originals) but I think I would enjoy them more if they were 100% FPS (no 3rd person view, no VATS) and if they were more realistic, more gritty and less goofy.
 
Armenius said:
We get a new Fallout after just 3 years, but close to 7 years on we haven't yet even heard about a new Elder Scrolls? I think Bethesda need to get their priorities straight...
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They've said they won't do a ES5 untill the technology for their vison is in place, but that they are already in the conceptualization faze.
 
Mong00se said:
They've said they won't do a ES5 untill the technology for their vison is in place, but that they are already in the conceptualization faze.
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You mean ES6. Skyrim was 5.

The technology is there, they just don't want to put the time and effort into making a competent engine. No matter what they say, the Creation engine is still branched off of the one originally used in Daggerfall. It may be sadder than Call of Duty still branching off of the id Tech 3 engine.
 
ryno9100 said:
FO with a friend or two would be awesome. Fallout as an MMO could be good, but given what ESO turned out to be, I wouldn't be hopeful. We'll know more at Bethesda's E3 Showing. June 10th, I believe.
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Exactly, I mean .... how many Lone Survivors hoping around and shooting cactus can you take while you try to fight your way to complete a silly quest?
 
Armenius said:
I had the opposite problem. Tried for about 20-30 hours or so to get into Fallout 4 with different characters and approaches and I just couldn't do it. I finally decided I wasn't going to enjoy myself like previous games, so I resolved to grind the achievements out just so I could finish it. I was so sick and tired of the gameplay about halfway through. I honestly don't know how I was able to manage getting all the achievements without shooting myself in the head.

With New Vegas I took the time to savor the game as I worked toward getting every ending, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
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You and I look for very different things from this game. For instance, the achievements are invisible to me, I don't look for them, try to earn them, or care what they are. I am not interested in them and they are just not on my RADAR. I understand that there was something lacking in what you look for in this game and that earning the achievements was something you decided to do short of just completely abandoning the game, that you felt you wanted something out of it for your money and that you found the experience lacking.

As others said in their own way above, and you yourself basically hit on, we all have what we want as an experience, some of us get it, and some don't. The ones that don't get what they were hoping for see the game as a failure but those that did get what they wanted are still playing and still enjoying what Bethesda delivered even if it is with a big helping hand from some modders.

It will probably be the same for me soon with Anthem. I saw early videos hyping the game and am hoping they can deliver on what they showed us, a friendly coop title where a few friends can load up and go hunting together. But it's an EA game and I think there is a very good chance that reality isn't going to measure up at all.
 
pek said:
Online means no mods, or mods controlled by Bethesda only. I may have misspoke when I called it an mmo, but I tend to lump anything not single player as an mmo.
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That's what has me worried. Modding Bethesda games is half the fun. I bet their going to have paid mods only with their Creation BS. That's gonna piss me off.
 
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