Deadpool Viewed on Facebook Over 6M Times

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So this guy uploads the Deadpool movie to his Facebook account, and now faces a one year prison sentence. Fair deal, uploading a movie on a public social account during its premiere week is a stupid thing to do. But isn't the real story here that Facebook left it on their pages long enough for it to be viewed 6,386,456 times? It would seem to be that Facebook is just as at fault here as is 22 year old Trevon Franklin, that should have known better. Facebook hosting free movies is cool, but Trevon gets stuck in the pokey. This just does not feel right.


“Between February 20 and 22, 2016, while Deadpool was still in theaters and had not yet been made available for purchase by the public for home viewing, the copy of Deadpool defendant posted to his Facebook page had been viewed over 6,386,456 times,” the paperwork reads.
 
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Was going to say just fine him 2x the amount of movie tickets for each time the movie was viewed, but then I saw how many times it was.....
Ya, I think FB needs to do a better job flagging shit, but then again, the second I say "fuck Islam" on my own page about a women getting killed for insulting said religion, the post gets yanked and another 30 day ban.
 
How do you propose Facebook didn’t let this get posted?

Hashes? Impossible.

Size limits or time limits? Easy to circumvent.

Audio match ups like YouTube? Sure if they have it and the user doesn’t play with the speed slightly or pitch to throw off the match.

Preview all videos before they are posted or live-streamed? Manpower restraint.

It’s a tough spot for Facebook. Nobody would assume they intentionally left that up a moment longer than it needed to be after it was discovered.
 
Master_shake_ said:
Kim dotcom.
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that's "has money"

but not MONEY

additionally, facebook as a sort of power.... or contacts, much higher up...which is what I was getting at... money + contacts



point is....facebook was likely notified of it... and thought "we need to stop this now!" and someone was saying "wait how many views right now?" "3 million and counting sir/ma'am"

"let it continue, would be bad customer relations if we cut everyone off"

cue in the lawyers to draft up some shit, cue in riaa/mpaa/whoever is in charge of this these days "k...facebook was just a platform, they are not responsible for whats uploaded, burn the uploader"


you know...that kinda shit

/endpsychoconspiracythoughts
 
Archaea said:
How do you propose Facebook didn’t let this get posted?

Hashes? Impossible.

Size limits or time limits? Easy to circumvent.

Audio match ups like YouTube? Sure if they have it and the user doesn’t play with the speed slightly or pitch to throw off the match.

Preview all videos before they are posted or live-streamed? Manpower restraint.

It’s a tough spot for Facebook. Nobody would assume they intentionally left that up a moment longer than it needed to be after it was discovered.
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Dunno. I have to imagine videos of that length have to be an extremely low percent of videos posted on Facebook. Couple the time of the movie + millions of views, seems like a pretty basic check to have in place that wouldn't generate a huge number of false positives.

But what do I know about managing billions of users. :eek:
 
oldmanbal said:
How much add revenue did facebook generate from that many views?
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That's a great point. 6 million views is in the ballpark of $6000-$60000 going by YouTube's CPM, and it could be above the high end of that since there's no cutout for the user involved here.

Seeding is one thing, but if an individual made that much profit off a pirated video, your can bet your bum they'd get serious jail time. Those media institutions are serious as heck about other people using their IP for profit.

What's more, alot of other companies advertise on Facebook.


In other words, one could argue that Facebook took money from business around the world, turned around and used it to illegally host and distribute copyrighted material while making a healthy profit.

It's not that simple... But that's what it is, more or less.
 
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Or you know droop the six month movie theater exclusive and sell it for like 40 bucks. I went and saw Deadpool in theaters opening night and it was terrible. A group of people kept talk the whole time a girl kept pulling out her phone the whole time ect. Every time I go its the same thing people are dicks and it really kills the movie.
 
brucethemoose said:
In other words, one could argue that Facebook took money from business around the world, turned around and used it to illegally host and distribute copyrighted material while making a healthy profit.

It's not that simple... But that's what it is, more or less.
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No....

It isn’t.

Let’s say you owned Best Buy.

A paying customer came in the store to buy drugs from another paying customer. You didn’t know about the drug purchase until after the fact when another customer reported it to you. Should you, Best Buy, pay restitution to the city for sponsoring/harboring the drug deal?


In law there is such a thing as due diligence. If Facebook is policing their uploads (they are) as well as can be reasonably expected - then they are not held responsible for the event.
 
tunatime said:
Or you know droop the six month movie theater exclusive and sell it for like 40 bucks. I went and saw Deadpool in theaters opening night and it was terrible. A group of people kept talk the whole time a girl kept pulling out her phone the whole time ect. Every time I go its the same thing people are dicks and it really kills the movie.
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yeah i know that feeling, i just wait til it's been out 3+ weeks then go see it in an empty theater.
 
Guy was retarded for doing that. But a year in jail? Nah. I like the 1000 hours of community service, plus take a hammer to his phone. Maybe throw his PC into a woodchipper too.

Never really understood jail time for basic joe blow piracy antics. If you're running black market shit selling the stuff, sure. Jail all day. But John Q Retard uploads a video somewhere for the lulz? No. Community service, break his shit, and embarrass him. Good enough.
 
Archaea said:
No....

It isn’t.

Let’s say you owned Best Buy.

A paying customer came in the store to buy drugs from another paying customer. You didn’t know about the drug purchase until after the fact when another customer reported it to you. Should you, Best Buy, pay restitution to the city for sponsoring/harboring the drug deal?


In law there is such a thing as due diligence. If Facebook is policing their uploads (they are) as well as can be reasonably expected - then they are not held responsible for the event.
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This is more like a drug dealer barging in to the Best Buy lobby, and handing out drugs to hundreds of people, right at the entrance in plain daylight.

And then Best Buy makes some sales from the sheer foot traffic alone, before they notice and shut it down.

6 million views isn't something that should just slip through the cracks like some obscure upload. They made thousands of dollars off of it, enough to pay an employee for a month or maybe even a year.



I'm not saying Facebook can filter nearly everything: the signal to noise ratio must be insane. But they should at least have some staff keeping an eye out for rotten big fish like that. Maybe require a human staff member to check a video when it passes 500,000 views or some other "hotness" metric.
 
I'm pretty sure that would be covered in the terms of use; legal concequences from shit you upload is on you, not Facebook, as with every hosting service ever.
 
brucethemoose said:
This is more like a drug dealer barging in to the Best Buy lobby, and handing out drugs to hundreds of people, right at the entrance in plain daylight.

And then Best Buy makes some sales from the sheer foot traffic alone, before they notice and shut it down.

6 million views isn't something that should just slip through the cracks like some obscure upload. They made thousands of dollars off of it, enough to pay an employee for a month or maybe even a year.



I'm not saying Facebook can filter nearly everything: the signal to noise ratio must be insane. But they should at least have some staff keeping an eye out for rotten big fish like that. Maybe require a human staff member to check a video when it passes 500,000 views or some other "hotness" metric.
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Unfortunately for us all, the "eyes" have all been directed in a certain direction.
The algorithm, is a joke.
All of the "huff'N'puff" is directed in a certain direction.
 
“Between February 20 and 22, 2016, while Deadpool was still in theaters and had not yet been made available for purchase by the public for home viewing, the copy of Deadpool defendant posted to his Facebook page had been viewed over 6,386,456 times,” the paperwork reads.

If I'm reading that correctly it was up for one full day and only part of two other days. A total of well under 3 days, likely more like 2 days.

That's not too bad to identify and remove it. It's almost unbelievable this doesn't happen more often.

What IS totally amazing is that a Facebook account link was shared around the world such that the video was viewed that many times that quickly. It's not like it was a Youtube video. It was a Facebook link. Bonkers.
 
DuronBurgerMan said:
Never really understood jail time for basic joe blow piracy antics. If you're running black market shit selling the stuff, sure. Jail all day. But John Q Retard uploads a video somewhere for the lulz? No. Community service, break his shit, and embarrass him. Good enough.
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You don't understand, we have to stop piracy at any cost. Because of his harmful actions, Deadpool only became the highest grossing R rated movie ever.
 
Archaea said:
Nobody would assume they intentionally left that up a moment longer than it needed to be after it was discovered.
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Revenue from ads, so some conflict of interest there.
Not arguing they left it longer than needed, but I'll not assume they were eager to remove it while making money off of it.
 
Can't he just say it's not work related and delete it along with the other 33,000 emails? or does that rule only apply if he posted it to Facebook as a email link to Hillary's server just wondering how this whole law and order thing works around here.
 
How the fuck did this happen... Just how? Facebook would not allow a pre-k show of the kids dacing to some cuts of music... I am guessing its computers doing that, yet a whole movie passes by?
 
well now that dude will get some uploads of his own in the F/SAPP program... (Federal/State Ass Pound Prison)
 
Mut1ny said:
If websites like TPB get shut down for not even having any media on them how the hell does Facebook get away with hosting it?
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Because while Facebook is suffering an image problem in the media right now the prosecutors knows who butters their overlords bread.
 
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