Is it really worth going to Window 10 from Windows 7

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Watch me, sonny. But also, get off my damn lawn!

Its all fun until you build a new system and the they dont make drivers for 7 anymore. There were a lot of hold outs with XP, and even they had to yield to 7 since hardware built after Vista rarely had driver support. I think its going to be even faster of a turn around with 10 since Microsoft doesnt even officially support anything newer than Haswell.
 
There were a lot of hold outs with XP, and even they had to yield to 7 since hardware built after Vista rarely had driver support.

Right here, though it was Win7 games that made me go dual-boot and eventually fully migrated to 7. I bet something like Valve's VR titles will force me to go Win10, at least for the gaming rig.


Microsoft doesnt even officially support anything newer than Haswell.

Just as well there's nothing worth upgrading to much past that then :D
 
I wish Microsoft would just go back to making a regular operating system and not try and turn your computer into a "device".

I can see the headlines now "Microsoft goes back to making a regular operating system." As the collective world gives a shit head down on their tracking devices, I mean phones.

Really, who the hell cares about "a regular operating system?" The tiny minority online that will weigh in on such things, sure.
 
I bet something like Valve's VR titles will force me to go Win10, at least for the gaming rig.

I can recall few titles in my VR library that list Windows 10 as required except Superhot VR which is amazing, a must play VR title I think. WMR, which are the cheapest VR options going now for PCs are Windows 10 only. But they aren't nearly as good as the Rift or Vive currently from what I've read. The Vive Pro is fucking amazing I think, compared to the Rift and original Vive and those I know pretty well. DX 11 is what everyone is currently using for VR right now, like conventional desktop games. So Windows 7 is viable.

For me after plucking down $2k in VR headsets, fuck Windows 7 at that point.
 
Gotta be said - Linux is the future. :cool:

It's the future tonight for me anyway.

I built a hot gaming PC last summer and threw on Win 10/64. Which worked pretty much flawlessly until this last Saturday, at least as a bootable OS. But on Saturday I got a "PAGE FAULT" error, and automatic repair couldn't fix it. So I tried the System Restore point, which couldn't either.

It's currently a BAD SYSTEM CONFIG INFO error...blah blah blah.

So I missed both my league (sim) races and will have to reinstall Win 10 from the beginning. Annoying, but not a major crisis...except that the Win 10 box (with my USB stick) is not where it should be (along with all the rest of the PC build boxes.) Doh!

So...I moved the race PC down to the cable modem (bad cables too maybe), and booted up with a Linux Mint 14 live CD (not DVD)...which worked well enough to DL Mint 18.3 and throw it onto a USB stick (which took very little time)...and...VOILA! I'm up and running again and even typing this on that same OS (took less than five minutes to make myself a back USB stick too--it copied the whole install to stick in little more time than it took me to blink).

If I hadn't already tried the first stick build, I wouldn't have trusted the second one, it was that fast.

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What this DOES do--Linux Mint 18.3 Cinammon/64 in my case--is let you verify the integrity of your files on whatever your main OS disk was...before reinstalling. All my steam apps are there, all the tracks, configs, etc...and so I know that I can reinstall Win 10 somewhere else, and not risk screwing all the rest up. In fact, before I do (I plan to install W10 to an SSD this time), I will remove the main disk electrically from the system.

I SHOULD have already had the Linux sticks built for just such an event as this, but because I did have a Mint CD, I was able to bootstrap back in pretty easily, even though Windows is still hosed.

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As for why W10: VR. I don't see Win7, as much as I liked it, ever supporting 4K VR, and that's what I'm looking forward to. Or 4K 3D projection as an alternative.
 
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As for why W10: VR. I don't see Win7, as must as I liked it, ever supporting 4K VR, and that's what I'm looking forward to. Or 4K 3D projection as an alternative.

This is how I look at things. I love VR and the future of it, whatever that is, will not be on Windows 7, even if that future isn't on the PC. The present of PCVR is still MIA on Linux.

Given all the reports of how fucked up Windows 19 is, I'd love to just boot off a Linux Live CD and run VR games. Or even conventional games. Not really sure how Linux is you future if you think PC VR is going anywhere.
 
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Installed Windows 10 today and noticed that there's now a Microsoft Edge icon on the desktop that was never there before. FFS Microsoft, I can make up my own mind as to what browser I intend to use. The harder you push, the more likely I am not to use your product.
 
Installed Windows 10 today and noticed that there's now a Microsoft Edge icon on the desktop that was never there before. FFS Microsoft, I can make up my own mind as to what browser I intend to use. The harder you push, the more likely I am not to use your product.

Pretty sure that even Windows 98 put an Internet Explorer icon on your desktop 20 years ago.
 
Pretty sure that even Windows 98 put an Internet Explorer icon on your desktop 20 years ago.

Yeah, back when it was virtually the only option available after Microsoft killed Netscape. People actually used Microsoft browsers back then.
 
Pretty sure that even Windows 98 put an Internet Explorer icon on your desktop 20 years ago.

Well ya they did... well until they ended up in court anyway. :)

Really though people still throw crap on a "desktop"... MS pushing bad housekeeping since win 3.1 (yes I'm joking... well not really)
 
This is how I look at things. I love VR and the future of it, whatever that is, will not be on Windows 7, even if that future isn't on the PC. The present of PCVR is still MIA on Linux.

Given all the reports of how fucked up Windows 19 is, I'd love to just boot off a Linux Live CD and run VR games. Or even conventional games. Not really sure how Linux is you future if you think PC VR is going anywhere.

Bit of a lame joke, that, though it is my only currently working OS...but that was really in response to Deadjasper's comment/re-hash of the old joke about Linux "breaking through at any moment."

No, I don't currently think Linux and gaming VR are going anywhere soon, though I do believe they will eventually meld. But Microsoft has the inside track, will try to keep things proprietary for as long as they can, and will generally control the direction of development for some years yet. So Windows 10 and its successors will be necessary if you plan to explore cutting edge gaming VR tech in the near future...and that's why you want W10 instead of W7, IMO.

How or if other types of VR (architectural VR, design VR, medical VR) might already work--or not--with Linux, I do not know. I'd be interested to find out, but it's also something of a low priority for me, as my primary planned use of VR is with sims/games, at least for the near future.

I have a little bit of experience with a Pimax 4K headset here, and though it's certainly intriguing, I don't currently race with it--I'm still a life-size projected image racer.

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VR is really three things rolled into one, IMO: 1) life-size (or nearly life-size) imaging...because it's strapped to your face; 2) 3D...which I always find amusing. I personally LOVE good 3D, and have used it for sim-racing even since the days 1024x768 4:3 projection...when I could get it to work. The amusing part is that so many of the same folks who "would never wear those dorky sutterglasses" are quite fine strapping an even dorkier box onto their face.... :D ; 3) VR is also SURROUND imaging, and that's where my preferred projection solutions start to lose ground. Surround projection can be done using projection domes/half-domes and image distortion software, yes, but it's hardly seamless, and may not work at all with a given app...and it's the racing (flight sims second) I still most prefer.
 
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I've got a pretty great Microsoft account story. Patriots were gonna play in the SB, year, two years ago, can't remember. Anyway, I had W7 on my machine at home, and W10 on my laptop. I had a super-crappy internet connection, and I haven't had cable or even a TV antenna in years, but I decided I wanted to watch the game at my sister's house, because I ran a web search that said I could watch the game online for free if I did bla bla ba.

So, I got there AN HOUR EARLY because I'd seen that you needed a MS account to make this happen, and I know what a clusterfuck MS is, so I was like "hahaha bitch you're not gonna fuck up my game." It took me like 45 minutes, dicking around with all the crap I had to do, and I wound up missing the first few minutes of the game. Point being, MS will find new depths to fail to.

But that's not even the story. The story is that the shitbirds at MS actually took the account that I created and made it into the password on my laptop, without asking me. I shit you not. Keep in mind, I only created the account to use the once and I was done with it after that, as far as I was concerned. I didn't write the password down, and probably wouldn't have even if I knew WTF my sister kept her pens.
So now, next time I reboot, I've got a login staring me in the face. Suddenly I've got a laptop that I can't sign into because guess what, Microshit decided to just slide a password onto it. Holy shit, I was pissed. I don't think I've ever been that pissed about a technical SNAFU in my entire life. I'm glad I didn't have a coronary. That pretty much killed any live and let live sentiments I had left toward Micropenis.

(Yeah, eventually I got it all sorted out. No, I don't remember what all I had to do. I don't think it wound up being as bad as I expected...I dimly recall getting lucky with some aspect of the SNAFU and kinda side-stepping it)

Oh, and to top it all off, I left at halftime because the Pats were getting their asses kicked so hard. That's right, you guessed it...that was the year they had the greatest comeback in the history of the playoffs...in the second half.

Clear PEBKAC issue, clearly. It is not their fault you did not document your password and also, you clearly setup the account through the account settings in the settings panel. Therefore, yes, you did allow the MS Account to be used as your primary account and also, it even asked you for your local account password before switching.

Besides, the Pat's suck. ;) :D :)
 
I have windows 7 on my desktop and win 10 on my laptop, win 10 sucks a fat one, wish i could downgrade my laptop but i dont think theres drivers for all the hardware in the laptop on win 7. might have to learn linux/unix/whatever and give that a try, i just use the laptop for streaming tv to my tv in my rv anyway, ha!
 
I have windows 7 on my desktop and win 10 on my laptop, win 10 sucks a fat one, wish i could downgrade my laptop but i dont think theres drivers for all the hardware in the laptop on win 7. might have to learn linux/unix/whatever and give that a try, i just use the laptop for streaming tv to my tv in my rv anyway, ha!

Have Mythtv backed for recording/Live TV with a tuner card and several Kodi frontends for that. Works great.
 
Have Mythtv backed for recording/Live TV with a tuner card and several Kodi frontends for that. Works great.

I need to perfect my system, im using kodi on my laptop but none of the new shit i read about works on there, its all for android versions or im too dumb to figure it out. I mostly use netflix or torrents, my kodi install works sporadically, takes forever to load sources and generally has a shitty quality video feed or the source sends too slow and it stops and buffers all the time anyway. Torrents work great when the pirate bay isnt offline, lol! I just have an hdmi from laptop to tv with wireless keyboard and mouse. works great.
 
Bit of a lame joke, that, though it is my only currently working OS...but that was really in response to Deadjasper's comment/re-hash of the old joke about Linux "breaking through at any moment."

No, I don't currently think Linux and gaming VR are going anywhere soon, though I do believe they will eventually meld. But Microsoft has the inside track, will try to keep things proprietary for as long as they can, and will generally control the direction of development for some years yet. So Windows 10 and its successors will be necessary if you plan to explore cutting edge gaming VR tech in the near future...and that's why you want W10 instead of W7, IMO.

How or if other types of VR (architectural VR, design VR, medical VR) might already work--or not--with Linux, I do not know. I'd be interested to find out, but it's also something of a low priority for me, as my primary planned use of VR is with sims/games, at least for the near future.

I have a little bit of experience with a Pimax 4K headset here, and though it's certainly intriguing, I don't currently race with it--I'm still a life-size projected image racer.

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VR is really three things rolled into one, IMO: 1) life-size (or nearly life-size) imaging...because it's strapped to your face; 2) 3D...which I always find amusing. I personally LOVE good 3D, and have used it for sim-racing even since the days 1024x768 4:3 projection...when I could get it to work. The amusing part is that so many of the same folks who "would never wear those dorky sutterglasses" are quite fine strapping an even dorkier box onto their face.... :D ; 3) VR is also SURROUND imaging, and that's where my preferred projection solutions start to lose ground. Surround projection can be done using projection domes/half-domes and image distortion software, yes, but it's hardly seamless, and may not work at all with a given app...and it's the racing (flight sims second) I still most prefer.

This generation of VR was started two years ago by Oculus, HTC and Valve. Microsoft didn't get into the market with its Windows 10 only WMR headsets until about 7 months ago. Oculus had originally planned Linux support but dropped it. And the state of Steam VR with the Vive on Linux is still pretty much beta after over a year. There simply are enough Linux gamers out there to support something like VR.
 
I need to perfect my system, im using kodi on my laptop but none of the new shit i read about works on there, its all for android versions or im too dumb to figure it out. I mostly use netflix or torrents, my kodi install works sporadically, takes forever to load sources and generally has a shitty quality video feed or the source sends too slow and it stops and buffers all the time anyway. Torrents work great when the pirate bay isnt offline, lol! I just have an hdmi from laptop to tv with wireless keyboard and mouse. works great.

as always its a continual hunt for the latest and greatest working plugins, thats all. there is a perl script avail that will get you a working guide by scraping the zap2it website.
 
If nothing you use or plan on using needs Win 10, then keep Win 7. It is stable and very unlikely to get a major face lift. Win 10 is subject to at least 2 major revisions a year plus random feature updates/additions/removals with each update/patch cycle. Even at some future date, you need a Win 10 feature, might consider installing a VM manager on your Win 7 box and running a VM of Win 10 for the special need.

Microsoft still seems to be trying to figure out what they want Win 10 to be. They frequently add and remove features which may or may not impact gizmos you wanted to use. Listening to their quarterly stock reports leads me to believe that Microsoft is moving to being a company that gets most of its revenue from cloud stuff. So I would expect Win 10 to become more focused on offering cloud stuff or even requiring it for things now done local. Wonder what their plan will be for folks stuck with crap ISP speeds?
 
If nothing you use or plan on using needs Win 10, then keep Win 7. It is stable and very unlikely to get a major face lift. Win 10 is subject to at least 2 major revisions a year plus random feature updates/additions/removals with each update/patch cycle.

I know there have been changes to group policies, Cortana, etc. but I've been using Windows 10 for three years now and outside of homegroups, which really aren't necessary for home networking anyway, I can't think of anything I use in Windows that's been removed. I know there have been other things but I don't think the feature set is nearly as unstable as what you're saying.
Microsoft still seems to be trying to figure out what they want Win 10 to be.

It's an operating system that has for decades supported hardware and software for PCs. Windows 10 still does that. In the era of mobile, cloud and AI, Windows is being adapted to support those things.
 
windows 10 will help you keep your data safe. How by making copies of everything and spying on literally everything you do.
it will install updates right in the middle of you doing something and you can go F yourself.
overall is exactly what you don't want but thought you needed.

I just thought winders 8 was a pos.
 

I know there have been changes to group policies, Cortana, etc. but I've been using Windows 10 for three years now and outside of homegroups, which really aren't necessary for home networking anyway, I can't think of anything I use in Windows that's been removed. I know there have been other things but I don't think the feature set is nearly as unstable as what you're saying.


It's an operating system that has for decades supported hardware and software for PCs. Windows 10 still does that. In the era of mobile, cloud and AI, Windows is being adapted to support those things.

thats where they fucked up in my opinion, the mobile and tablet features are just fucking retarded on a desktop, they shouldve kept the win 7 desktop style and added the ability to use either it or the new mobile garbage. No ones buying windows mobile devices anyway, lol
 
as always its a continual hunt for the latest and greatest working plugins, thats all. there is a perl script avail that will get you a working guide by scraping the zap2it website.

Im gonna send you a msg and ask more about this if you dont mind helping me out a little, so as not to hijack this thread too much, thanks.
 
I upgrade from 7 with the consumer preview and never went back. I hated 7. 10 is good and very stable.
It only takes a few minutes to disable all the crap you don't want. I've never had an issue with it updating on me.
I left my computer running for 6 weeks when I was out of the country so that I could remove access and didn't have any issues.
With MS, every second OS is decent.
 
thats where they fucked up in my opinion, the mobile and tablet features are just fucking retarded on a desktop, they shouldve kept the win 7 desktop style and added the ability to use either it or the new mobile garbage. No ones buying windows mobile devices anyway, lol

The new UI is for more than just phones. The point is to scale across device types and input methods. A typical Win32 keyboard and mouse driven application works the same on Windows 10 as it does 7. And 10 has the advantage of working much better on 2 in 1 devices with touch or pen. 7 had touch and pen support but it's much better in 10.
 
The new UI is for more than just phones. The point is to scale across device types and input methods. A typical Win32 keyboard and mouse driven application works the same on Windows 10 as it does 7. And 10 has the advantage of working much better on 2 in 1 devices with touch or pen. 7 had touch and pen support but it's much better in 10.


im referring to the menus and control panels and stuff, its all fucked up now and hard to find shit, they shouldve kept the old style for desktops and had an option to enable the touchscreen crap if you need it, which i never will for a windows device, lol! Android is far superior on mobile, windows doesnt have a chance to compete with them, all they did is piss off all their desktop users.
 
im referring to the menus and control panels and stuff, its all fucked up now and hard to find shit, they shouldve kept the old style for desktops and had an option to enable the touchscreen crap if you need it, which i never will for a windows device, lol! Android is far superior on mobile, windows doesnt have a chance to compete with them, all they did is piss off all their desktop users.

Changing anything in Windows is tough to do given it's decades on the market. Settings I think is a cleaner and more consistent system control UI than the Control Panel though having both can be confusing. But the most common stuff is in Settings now and there's a lot of new stuff there that was never in the CP.

Sure Android is a much better phone OS if for no other reason it has an ecosystem that Windows phones never developed. On larger 2 in 1s though, Windows is doing pretty well. Google is just now getting into the market with 2 in 1 Chromebooks and putting Android support on them, but Android really is very much about phones and not so much larger screen devices for now. In any case, the 2 in 1 market is far too important for Windows and doing well and it's not going away any time soon. In the consumer market it's gaming devices and 2 in 1 devices that are keeping Windows relevant these days.
 
Changing anything in Windows is tough to do given it's decades on the market. Settings I think is a cleaner and more consistent system control UI than the Control Panel though having both can be confusing. But the most common stuff is in Settings now and there's a lot of new stuff there that was never in the CP.

Sure Android is a much better phone OS if for no other reason it has an ecosystem that Windows phones never developed. On larger 2 in 1s though, Windows is doing pretty well. Google is just now getting into the market with 2 in 1 Chromebooks and putting Android support on them, but Android really is very much about phones and not so much larger screen devices for now. In any case, the 2 in 1 market is far too important for Windows and doing well and it's not going away any time soon. In the consumer market it's gaming devices and 2 in 1 devices that are keeping Windows relevant these days.

Maybe i just hate change and havent used it enough to learn the new layouts, but i freaking hate it. By 2 in 1 you mean like a touchscreen laptop? i have one of those and ive never used the touchscreen and i never will, keyboard mouse is a thousand times faster and better to use. touchscreen is only good on small screens imo. i dont even like tablets, too big and hard to type on, samsung galaxy note 4 size screen is about perfect for everything but watching lots of video.
 
im referring to the menus and control panels and stuff, its all fucked up now and hard to find shit, they shouldve kept the old style for desktops and had an option to enable the touchscreen crap if you need it, which i never will for a windows device, lol! Android is far superior on mobile, windows doesnt have a chance to compete with them, all they did is piss off all their desktop users.

I guess you can consider Android superior if you like you system fragmented and you settings all over the place and difficult to find. Finding something in Windows 10 is easy, especially compared to Android.
 
Maybe i just hate change and havent used it enough to learn the new layouts, but i freaking hate it. By 2 in 1 you mean like a touchscreen laptop? i have one of those and ive never used the touchscreen and i never will, keyboard mouse is a thousand times faster and better to use. touchscreen is only good on small screens imo. i dont even like tablets, too big and hard to type on, samsung galaxy note 4 size screen is about perfect for everything but watching lots of video.

By 2 in 1 I'm referring to a device that can convert into a tablet form factor. Most do it these days with a 360 degree hinge. The Surface Book line detaches the screen. I use pen and touch everyday on my Surface Book 2 though the vast majority of the time I use it as conventional clamshell laptop. It's an extremely versatile device. Not for everyone but something I really like.

If you're on Windows 7 with older hardware and it's been working well for you I get it. There's plenty not to like about Windows 10 and I understand why one would want to stick with it. My two main personal PCs are my sig rig and a Surface Book 2 15" 512 GB. I built that sig rig two years ago and started with Windows 10 with the plan to add VR and 4k. No way in hell I'm dealing with Windows 7 on a 4k screen or a 2 in 1 device. 7 simply doesn't work well on this kind of hardware.
 
By 2 in 1 I'm referring to a device that can convert into a tablet form factor. Most do it these days with a 360 degree hinge. The Surface Book line detaches the screen. I use pen and touch everyday on my Surface Book 2 though the vast majority of the time I use it as conventional clamshell laptop. It's an extremely versatile device. Not for everyone but something I really like.

If you're on Windows 7 with older hardware and it's been working well for you I get it. There's plenty not to like about Windows 10 and I understand why one would want to stick with it. My two main personal PCs are my sig rig and a Surface Book 2 15" 512 GB. I built that sig rig two years ago and started with Windows 10 with the plan to add VR and 4k. No way in hell I'm dealing with Windows 7 on a 4k screen or a 2 in 1 device. 7 simply doesn't work well on this kind of hardware.
I used to be a big gamer and computer nerd but life changes have brought me away from doing that very much any more, my pc is pretty old now but it was a beast when i built it, i7core920, ausus p6t mb, hd 6970 vid card, so it still doing everything i need other than playing the best newest games which i no longer have time for anyway, I have a lenovo laptop that folds in half like your talking about touchscreen, played with it a little when i first got it but it sucked to use compared to keyboard mouse so ill never use it that way again. Its primarily used as a video player hooked to my tv in my RV. I use my samsung galaxy note 4 for all my internet and computing needs, other than games obviously. I guess everyones needs and wants are different, but i find large touchscreens far too slow and cumbersome to do anything but watch movies on.
 
I used to be a big gamer and computer nerd but life changes have brought me away from doing that very much any more, my pc is pretty old now but it was a beast when i built it, i7core920, ausus p6t mb, hd 6970 vid card, so it still doing everything i need other than playing the best newest games which i no longer have time for anyway, I have a lenovo laptop that folds in half like your talking about touchscreen, played with it a little when i first got it but it sucked to use compared to keyboard mouse so ill never use it that way again. Its primarily used as a video player hooked to my tv in my RV. I use my samsung galaxy note 4 for all my internet and computing needs, other than games obviously. I guess everyones needs and wants are different, but i find large touchscreens far too slow and cumbersome to do anything but watch movies on.

I has an i7 920 x58 device for many years. Still have the CPU but the motherboard died and just haven't bothered with it.

I hadn't upgrade in a lot of years but wanted to get into VR so that drove me to build my sig rig. So in mid-2016, almost a year into Windows 10 and when dealing with the latest and greatest PC hardware, it didn't make a lot of sense to me to go with anything but Windows 10. It's just how I've always approached building a new PC, I've always gone with the latest Windows version at the time. And this rig has been a fucking blast. I upgraded from two 1080s to 1080 Tis and added a lot more SSD storage while going through 4 Windows 10 feature updates, not a single reinstall.

So again, I get that there's lots of folks that have had bad Windows 10 experiences or don't like it for a number of reasons I find legitimate. But I have no idea how Windows 7 would have worked on this rig better? Would Windows 7 make VR or gaming faster or scale better on a 4k monitor or work better with multiple monitors?
 
I has an i7 920 x58 device for many years. Still have the CPU but the motherboard died and just haven't bothered with it.

I hadn't upgrade in a lot of years but wanted to get into VR so that drove me to build my sig rig. So in mid-2016, almost a year into Windows 10 and when dealing with the latest and greatest PC hardware, it didn't make a lot of sense to me to go with anything but Windows 10. It's just how I've always approached building a new PC, I've always gone with the latest Windows version at the time. And this rig has been a fucking blast. I upgraded from two 1080s to 1080 Tis and added a lot more SSD storage while going through 4 Windows 10 feature updates, not a single reinstall.

So again, I get that there's lots of folks that have had bad Windows 10 experiences or don't like it for a number of reasons I find legitimate. But I have no idea how Windows 7 would have worked on this rig better? Would Windows 7 make VR or gaming faster or scale better on a 4k monitor or work better with multiple monitors?

yea i totally get ya there, i doubt new games would even run on windows 7, none of my xp games work on win 7, so id guess you need the latest version of windows if youre gaming. Last game i bought was probably Battlefield 3 in 2011, lol! last game ive played is probably gta 5 on ps4, but i havent played it like 2 or 3 years cause they fucked up the networking or people started cheating cause id shoot them 5 times with the sniper that shouldve taken one or two max and they dont die but i die on their first shot so i got mad and quit playing. no problems with my internet either, i moved locations and used multiple different isps all with same results, only had problems with that one game so it was on their end for sure.
 
Windows 10 is a heaping pile of shit. The UI sucks. The telemetry/spying sucks. The "reset your preferences" sucks. I hate it. Literally hate it. It was Windows 10 that got me to move to linux as my daily desktop. When I want to game, I fire up the VM and endure the shitty win10 GUI long enough to play. And MS doesn't get to suck very much information from my Steam library.
 
Windows 10 is a heaping pile of shit. The UI sucks. The telemetry/spying sucks. The "reset your preferences" sucks. I hate it. Literally hate it. It was Windows 10 that got me to move to linux as my daily desktop. When I want to game, I fire up the VM and endure the shitty win10 GUI long enough to play. And MS doesn't get to suck very much information from my Steam library.
yea i am contemplating doing the same thing on my laptop, lol, never used linux before but its gotta be an improvement.
 
yea i am contemplating doing the same thing on my laptop, lol, never used linux before but its gotta be an improvement.

I started off using Linux just out of curiosity more than anything, a few years ago, on an old cheap Core 2 Dell Optiplex with bulging capacitors. I've always been keen to learn and over time I found that not only was I using the little Dell more and more over my overclocked Windows PC because it was less power hungry and quieter, I was really enjoying Linux - It's so neat, clean and tidy. It looks the way I want it to look, not the way a third party wants it to look and it felt like my own creation. As time went on my terminal skills improved, however I was surprised at just how little the terminal was necessary, perhaps my expectations regarding the necessity of the terminal under Linux were just outdated?

As time went on I replaced the bulging capacitors in that little Optiplex, I swapped the E6600 for the fabled Q6600, I added more ram and an Nvidia graphics card as well as a cheap SSD. By this stage I was hardly using my Windows PC at all and had installed Steam under Linux and was even experimenting with Steam and a few games, honestly I was impressed!

Since then I've replaced the little Dell with something better, I've done quite a bit of distro hopping only to end up close to where I started back in *buntu land, I feel as comfortable with Linux as I felt with Windows - In fact Windows is the OS that's beginning to feel alien to me now. I doubt I'll ever fully go back to Windows. I've added a second processor to my system and doubled the ram capacity and I've installed Windows 7 under Virtualbox and have started migrating my physical Windows PC to the VM, the Windows PC is just taking up precious desk space that I could use for other, more important things. Not too sure just what I'll do with the Windows PC.

It's a journey that's as positive as your attitude going into it. If you decide to try Linux be prepared to become frustrated, but enjoy learning from your frustration. Starting out everything is uphill battles, but if you enjoy challenges, if you enjoy learning, you'll do fine.
 
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