Gsync 4k 144hz HDR monitor prices 'released'

Has anyone hear of any plans for a ~40 inch 4k or 5k OLED tv or monitor with VRR such as freesync or Gsync? It looks like the current OLED displays are a bit too big for my desk setup.
 
x27 is being advertised on Microcenter "Acer Store", no pre-order yet there though says "coming soon". No clickable link yet, but it should be up relatively soon. I do hope they allow pre-order on these displays there because I know theres atleast 1-2 other people in my area who are always competing with me for day 1 purchases to the point that a our local frys the Swifts were sold before they were even on the shelves and I missed the x34 on release date at Microcenter, had to buy from TigerDirect.

I'll be buying one of these to hold me over til something better comes out.
 
can the hood remove on the Acer. Looks so ugly with it install.
 
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Lmah2x said:
x27 is being advertised on Microcenter "Acer Store", no pre-order yet there though says "coming soon". No clickable link yet, but it should be up relatively soon. I do hope they allow pre-order on these displays there because I know theres atleast 1-2 other people in my area who are always competing with me for day 1 purchases to the point that a our local frys the Swifts were sold before they were even on the shelves and I missed the x34 on release date at Microcenter, had to buy from TigerDirect.

I'll be buying one of these to hold me over til something better comes out.
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You can preorder it on newegg right now.
 
Lmah2x said:
Microcenter has a better return policy though. Unless Newegg changed.
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Newegg's monitor policy is 30 days and 8 dead pixels to return.

I love them for lots of things, but would never buy a monitor from them.
 
Damn, was about to click preorder before I saw it was the Acer version.
 
Not sqying it isnt overpriced but you are paying for more than 4k and 144hz g-sync.

elvn said:
  • g-sync/VRR
  • tight to 120hz+
  • modern gaming overdrive
  • low input lag by design
  • high density FALD
  • 1000nit peak w/ VA black depth augmented by FALD true HDR
  • P3 color for HDR standards (QD filtered for lcd)

But, considering hdmi 2.1's specs for the next few years including VRR and low latency - and the fact that LG oleds can already do 120hz native internally, I agree with your acer/asus price tag comment in that respect, especially for the 65" BFGD ones.
Caveats being the size of LG tv's (though TCL is going to start printing 31" oleds eventually) .. the wait for hdmi 2.1.. the likely gpu upgrade to support hdmi 2.1 and VRR (assuming nvidia will require gpu upgrade for hdmi 2.1 and VRR if/when they support it).
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People are talking about taking a pass because it's too little too late and at an extreme price point, especially considering what's upcoming in 2019 - 2020 in 120hz native over hdmi HDR OLED 4k tvs.. as well as smaller, cheaper oled panels due to be manufactured by TCL in 2019+ .... . and perhaps even VRR on tvs over hdmi 2.1 standard eventually if xbox's support of freesync can promote the feature enough.


The "only" thing these have going for them for gaming over 2019 120hz over hdmi 2.1 OLEDs is VRR, and even that could be an included feature at some point
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HDMI 2.1 https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1511934073
The first phase of HDMI 2.1 certification starts in the second quarter, with full certification expected to begin in the third or fourth quarter of the year. Products with the official stamp of approval can be launched following successful certification.

Besides support for 8K and 10K resolution as well as 4K resolution at 120fps, HDMI 2.1 supports Dynamic HDR to enable “multiple static and dynamic HDR solutions”. It features eARC that “supports the most advanced high bitrate home theater audio formats, object-based audio, uncompressed 5.1 and 7.1, and 32-channel uncompressed audio” with audio bandwidth up to 37 Mb/s

  • Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) reduces or eliminates lag, stutter and frame tearing for more fluid and better detailed gameplay.
  • Quick Media Switching (QMS) for movies and video eliminates the delay that can result in blank screens before content is displayed.
  • Quick Frame Transport (QFT) reduces latency for smoother no-lag gaming, and real-time interactive virtual reality.
  • Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) allows the ideal latency setting to automatically be set allowing for smooth, lag-free and uninterrupted viewing and interactivity.
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Price is still insane to me, but I imagine they'll move a decent amount of product at that price. At $3K I would have considered it basically DOA.
 
Huh I wonder if the 35" VA will include ULMB. If they do, they might actually be really fantastic since strobing would hide the VA panel transition times the same way it did on the Eizo FG2421.
 
If the Acer is $2000, Asus is going to be even more. There better be a warm hole on the back of the monitor for that price.
 
Armenius said:
You can pick up a 55" LG C7 OLED right now for less.
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Until hdmi 2.1 those are 60hz input, no VRR.. no 120hz, no hdmi 2.1 low latency gaming tech. You can't compare the 60hz with no VRR to a gsync 120hz+ gaming display. When those hdmi 2.1 120hz VRR oleds come out in 2019 they probably will cost a bit more than the current crop of oleds too.
 
elvn said:
Not sqying it isnt overpriced but you are paying for more than 4k and 144hz g-sync.
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I still think these are terrible propositions. These will be elitist for 6 months. Paying top dollar at $1,999, I have a feeling those who buy these will have a big case of buyer’s remorse once CES 2019 arrives. 2019 OLEDs and other models will almost certainly be a big deal with HDMI 2.1.

I’m not saying the tech these are packing is in any way bad, it’s just a case of too little too late IMO. Stuff like FALD should have been adopted and implemented by the industry years ago, yet they sat on their hands content with “good enough.”

Once again it’ll really come down to the G-Sync argument. Personally, $1,999 is a hard pill to swallow for just that feature whose many other features are shared by other monitors and TVs.
 
I guess I don't have enough money burning a hole in my pocket to justify upgrading to this over my 1440p 144hz gsync.
If it had simultaneous ULMB gsync I would buy it now.

I guess I'll wait a few months to see if it gets cheaper. Otherwise I'll just wait for BFGs or OLED vrr.
 
gan7114 said:
I still think these are terrible propositions. These will be elitist for 6 months. Paying top dollar at $1,999, I have a feeling those who buy these will have a big case of buyer’s remorse once CES 2019 arrives. 2019 OLEDs and other models will almost certainly be a big deal with HDMI 2.1.

I’m not saying the tech these are packing is in any way bad, it’s just a case of too little too late IMO. Stuff like FALD should have been adopted and implemented by the industry years ago, yet they sat on their hands content with “good enough.”

Once again it’ll really come down to the G-Sync argument. Personally, $1,999 is a hard pill to swallow for just that feature whose many other features are shared by other monitors and TVs.
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If you read my replies you'll see I agree with you and waiting on hdmi 2.1 4k 120 Hz VRR HDR OLED , but not comments making any comparison to 60hz , non VRR, no hdmi 2.1 low latency OLEDs.
 
To be fair, you can use current OLEDs at 120hz in 1080P, which also makes VRR fairly irrelevant since it's easy to peg 120fps in anything at 1080P. No idea how good it looks or whether it's worth doing, though.
 
Sancus said:
To be fair, you can use current OLEDs at 120hz in 1080P, which also makes VRR fairly irrelevant since it's easy to peg 120fps in anything at 1080P. No idea how good it looks or whether it's worth doing, though.
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I hate when people bring this up. I have a C7 OLED and 120hz 1080p looks like hot garbage on it since GPU's blow at properly scaling 1080Pee.

4k60hz looks so much better than 1080p120 on these OLEDs that the 120hz mode is virtually worthless.

I have my preorder in for the X27 Predator....I would prefer X32 as that is my "grail size." But oh well, I will love the X27 tenderly until something better comes along.

gan7114 said:
I still think these are terrible propositions. These will be elitist for 6 months. Paying top dollar at $1,999, I have a feeling those who buy these will have a big case of buyer’s remorse once CES 2019 arrives. 2019 OLEDs and other models will almost certainly be a big deal with HDMI 2.1.

I’m not saying the tech these are packing is in any way bad, it’s just a case of too little too late IMO. Stuff like FALD should have been adopted and implemented by the industry years ago, yet they sat on their hands content with “good enough.”

Once again it’ll really come down to the G-Sync argument. Personally, $1,999 is a hard pill to swallow for just that feature whose many other features are shared by other monitors and TVs.
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Six months.......you could be dead tomorrow....hit by a bus....a piano falls on your head....aggressive cancer like teabiscuit..... this is here, coming now....enjoy it for what it is, while it is, when you can. IMHO everything is a placeholder until 4k120+ OLED VRR.
 
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4k monitors less than 32" are fucking stupid. It is known.

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Dan_D said:
I'm basically of the same opinion. In any case, I wouldn't have a monitor less than 40" on my main rig at this point.
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I'm basically of the same opinion. In any case, I wouldn't have a monitor less than 40" OLED 4k120 VRR on my main rig at this point....unless they were not available and the only high refresh 4k gaming display option for the next six months was this stupid 27" FALD
 
The funny thing is, there is 27" 4k monitors all day in the $400-500 from all the major brands so these ass holes at Asus/Acer think the 144hz is worth 4 times the price? I get it's a first to market but literally this price point is down right apawling considering you're really only changing the refresh rate. I bet you these are down to a $1000 or less in a year when others jump on board like Dell or BenQ or whatever then at that point I'm going to give the ass holes at Acer and Asus a middle finger.
 
Nirad9er said:
considering you're really only changing the refresh rate.
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No. It has a FALD backlight which has taken years of development to get correct, displaying HDR correctly isn't possible on current panels and backlights. 4K 144hz is the simplest, least important part of this monitor.
 
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No. It has a FALD backlight which has taken years of development to get correct, displaying HDR correctly isn't possible on current panels and backlights. 4K 144hz is the simplest, least important part of this monitor.
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Right, but I think we can all agree most people care about the 144hz + 4k + HDR. Most people aren't going to know or care about anything else. Do you think the box is going to say FALD on it? It'll say ultimate gaming at 4k with 144hz and HDR on the box. Even if it has FALD, the biggest selling point is the 144hz which is what people rave over. Point blank, the price is pure greed and $2000 is NOT an acceptable price for a measily 27" monitor. You can buy a high end 4k tv that's 3 times the size for the same price. Just in pure hardware the tv should cost more to make. F the corporate greed.
 
l88bastard said:
Six months.......you could be dead tomorrow....hit by a bus....a piano falls on your head....aggressive cancer like teabiscuit..... this is here, coming now....enjoy it for what it is, while it is, when you can. IMHO everything is a placeholder until 4k120+ OLED VRR.
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l88bastard said:
I hate when people bring this up. I have a C7 OLED and 120hz 1080p looks like hot garbage on it since GPU's blow at properly scaling 1080Pee.

4k60hz looks so much better than 1080p120 on these OLEDs that the 120hz mode is virtually worthless.

I have my preorder in for the X27 Predator....I would prefer X32 as that is my "grail size." But oh well, I will love the X27 tenderly until something better comes along.



Six months.......you could be dead tomorrow....hit by a bus....a piano falls on your head....aggressive cancer like teabiscuit..... this is here, coming now....enjoy it for what it is, while it is, when you can. IMHO everything is a placeholder until 4k120+ OLED VRR.
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Uh, if you're going through your bucket list, monitors are probably one of the last things you'd be worrying about.
 
Well we know $2k is top price now so in the future I think that price will come down. Maybe not this year but next year. If the manufacturers keep making this type of product then higher production should beget lower pricing. Plus I think the manufacturers like raping consumers as much as popular on new stuff. The $2k price is just one example.
 
Maddness said:
Thank God that crypto miners can't make money from monitors. Otherwise three would be even more absurdly priced.
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Are you serious? I think crypto mining increased prices 25%-50% across the board for everything PC related.

Crypto-mining is to PC's what Tourist Traps are to Real Estate.
 
I paid $1550 for a 65" 4k HDR LG oled. $2k for this monitor is insane.
 
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