Intel is Preparing For Fight With NVIDIA Over AI

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The Market Watch is reporting that Intel is digging in for a fight with the current leader in AI NVIDIA. The article states that while it will be an uphill battle for the entrenched NVIDIA, Intel cannot hope to compete without an equivalent GPU or processor for AI systems. And with the recent hiring of Raja Koduri, as well as Jim Keller, it seems Intel is planning to do just that.

Not much I can add, except I can't wait to see what Intel with Raja and Killer can do.

It is clear from the language and direction that Intel is taking that it sees one of its primary goals as slowing down the behemoth that is Nvidia’s grip on the AI space. But that is going to take more than the current crop of products Intel sells. How its upcoming generation of processors competes will be a telling sign as to the future Intel has in AI.
 
If you put a 'G' sound in front of each of the letters in 'AI', it comes out sounding, "Gay Guy".

That's all I have to add. But think about it ... Coincidence?


P.S. Obviously, I am not working on artificial intelligence. In fact, I'll probably be one of Skynet's early targets.
 
seanreisk said:
If you put a 'G' sound in front of each of the letters in 'AI', it comes out sounding, "Gay Guy".

That's all I have to add. But think about it ... Coincidence?


P.S. Obviously, I am not working on artificial intelligence. In fact, I'll probably be one of Skynet's early targets.
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I can tell they are gay just by smelling the box nvidia gpu’s come in.

I smell boxes
 
Intel's building quite a team for a while now, haven't they? Soon they'll launch their first attacks in all directions. Pretty much silicon nazis
 
SeymourGore said:
Good news. Now when the AI competition heats up, things go self aware, and humanity's slaughter/enslavement begins - at least we know some of our AI invaders will be vulnerable to meltdown/spectre attacks.
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The cylons were the first to utilize really effective side channel attacks, assuming sending a tall blond to compromise earth is a side channel attack still. I think it is.
 
EVIL-SCOTSMAN said:
I can tell they are gay just by smelling the box nvidia gpu’s come in.

I smell boxes
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Who doesn't?

I also smell my dog's dog treats each time I open a new package. Not that that has anything to do with AI.

PhaseNoise said:
The cylons were the first to utilize really effective side channel attacks, assuming sending a tall blond to compromise earth is a side channel attack still. I think it is.
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I'd fall for it. Hell, I could see tinder sending me a message saying, "This chat is probably a Cylon Cyborg battleoid sent to murder you," and it would really depend on the Cylon's facebook profile as to whether I suggested a hookup.
 
I can only hope that they literally have their AI virtually fight each other.
 
What happened to IBM? Shouldn't IBM and companies like SAP be leading the pack on AI? I'm seriously disappointed in them.
 
Fuck Intel on this, you shouldn't be trying to slow down your competition you should be trying to outpace them.
 
Grimlaking said:
What happened to IBM? Shouldn't IBM and companies like SAP be leading the pack on AI? I'm seriously disappointed in them.
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IBM "sold" most of their equipment/patents (primarly GF) to other fabs and their "scientists" have also jumped over to give their aid to others such as Samsung-GF/AMD etc help transition to the lower nm processes such as 16-14-12(10)-7-5nm etc (at least this is last I have heard) so they still are very much academically involved with the tech behind much of the high-tech world, but not under their own banner, as far as I know IBM "skunk works" is still very much alive (behind closed doors)

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seems they (IBM) decided why keep all our cookies to ourselves (while others such as Intel or Ngreedia go out of their way to keep everything close to their chest which has its own benefits/detriments) might as well try to help where we can and have been doing exactly that for a number of years now...

again this is from what I recall reading ~4-7 years back even before Ryzen launched (likely very very early concept at best) just after GF took things over from AMD (they were already dealing with IBM often enough prior to sale of their fabs to GF in 2009/2010)

was around the same time IBM and the "media" world gave these types of revelations, kind of funny because it was roughly around this time that Intel process advantage "stalled" and others seem to catch up quite quickly in fact (on a relative scale compared to their significant "advantage" at die shrinks for quite a few years)

AMD from 32nm to current Ryzen 14nm (add a year +/- for the 12nm ones) in the span of ~7 years vs Intel ~8 years all told for similar scaling down (if not longer if they cannot "master" shrink to 10nm in 2019 as they are optimistic in achieving)

https://www.globalfoundries.com/new...-acquisition-of-ibm-microelectronics-business

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could be where GF was able to jump to 14nm in first place and add some of the refinement to give 12nm (14nm+) and go beyond for 7nm which is likely to be neck and neck release from TSMC (which is also likely to be just ahead or just behind Intels 10nm which am certain they absolutely did not want to be neck and neck with anyone)

^.^
 
The companies aside, the fact that Intel is going to be getting into the AI / Deep learning business is going to accelerate the sector by 10 years. The number of distribution contacts in the business world that Intel has, will create an entire new market of adoption that would have hitherto not been available to Nvidia, or necessarily willing to take the step up from a cpu server based ecosystem. If you're a technology nut, this movie has just dramatically increased the chances of seeing truly mind blowing ai technology in your lifetime.
 
seanreisk said:
If you put a 'G' sound in front of each of the letters in 'AI', it comes out sounding, "Gay Guy".

That's all I have to add. But think about it ... Coincidence?
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Probably a conversation better had with a therapist.
 
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Qualcomm basically controls the mobile market, Nvidia the discrete gpu/AI side of things, and AMD is back in town slowly chipping away again at their cpu lead, Fabs are pretty close to being on par after Intels 10nm being over 2 years late. they are starting to feel pressure in almost every market they use to dominate. The good news is they have the money and now talent to really push things and it is exciting to see a sleeping giant hopefully awaken again. I Think they finally realized x86 cant do everything

As others have said competition is good
 
I wonder if there will be a 'trickle down' effect and that effectively a 3rd major GPU manufacturer might inter the market.
 
I have said it before...hardware matters, but giving developers support matters more. If all that mattered was speed everything would be done on specialized FPGA circuits. That's how NVIDIA beats out AMD in terms of CUDA. It drives me nuts when people jump on NVIDIA for that sort of support, but I seriously doubt the haters have tried to write production ready code using a gpu (and using an easy api wrapper that does the work for you doesn't count).
 
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