Reusable TIM?

Was just about to make a thread on this. Its neat, I'd like to try it. Seems weird though. But it looks like it works!
 
I want to try it out on my Alienware 17. Too bad it wasn't around when I had my Razer Blade Pro, might have made it less of a pain in the ass.
 
That tiny pad won't cover the Threadripper chip. If they sold a Threadripper version I'd try it.
 
criccio said:
Like noted in the video, I guess I don't see any reason why you can't use two or maybe cut it to fit?
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Well for me, I wouldn't want to use 2 pieces, I would want one single contiguous piece that can spread any possible hot spots across the pad as noted in the video. Of course till someone actually tests what happens if you use a single contiguous pad vs one that was cut in half I guess we won't know for sure if there is any real noticeable degradation in cooling.
 
I'd totally use this thing. Using the paste is the worst part about mounting coolers for me. Especially, if you accidentally get a bad mount or something and have to redo it. This pad would literally get rid of that problem for the cost of like 1C...and I can just use it again when I upgrade?? Sign me up (assuming the video is remotely accurate lol).
 
Seems like it would be just as finicky as paste to get layed over just right without it wrinkling up or something and yielding a bad mount.

Granted, you can just pick it up and try again, but still... don't necessarily see it being any easier to apply, just less messy.
 
This seems to be back in stock on Amazon. It looks like you can get it in 30x30 or 40x40 (mm) sizes. I'm tempted to buy the smaller one and try it out with my new 2700x. Apparently the Ryzen ihs is 37.2x37.2. I wonder if the 7mm difference would hurt.
 
yup they are and IC is selling them $15 and $20US for each size and shipping from CT, USA.
id get the 40mm and trim it, might even be fine left as is.
 
pendragon1 said:
yup they are and IC is selling them $15 and $20US for each size and shipping from CT, USA.
id get the 40mm and trim it, might even be fine left as is.
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Watching the Linus video again, it looks like the pad they use is a decent bit smaller than the cpu they're using.
 
bpizzle1 said:
Watching the Linus video again, it looks like the pad they use is a decent bit smaller than the cpu they're using.
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yeah it was and seemed to work ok but that was intel and I was commenting on the ryzen you mentioned. either way I would go with the larger, wouldn't hurt for $5.
 
Maybe Intel ought to use this in between their CPU and Heatspreader instead of the Radio Shack TIM they bought at a huge discount at the Going Out of Business sale??

Also, in before the lock some kid buys 4 and scotch-tapes them together for their Threadripper! (y)

On a serious note, that's a novel product. Would definitely be nice to have them sell it in a larger sheet for the ability to apply it in custom applications.

Just don't put the entire square on your delidded Intel CPU, otherwise *poof* lol (I've watched the vid now and found it was conductive heh)
 
Yes graphite is conductive. I'm curious about the pana stuff, it comes in bigger sizes.
 
https://www.innovationcooling.com/initial-desktop-tests-ic-graphite-vs-gelid-gc-extreme/


Here's some testing I ran across from someone that IC sourced some pads to. It seems to be pretty thorough, but I can't comment on the tester's credibility.

I think I'm going to shoot IC an email and ask them what size pad they would recommend for a Ryzen chip. I'll probably buy one based on what they say. I'm waiting for my AM4 adapter to ship for my AIO, so I have some time before the system is going together, anyway.
 
my $.02 less likely to affect AMD than Intel at this point (save for a few of Intel X series chips) because AMD is using mostly solder based instead of the LMAO radio shack TIM.

only testing will tell, maybe if it is "good enough" AIB and such will use this as a defacto standard instead of mucking around sloping more often than not WAY TOO MUCH thermal paste on everything or even for Vreg and such instead of using thermal tape (if can be used of course)
 
If it performs within the usual 1-2 degrees variance of 90% of pastes then why not. Could be the standard product for most of us going forward if so.

No more paste buying!!!!!
 
daglesj said:
If it performs within the usual 1-2 degrees variance of 90% of pastes then why not. Could be the standard product for most of us going forward if so.

No more paste buying!!!!!
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Ehhh....Unless it becomes better, probably not. Outside of some situations, paste would be far cheaper, for the price of one sheet you can get a tube of TIM that will last they rest of your life, hell, it's more than many people spend on their HS for just a single CPU sheet.

For long term, and embedded systems etc etc it would be the choice, as it would never dry out, and I was thinking maybe good choice for delidding, as thats not something you want to touch again. If the extra price is worth the ease of use however, I guess it could be a winner there as well.
 
BlueFireIce said:
Ehhh....Unless it becomes better, probably not. Outside of some situations, paste would be far cheaper, for the price of one sheet you can get a tube of TIM that will last they rest of your life, hell, it's more than many people spend on their HS for just a single CPU sheet.

For long term, and embedded systems etc etc it would be the choice, as it would never dry out, and I was thinking maybe good choice for delidding, as thats not something you want to touch again. If the extra price is worth the ease of use however, I guess it could be a winner there as well.
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No more paste buying!!!!!
 
BlueFireIce said:
Ehhh....Unless it becomes better, probably not. Outside of some situations, paste would be far cheaper, for the price of one sheet you can get a tube of TIM that will last they rest of your life, hell, it's more than many people spend on their HS for just a single CPU sheet.

For long term, and embedded systems etc etc it would be the choice, as it would never dry out, and I was thinking maybe good choice for delidding, as thats not something you want to touch again. If the extra price is worth the ease of use however, I guess it could be a winner there as well.
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Huh? The IC product sells for $15-20 depending on the size you pick. That's not really any more than the best pastes.
 
Linus had a whole box full of them, maybe he would consider sharing them?

Also, for a threadripper, I see no issues using two pads, just make sure that each core is on its own sheet. So the divide line would be down the middle of the heat spreader.

Honestly, if they can improve it where it narrows that gap of temp difference it will replace pastes. Hell, even if it is 2-3C worse then paste, I would use it just to not have to deal with paste clean up. If an OC is going to fail over a few degree C, then it isnt stable long term anyway. The only other concern is if it degrades over time while being mounted, like the constant pressure and heat cycles actually does break it down or not. If it does indeed hold up, it really is a no brainer.
 
I wonder how long these things would last the way we change CPUs and motherboards?
 
I am sure linus is one of the village people.











Oh yes he is.
 
bpizzle1 said:
Huh? The IC product sells for $15-20 depending on the size you pick. That's not really any more than the best pastes.
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Notice you said "best" paste. IC Diamond they did the test with is not the best (and very expensive for performance), and most people are reporting the pad to be 1-2C worse, you can get 20-22g tubes of better performing TIM for $20, which would last most people a life time across many machines, while this can only be used on a single CPU/GPU at a time. So the one 20g tube will take care of your laptop, CPU in desktop, CPU in server, CPU in pfsense box, CPU in media box and whatever GPUs you have for the rest of your life. With this pad however with just those devices you are close to $100 for a pad that performs at best, mid pack of normal TIMs.

Yes, it has some uses and advantages, but without better performance or much cheaper price, it more or less only has long life going for it. And most TIMs still take YEARS to dry out, many people who are even going to know about this product will be the types who probably upgrade more often than that, or are seeking that last 1C of temp drop that this will not give. Long term builds, embedded systems, under IHS (if performance is good there) are places it will do best.
 
Looks good enough for my tastes, I'm going in on this, adios paste. This will encourage me to upgrade my CPU far more often than I do. I am [L]imp, and thus spend a lot of time at work and with my family, so the additional annoyance of having to clean up paste, take time to reapply carefully and properly researching how the dies are laid underneath the IHS etc, prevents me from tossing in new CPUs each year.

As opposed to with this, 4 screws or so, remove heatsink, drop in new CPU, place graphite pad, reassemble and I'm going. I can also leave it together for 10 years if I want to, and never think for a moment about reapplying anything. No brainer IMO. This is a benefit to CPU vendors and a deathblow to the paste industry as I expect most people to see it my way. There's always dissent but I suspect the market will speak much louder as this becomes more well known.
 
I can see this as a really good OEM/aib solution if they find a way to "coat" their heatsink and just slap it on. Probably save costs in the long run when you count removing disposables and reapplication labour.
 
KazeoHin said:
I can see this as a really good OEM/aib solution if they find a way to "coat" their heatsink and just slap it on. Probably save costs in the long run when you count removing disposables and reapplication labour.
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Applying paste is by far my least favorite thing about building or upgrading PCs. Assuming it works as advertised, this thing will be worth every penny for me. I'll gladly give up a degree or two if I can just slap this thing on the IHS of any CPU I buy in the future.

I'm also really bad about losing paste tubes, so I often end up buying a small tube every build. This pad might actually save me money lol.
 
housecat said:
Looks good enough for my tastes, I'm going in on this, adios paste. This will encourage me to upgrade my CPU far more often than I do. I am [L]imp, and thus spend a lot of time at work and with my family, so the additional annoyance of having to clean up paste, take time to reapply carefully and properly researching how the dies are laid underneath the IHS etc, prevents me from tossing in new CPUs each year.

As opposed to with this, 4 screws or so, remove heatsink, drop in new CPU, place graphite pad, reassemble and I'm going. I can also leave it together for 10 years if I want to, and never think for a moment about reapplying anything. No brainer IMO. This is a benefit to CPU vendors and a deathblow to the paste industry as I expect most people to see it my way. There's always dissent but I suspect the market will speak much louder as this becomes more well known.
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I see your ordered one. let us know what you think.
 
pendragon1 said:
I see your ordered one. let us know what you think.
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Ya, in the morning. I'm tired, moving soon so lot going on lately.
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We await with bated breath! :)

How sad is it that 99% of us will trust a dude on a forum who has been a member for 13 years but has only accumulated 700 posts [no offense, housecat lol], over a well known YouTuber with a successful business in addition... Saad sad sad if you ask me :p
 
housecat said:
Looks good enough for my tastes, I'm going in on this, adios paste. This will encourage me to upgrade my CPU far more often than I do. I am [L]imp, and thus spend a lot of time at work and with my family, so the additional annoyance of having to clean up paste, take time to reapply carefully and properly researching how the dies are laid underneath the IHS etc, prevents me from tossing in new CPUs each year.

As opposed to with this, 4 screws or so, remove heatsink, drop in new CPU, place graphite pad, reassemble and I'm going. I can also leave it together for 10 years if I want to, and never think for a moment about reapplying anything. No brainer IMO. This is a benefit to CPU vendors and a deathblow to the paste industry as I expect most people to see it my way. There's always dissent but I suspect the market will speak much louder as this becomes more well known.
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I doubt it will be a death blow at all unless they get it going a bit better from what I understand it was 1-2 degree worse than ic diamond but we have a wide choice of pastes that out perform even that... So it is really slightly worse than entry level. I dunno it might be good for grandmas machine but I have like 45g of as5 still I even have some arctic silver 1.

I would like to see longer term testing after the traditional paste has settling time and liquid metal and thermal grizzly pastes compared to this.

Also I would like a direct die cpu used bust out an old p3 or tbred to run temps on.
 
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