Chris Hook leaves AMD, starting new role by the end of April

juanrga said:
AMD can do both. Main problem is bad management and internal wars are wasting resources. Just count all the projects have been canceled in last five years. Lots of millions of dollars have gone.
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First post I would ever agree with you on. They need to completely segment AMD/ATI into 2 different entities first. I don't like installing "Radeon" chipset drivers on my Ryzen then using DDU for it to wipe out my chipset drivers along with the GPU drivers.
 
Rvenger said:
First post I would ever agree with you on. They need to completely segment AMD/ATI into 2 different entities first. I don't like installing "Radeon" chipset drivers on my Ryzen then using DDU for it to wipe out my chipset drivers along with the GPU drivers.
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AMD did. That's what the RTG is.

Raja was supposed to lead RTG to greatness, but Raja fell flat on his face.
 
_mockingbird said:
AMD did. That's what the RTG is.

Raja was supposed to lead RTG to greatness, but Raja fell flat on his face.
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They need spun off... with buy rights into ATI tech for the APU. If Intel/AMD can do it together, AMD/AMD can with ATi as a separate entity.
 
DuronBurgerMan said:
It's a sort of trickle down mentality. Since Nvidia rules the roost at the ultra high end, they have a branding advantage in the mid-range and entry-level, where AMD still competes effectively on performance and price. Halo products often do that. However, Raven Ridge is indeed without peer - except from Intel's own Hades Canyon with Vega (or is it a Vega/Polaris hybrid?) unit. But how big is that market really? Most folks who omit buying a discrete GPU don't really care about games or GPU performance, so Intel's integrated units suffice. For ultra-budget gamers and small form factor folks, though... definitely, Raven Ridge is excellent.
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It's Vega, hbm2 and all. The difference between vega and Polaris can be debated, though.

I get the marketing advantage, that's obviously what's driving the rtg/vega is crap segment, as evidenced by this very thread. Just pointing out that it's a really stupid/shallow argument as its based only and solely on the very high end.

As to raven ridge, laptops outsell pcs so it's a huge market and oems are finally jumping in with good offerings at competitive prices (for the most part). We'll see how much traction they get, but Dell at least has a full line-up from 13"-17".
 
Rvenger said:
They need spun off... with buy rights into ATI tech for the APU. If Intel/AMD can do it together, AMD/AMD can with ATi as a separate entity.
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WTF u talking about? A big key to AMD's success is the MERGE of the CPU / GPU to the APU. You can't just create an APU group. Maybe you don't understand how Engineering works. You need CPU / GPU to APU integration. You eliminate redundancies to be cost effective, you don't create them. OK, let's create a APU group. There go half my Engineers from the GPU group and half my Engineers from my CPU group. Doing mostly the same damn thing. Buy rights? Really? You've just turned in-house technology into a loss due to purchasing costs from your former self entity. Foolish. That's why the Global Trend is to merge and buy out. SKYNET will be here soon, don't worry.
 
Rvenger said:
They need spun off... with buy rights into ATI tech for the APU. If Intel/AMD can do it together, AMD/AMD can with ATi as a separate entity.
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Why the F would they spin it off and buy rights? How does that save them any time and effort. Ryzen APUs are just fine. Honestly I have no idea what you are saying and how it benefits them. So separate a company and then buy rights back for something you already have working. HUH? That is a common man moment! Common Man!
 
Rvenger said:
First post I would ever agree with you on. They need to completely segment AMD/ATI into 2 different entities first. I don't like installing "Radeon" chipset drivers on my Ryzen then using DDU for it to wipe out my chipset drivers along with the GPU drivers.
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Very interesting because I disagree with you. My remark was about how AMD management is burning resources and your idea of maintaining two different companies would be a step forward adding more inefficiencies and duplication of expenses.
 
juanrga said:
Very interesting because I disagree with you. My remark was about how AMD management is burning resources and your idea of maintaining two different companies would be a step forward adding more inefficiencies and duplication of expenses.
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It comes down to fighting 2 leading companies if it was as simple as you say then there would be WAY more competition in both GPU and CPU. The scale of complexity on both these fronts are not easy when you having 2 companies flooding MDF funds when purchasing products(In that way Nvidia copied Intel).

While it is easy to point out the mistakes I have yet to find anyone with clear cut solutions for these problems from anyone.
 
_mockingbird said:
AMD didn't make a lot of money; retailers did.

Wholesale prices of video cards (that retailers pay) were make long in advance of the mining sham.
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AMD makes money if they ship products that get purchased. AMD making lots of money off of Crypto doesn't require them to be making the profit from the price gouging.
 
If AMD graphics are so bad then why can't i buy one at or below MSRP ?
 
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