US NTSB More Upset with Tesla...Again

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Yesterday we told you that the US NTSB was upset about Tesla sharing too much information with the public too quickly, but we really did not get a reason why exactly. Today, Fortune is suggestion (Archive link with no auto-start video) that the US NTSB is upset with Tesla because it does not make sharing crash data easy enough. Someone over there has to make up their mind. Quite frankly, I do not like the idea of having my driving logs turned over to anyone that happens to want those.


The problem for U.S. accident investigators is that the information wasn’t easily accessible. The data stored on the Tesla is in a proprietary format that can only be accessed by the company. Similarly, the information the vehicles beam to Tesla computers on a regular basis can’t be obtained without the company’s cooperation.
“It makes a challenging investigation more so,” said Peter Goelz, a former managing director at the National Transportation Safety Board who is now senior vice president at O’Neill & Associates, a Washington lobbying and public relations firm.
 
so a government agency expecting everyone to follow its lead...

does anyone want to see my *shocked* face?


it was interesting yesterday as i looked more into this whole case and came across the form you have to sign to be a part of such an investigation.
 
kinda obvious that Tesla released the data (in full or partial, it's irrelevant in this context) publicly without releasing it to the NSTB first.

of course the investigating agency would be pissed.

this is some unnecessary publicity stunt by Tesla that backfired

who the hell in Tesla thought that this was a good idea? (kinda fit the stereotype of arrogant maverick Silicon Valley hotshots though)
 
theBrownLlama said:
kinda obvious that Tesla released the data (in full or partial, it's irrelevant in this context) publicly without releasing it to the NSTB first.

of course the investigating agency would be pissed.

this is some unnecessary publicity stunt by Tesla that backfired

who the hell in Tesla thought that this was a good idea? (kinda fit the stereotype of arrogant maverick Silicon Valley hotshots though)
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I remember reading something about how long it took tesla to investigate some stuff ..which is it?
 
katanaD said:
so a government agency expecting everyone to follow its lead...

does anyone want to see my *shocked* face?


it was interesting yesterday as i looked more into this whole case and came across the form you have to sign to be a part of such an investigation.
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And you didn't post it?? Shame on you.
 
If I was making the cars I would do an internal investigation first to determine if it was a device/software fault then release the data.

They don't know tesla's coding or devices, and I think its fair they have to wait.

I would feel like tesla after being attacked every time some person ignored the road, crashed and blamed it on the car.

Even pilots don't go to sleep when the plane is flying with auto on.

To think you can set it and forget it is beyond stupid. Just like the person that set cruise in his RV and decided to make a meal. PEBIAU problem exists between interface and user.

Want to get in a car and not care about road conditions, hire a taxi or lemo.

Just like the moron who stubbes his toe in a city park on a concrete step, sued, won and now full cover foot wear is required and flip flops and bare feet are illegal.....
 
Natural selection...

But ffs they also should not call it autonomous .... Maybe lane assistance plus.
 
Spidey329 said:
They have to send a black box back to the airline manufacturer to read the data.

What's the difference here?
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Once the data is out it's in a standard format that is the same for all black boxes. Meaning the NTSB (or anyone else) can do an independent analysis.
 
Uvaman2 said:
I remember reading something about how long it took tesla to investigate some stuff ..which is it?
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probably both. Being slow to pass to NTSB when requested, and aggravating it by giving the entire package to the public before NTSB first.

( in matters of corporate and government approved media releases , it is hard to discern the actual fact when the use of weasel words, ambiguous phrasing, double-speak and the granddaddy of selective omission is the norm )
 
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It's simple really, the data should be made available as requested to the NTSB. No delays, no publicity stunts, etc.
 
viper1152012 said:
If I was making the cars I would do an internal investigation first to determine if it was a device/software fault then release the data.

They don't know tesla's coding or devices, and I think its fair they have to wait.

I would feel like tesla after being attacked every time some person ignored the road, crashed and blamed it on the car.

Even pilots don't go to sleep when the plane is flying with auto on.

To think you can set it and forget it is beyond stupid. Just like the person that set cruise in his RV and decided to make a meal. PEBIAU problem exists between interface and user.

Want to get in a car and not care about road conditions, hire a taxi or lemo.

Just like the moron who stubbes his toe in a city park on a concrete step, sued, won and now full cover foot wear is required and flip flops and bare feet are illegal.....
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The intelligence of the average American is dropping exponentially ..
 
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