Nvidia Has Been Sneaking a Slower MX150 Variant Into Some Ultrabooks

So, nVidia is going forward with the GPP to allow Gamers to know what they are buying ... and yet the 970 and now the MX150 hints that nVidia DOESN'T want gamers to know what they are buying.
 
How is it suddenly NVIDIA's fault if two OEMs happen to implement the MX150 in different ways? The specs on NVIDIA's website say this:

"The below specifications represent the GPU features available. Actual implementation may vary by OEM model. Please refer to OEM website for actual shipping specifications."

So different OEMs pick different trade-offs with the same part. NVIDIA just produced a flexible enough part to allow that to happen - I mean it IS good information to know to check how the MX150 performs, not to just rely on "MX150" but umm...isn't that kinda the same thing as "don't just see it has an SSD and assume it'll be awesome because of that." or whatever. Yes, you need to know the details, not just the damn part number. That isn't a new thing guys, that's been the case for 25 years or more now. ;)
 
seanreisk said:
This isn't another one of those where the branding is based on the SPECMark, is it? I read about something similar to this (from the very early 2000's) when both NVidia and ATI had a million different variants of their low end chips, and Radeon had three different memory architectures for the same (9500?) chip.

Anyway, I'm wondering if the 1D12's are all for 1366x768 screens where they can lower the power and the clock rate but still keep the same performance as a 1920x1080.


P.S. But in any case, fuck NVidia!

P.P.S. I am replaying Far Cry 4 to get ready for Far Cry 5, and I'd also like to say, "FUCK EAGLES!"

P.P.P.S. And fuck all those assholes who drive over the Sherpa while I'm running up to trade with him! Kyrat needs driverless cars.
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but... think about the children :p
 
Chimpee said:
Hmm I expect more from Nvidia to control their branding of the MX150
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It's funny how they are such control freaks when it comes to GPP and branding consistency, but when it comes to MX150 they don't give a fuck.
 
DTabakov said:
This is directly related to the cost of the devices. Look it up, look up the price of the Lenovo and the Asus, and than bark at nV again. Yeah, at the moment they are shitheads and it's kinda modern to throw mud at them.
However, I am absolutely sure that this is OEM's choice ;)
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My thought too.

Selling two easily confused parts so people don't know what that are buying, at least has a green NV logo, right?

Really up to the oem to know what they are buying and label it correctly.

I guess as long as it is clearly marked NV or not NV it is OK, right?
 
Elf_Boy said:
My thought too.

Selling two easily confused parts so people don't know what that are buying, at least has a green NV logo, right?

Really up to the oem to know what they are buying and label it correctly.

I guess as long as it is clearly marked NV or not NV it is OK, right?
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Could you please hold your horses. First, it's the OEM and not nV in this case. And I have never bought a product the way you describe it. And if the people are not morons (unfortunately probably 80-90% of the sheeple on this planet are complete and utter morons) they will read the specs of what they are buying. As in a previous post of mine (which you obviously ignored) this is due to Lenovo being cheap assholes again and pulling a fast one on their customers, and it is not the first nor the last time this will happen. Until there are morons out there, there will be companies like Lenovo pulling this shit.

Can you tell me how many times you have purchased something, without being prepared with the specs and reading them before making the purchase? I am doing this every single time. Plus it's a lot of fun to go into a huge electronics market and some assistant to try convince you to buy something, and when you start talking about the specs and he realizes that you know much much more than them. I am not saying this is something good, it is obviously bad. But you can not expect to pay so much less for basically what is the same thing inside and to expect there is not something weird about it. If you do however, than welcome to the sheeple herd.
 
1D10? That is so close to 1D10T, which would have been the perfect name for the slower variant.

Sadly, reality doesn't match comic potential.
 
LanceDiamond said:
How is it suddenly NVIDIA's fault if two OEMs happen to implement the MX150 in different ways? The specs on NVIDIA's website say this:

"The below specifications represent the GPU features available. Actual implementation may vary by OEM model. Please refer to OEM website for actual shipping specifications."
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The fact that the chips have different device ID's indicates this is done by nVidia, not the OEM.
 
Already learned to stayed away from 'mx' brand when they launched the GeForce 2 MX line
 
DTabakov said:
Could you please hold your horses. First, it's the OEM and not nV in this case. And I have never bought a product the way you describe it. And if the people are not morons (unfortunately probably 80-90% of the sheeple on this planet are complete and utter morons) they will read the specs of what they are buying. As in a previous post of mine (which you obviously ignored) this is due to Lenovo being cheap assholes again and pulling a fast one on their customers, and it is not the first nor the last time this will happen. Until there are morons out there, there will be companies like Lenovo pulling this shit.

Can you tell me how many times you have purchased something, without being prepared with the specs and reading them before making the purchase? I am doing this every single time. Plus it's a lot of fun to go into a huge electronics market and some assistant to try convince you to buy something, and when you start talking about the specs and he realizes that you know much much more than them. I am not saying this is something good, it is obviously bad. But you can not expect to pay so much less for basically what is the same thing inside and to expect there is not something weird about it. If you do however, than welcome to the sheeple herd.
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I don't belive you understood my post.

If you like taking jaunts at windmills, more power to you, not every building is of course a windmill.

I suggest you read up on certain other threads about a newly publicized NV program and reread my post.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
The fact that IBM picked the lower performance variant to ship in their product indicates that this was done by IBM.
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I think people are mixing two ideas.

Yes Nvidia is building two similar laptop GPUs. With very easy to confuse for the other specifics.

I can see why some would, in part blame NV.

The OEM is responsible for picking which part to use and build into the product. By choice or ignorance the OEM picked the evil twin GPU to build into their product.

IMO:
Most people don't feel the need to not just check the model/brand of a part. Needing to check the part number of an embedded GPU of a company who recently defended locking competitors out of retail brands in the name of people knowing what they are getting is inane.

We could argue who's fault it is forever. IMO both, but to what percent for each, can't say.
 
T_A said:
Already learned to stayed away from 'mx' brand when they launched the GeForce 2 MX line
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This was certainly a reasonable posture when talking about desktop cards, but in this case the MX150 is most certainly the fastest solution one can get at this level of TDP and in these form factors.
 
There are lots of wireless cards with the same model number and revision, but a different device ID, chip, and driver (often from a different manufacturer : broadcom vs asmedia, for example). It's annoying, but not uncommon.
 
DTabakov said:
This is directly related to the cost of the devices. Look it up, look up the price of the Lenovo and the Asus, and than bark at nV again. Yeah, at the moment they are shitheads and it's kinda modern to throw mud at them.

However, I am absolutely sure that this is OEM's choice ;)
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I would tend to agree.

Furthermore, around 2007 NVidia screwed the pooch with a similar chipset, the packaging was week, it was an engineering fault. OEMs had already sold thousands of them and no one wanted to recall them, NVidia looked for a fix, the best they could come up with was a firmware update to ......... underclock the GPU.

But in this case, if the OEMs aren't screaming about it then NVidia isn't sneaking anything, it's just the OEMs choosing a cheaper option trying to get costs lower and profits higher.
 
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