CCD MI-6: Performance in a 6.7L MIcrotower

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Firewolfy said:
That PSU and the cabling from Silverstone are both impressively big!
One thing I did on my Corsair PSU was removed the excess length and unused connectors from the SATA power cable, and just reinstalled the end connector back on the string to capture the end of the ribbon cable. Don't know if you can do that on SIlverstone though.
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I don't really want to cut the original cables, I neither trust myself nor my fingers enough. I was looking around, and I could buy PSU cables with desired connectors and length from cablemod, wich would get rid of the excess of cables and would bring better airflow and general overview.


Firewolfy said:
That Wraith Spire is 69-70mm tall right? There is only about 68mm of room, so yeah you are stuck with it not fitting inside the cover. Maybe swap the fan for a thin 92?
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I don't know if I should change out the fan or the hole cooler. rfarmer suggested the ID-Cooling IS-60, wich is 120 mm in size, 55 mm tall, and compatible to AM4. The larger fan could also help cooling down some motherboard compoments.
 
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That's 2mm shy of enough space for the Noctua L12S. (70mm) though I think the old L12 would fit.

I imagine if someone was brave enough to take a dremel to their l12s it could fit. Especially since the fan is mounted underneath the heatsink. Good to see enough room for some good aircoolers. (I'm about to install an L12S myself in a case that has exactly 70mm of clearance.. I'll report back if I think their is some posibility of extra headroom).
 
Neapolitan6th said:
That's 2mm shy of enough space for the Noctua L12S. (70mm) though I think the old L12 would fit.

I imagine if someone was brave enough to take a dremel to their l12s it could fit. Especially since the fan is mounted underneath the heatsink. Good to see enough room for some good aircoolers. (I'm about to install an L12S myself in a case that has exactly 70mm of clearance.. I'll report back if I think their is some posibility of extra headroom).
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Yes the L12 would fit since it was 66mm. I saw a guy in another thread that used a belt sander to reduce the height of a L12S, it did a good job of evenly reducing the height and he said performance wasn't impacted.
 
rfarmer said:
Yes the L12 would fit since it was 66mm. I saw a guy in another thread that used a belt sander to reduce the height of a L12S, it did a good job of evenly reducing the height and he said performance wasn't impacted.
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Good to know! People say really good things about the L12S so that's good to hear.
 
GermanDrifter97 said:
A tipp from me for future builds in the case would be to detach the mounting of the riser cable, than fit your GPU onto it, than reatach everything back in the case. I had trouble fitting my GTX 1080 without removing the mounting.
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GermanDrifter97,
I looked at TekEverything's review of the Giga GTX1080 Mini and noticed that there is a partial backplate on it. That might have been why it was difficult to install. Next time I would try removing 2 of the rubber bumpers, which will allow the card to sit closer to the center divider and mate to the connector easier.

EDIT -- Here is the photo I meant to include:
Back of Gigabyte GTX 1080 Mini - TekEverything .png
 
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Firewolfy said:
GermanDrifter97,
I looked at TekEverything's review of the Giga GTX1080 Mini and noticed that there is a partial backplate on it. That might have been why it was difficult to install. Next time I would try removing 2 of the rubber bumpers, which will allow the card to sit closer to the center divider and mate to the connector easier.
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oh ok, don't know if that was the reason, now everything fits perfectly.

I think the problem wasn't the backplate, I couldn't fit the right side of the PCIE connector into the riser cable while it was still fixed in the case. I haven't detected any interference with the rubber bumpers.
 
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GermanDrifter97 said:
oh ok, don't know if that was the reason, now everything fits perfectly.

I think the problem wasn't the backplate, I couldn't fit the right side of the PCIE connector into the riser cable while it was still fixed in the case. I haven't detected any interference with the rubber bumpers.
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Ok, thanks for the info. I'll do some install tests and see if there is a problem there. Any problems with the PCI-E connector latch?
 
Firewolfy said:
Ok, thanks for the info. I'll do some install tests and see if there is a problem there. Any problems with the PCI-E connector latch?
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Well, there was exactly half a millimeter of the PCIE connector that wasn't going under the little white latch of the riser cables socket. I guess it was just a bad angle to fit everything at once, the GPU slot at the back and the PCIE connector.
 
GermanDrifter97 said:
A tip from me for future builds in the case would be to detach the mounting of the riser cable, then fit your GPU onto it, then re-attach everything back in the case. I had trouble fitting my GTX 1080 without removing the mounting.
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I had a little difficulty with my GTX 1060 as well. I fiddled with it for a couple minutes because the card wouldn't go into the riser connector. I never figured out what the problem was because eventually, it just slid right in. My assumption is that the tolerances on the connector are tight and freedom to wiggle the card to get it aligned is limited.
 
I fit checked some cases here with a GPU and didn't seem to have a problem. But I think the PCIE connector tends to be a bit too far toward the back of the case for all the tolerances involved. Glad you guys got it to work ok. So loosening those connector mounting screws, or removing them as German did, should be a fix for those currently building cases.

For the cases yet to ship, I'll adjust the PCIE connector mounting screws to minimize the chance of a problem. For future runs, I'll move that connector location 1mm to eliminate problem.
 
Just got my MI-6 in the mail today!

Fred, you did an excellent job with this; kudos to you. Very glad I ended up going with the powder coat finish as it really cuts down on finger prints and scratches.

I was really impressed with the quality of the included accessories. The instruction card, the labeled screws, the branded accessory box. Everything feels premium here. If the case had shown up at my door as a surprise, I’d have never known it was a boutique design.

Thanks for the opportunity to be a part of this! Pics to come.
 
jamesman32 said:
Just got my MI-6 in the mail today!

Fred, you did an excellent job with this; kudos to you. Very glad I ended up going with the powder coat finish as it really cuts down on finger prints and scratches.

I was really impressed with the quality of the included accessories. The instruction card, the labeled screws, the branded accessory box. Everything feels premium here. If the case had shown up at my door as a surprise, I’d have never known it was a boutique design.

Thanks for the opportunity to be a part of this! Pics to come.
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I also received my powder coated MI-6 in the mail today and I completely agree with you, case looks really great and I can't wait to move my build into it.

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jamesman32 said:
Just got my MI-6 in the mail today!
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jamesman32 -- Great to hear you got it! I wanted to make all the packaging clear and straightforward, so I'm glad you like it.


rfarmer said:
I also received my powder coated MI-6 in the mail today and I completely agree with you, case looks really great and I can't wait to move my build into it.

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rfarmer -- Glad that you got the case. Hope you got a reasonably priced GPU;)
 
Firewolfy said:
jamesman32 -- Great to hear you got it! I wanted to make all the packaging clear and straightforward, so I'm glad you like it.




rfarmer -- Glad that you got the case. Hope you got a reasonably priced GPU;)
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Thanks Firewolfy not what I was hoping for but I did find a Gigabyte GTX 970 on ebay for $225, that will hold me over until more reasonable options show up.

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Size comparison between my M1 and the MI-6, this case is seriously small.

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MI-6 by CCD (Case by Case Design)
Intel i7 8700K delidded
Gigabyte Z370N itx
16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 MHz
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B with Prolimatech 140mm Vortex fan
IDCooling 92mm slim fan
Gigabyte GTX 970 mini
120GB MyDigitalSSD M.2 NVMe
512GB Silicon Power M.2 SATA III
480GB Sandisk Ultra 2.5 SSD
2TB Seagate BarraCuda 2.5 HDD
Corsair SF600

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rfarmer said:
Thanks Firewolfy not what I was hoping for but I did find a Gigabyte GTX 970 on ebay for $225, that will hold me over until more reasonable options show up.

Size comparison between my M1 and the MI-6, this case is seriously small.

MI-6 by CCD (Case by Case Design)
Intel i7 8700K delidded
Gigabyte Z370N itx
16GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 MHz
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B with Prolimatech 140mm Vortex fan
IDCooling 92mm slim fan
Gigabyte GTX 970 mini
120GB MyDigitalSSD M.2 NVMe
512GB Silicon Power M.2 SATA III
480GB Sandisk Ultra 2.5 SSD
2TB Seagate BarraCuda 2.5 HDD
Corsair SF600
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What are your temps with the 8700K and the Big Shuriken Cooler? Do you have direct die cooling or just changed out the thermal paste under the heatspreader?
 
GermanDrifter97 said:
What are your temps with the 8700K and the Big Shuriken Cooler? Do you have direct die cooling or just changed out the thermal paste under the heatspreader?
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Not direct die, I reattached the IHS and am using Coollaboratory Liquid Pro. After the delid when I first installed the Big Shuriken with the stock 120mm slim fan I ran 30 mins of Prime95 and max single core temp was 75C, this is at 4.30GHz and 1.20v. After moving to the MI-6 and switching fans to the Prolimatech 140mm slim I ran the same test and max single core temp was 71C. This was at max fans speed which is only 950rpm and very quiet. The Scythe fan wasn't extremely loud but it was audible.
 
If anyone is interested it might be possible to mount the Big Shuriken 2 on an AM4 Board: https://imgur.com/gallery/v0ud4. I am tempted to try this out on my build, since the Big Shuriken 2 could be better in the MI-6 than for example the NH L9x65 due to its bigger fan and better clearance towards the case wall.
 
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GermanDrifter97 said:
If anyone is interested it might be possible to mount the Big Shuriken 2 on an AM4 Board. I am tempted to try this out on my build, since the Big Shuriken 2 could be better in the MI-6 than for example the NH L9x65 due to its bigger fan and better clearance towards the case wall.
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I saw someone do it, they used a Noctua AM4 mounting kit and had to expand the holes a bit. Here's a link.
 
rfarmer said:
I saw someone do it, they used a Noctua AM4 mounting kit and had to expand the holes a bit. Here's a link.
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Two more questions:

how did you mount the fan on the heat sink? Do the stock mounting wires from the Shuriken fit the 140 mm fan?
And how is the ram clearance with the cooler on the mobo?
 
GermanDrifter97 said:
Two more questions:

how did you mount the fan on the heat sink? Do the stock mounting wires from the Shuriken fit the 140 mm fan?
And how is the ram clearance with the cooler on the mobo?
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I used the included fan clips, the Prolimatech has 120mm mounting holes. Ram clearance is 39mm, I am using Corsair Vengeance which is only 34mm so I had no issues.
 
GermanDrifter97 said:
Tek Everything made a Review of the MI-6 today

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Thanks for the link, I have been wanting to watch that.

Now the most important thing I took away from that video is that he installed a Noctua NHL12S in the MI-6 with no problem. Wish I had known that, I almost bought one anyway on the off chance that it would fit.
 
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rfarmer said:
Thanks for the link, I have been wanting to watch that.

Now the most important thing I took away from that video is that he installed a Noctua NHL12S in the MI-6 with no problem. Wish I had known that, I almost bought one anyway on the off chance that it would fit.
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Great point...!

One thing that bothered me, the reviewer talks about how the Noctua CPU cooler pulls air from inside the chassis & blows it out of the chassis, followed by a statement that a different CPU cooler designed to pull air INTO the chassis might work better...

At which time I am almost yelling at the monitor "Just flip the damned fan over...!"
 
Boil said:
Great point...!

One thing that bothered me, the reviewer talks about how the Noctua CPU cooler pulls air from inside the chassis & blows it out of the chassis, followed by a statement that a different CPU cooler designed to pull air INTO the chassis might work better...

At which time I am almost yelling at the monitor "Just flip the damned fan over...!"
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lol, I was thinking the exact same thing. I left a comment that I was getting 20C cooler with my cooler setup and a delid, he says that is his next step. He should be able to run at max 75C after delidding with his setup.
 
rfarmer said:
I used the included fan clips, the Prolimatech has 120mm mounting holes. Ram clearance is 39mm, I am using Corsair Vengeance which is only 34mm so I had no issues.
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Wait, the noctua fan screw holes are closed off, how are the fan clips holding onto it? Stock fan clips from a shuriken...
 
rfarmer said:
I don't have a Noctua, I am using the Big Shuriken 2.
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A shuriken with shuriken clips with a Noctua fan? Or at least the person in those pics does. I have the same but didn’t think I could use them together.
 
EnzoFX said:
A shuriken with shuriken clips with a Noctua fan? Or at least the person in those pics does. I have the same but didn’t think I could use them together.
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In the video that was posted Tek Everything used a Noctua NHL12S, that is the Noctua that was being discussed. GermanDrifter97 asked me how I had mounted the Prolimatech fan to my Big Shuriken 2 and I had responded to that.

Here is my set up.

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There was never a Shuriken with a Noctua fan being discussed.
 
rfarmer said:
In the video that was posted Tek Everything used a Noctua NHL12S, that is the Noctua that was being discussed. GermanDrifter97 asked me how I had mounted the Prolimatech fan to my Big Shuriken 2 and I had responded to that.

Here is my set up.

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There was never a Shuriken with a Noctua fan being discussed.
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My bad. That fan looks massive in there. Will have to check out how it compares to my Noctua.
 
Boil said:
Cable lengths...? Would you change the lengths at all if you could...?
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200mm on 24 pin and 8 pin EPS and 300mm on the PCI. The 200mm was the shortest I could get and I thought with the placement of the 8 pin and 24 pin you could go shorter but I am glad they are 200mm, needed a bit extra for routing around things. The PCI needs to be at least 300mm. The SATA power is 300mm which was the shortest I could get and that one I would have gone with 200mm. I got the cables from AliExpress because I got all of those for $25 shipped, I checked prices on CableMod and it was over $100 before shipping.
 
rfarmer said:
200mm on 24 pin and 8 pin EPS and 300mm on the PCI. The 200mm was the shortest I could get and I thought with the placement of the 8 pin and 24 pin you could go shorter but I am glad they are 200mm, needed a bit extra for routing around things. The PCI needs to be at least 300mm. The SATA power is 300mm which was the shortest I could get and that one I would have gone with 200mm. I got the cables from AliExpress because I got all of those for $25 shipped, I checked prices on CableMod and it was over $100 before shipping.
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rframer,
The price sounds sweet. How did you make sure to get the correct psu-side connectors and wiring on those cables?
 
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