Latest Windows Insider Build Shows New Privacy Screen Settings

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In a blog post yesterday Microsoft showed off a new privacy screen settings layout available now to Windows Insiders. The release will come this Spring for non-insiders, and Microsoft says "This new design conveys focused information to help our customers make focused choices about their privacy and offers two new settings for Inking & Typing and Find my device." However not everyone will get the same screen, others will get seven individual screens, each for a single privacy setting. Microsoft hopes that with releasing multiple experiences, they will be able to determine the best experience to roll out.

Making it clearer and easier to find understand, and ultimately turn everything off is a good thing. Hopefully in a few more years up updates we'll just get a global "OFF" switch.

We’re excited about the new Windows 10 update coming this spring that will deliver these new privacy set up experiences. All customers can review and update their privacy settings at any time in Start > Settings > Privacy.
 
In before all the hate for ms spools up. Oh, i forgot: fuck microsoft and the nonexistent privacy we've come to expect.
 
At least they are trying to address the hate. I mean honestly I am liking Win10 but only Pro and up I can't stand the limitations on Home it makes my skin crawl but I can also see that for 90% of home users it is enough.
 
I just finished deployment of 1709 (fall creator update) and it was such a mess , each update in the last 2-3 months causes more damage than good
i`m wasting a lot of my credit at work convincing people to give Win10 a chance, MS isn't making it easier.
 
And the update will automatically turn off any existing privacy settings you already have enabled.
It will default to turning on all tracking and all reporting back to the mother ship.
 
It's hard for me to trust Microsoft at this point unless there's some kind of third party audit performed. I'll just stick with Linux as my main OS and use Win 10 for the games not available under Linux.
 
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Latest Windows Insider Build Shows New Privacy Screen Settings
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Which bears a striking resemblance to the old privacy screen settings!
 
I was VERY glad to discover that my new work laptop, which arrived a couple days ago, was preinstalled with Windows 7 and not Windows 10. I will have to deal with this abomination of an OS when I build my gaming rig later this year, but I am just as happy to not have to deal with the crap OS any more than strictly necessary!
 
Do the settings actually DO anything or are they there to make people feel good about themselves thinking they shut off the spying?
 
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I'm sure it can be tested by someone technical if its actually working or not. I doubt MS would fake it, cause they would be found out fast.
 
Odd that this wasn't listed in the notes when i installed the latest version.
 
DustMite said:
Do the settings actually DO anything or are they there to make people feel good about themselves thinking they shut off the spying?
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Still no OFF switch, so no, nothing's changed. Like a doctor trying to convince you cancer is good for you, just explaining it in ever warmer words. MS tried this once before, claiming to have "addressed privacy concerns" but it was just a shuffling of UI elements and verbage.

The fact they even bother to mention "privacy" out of the blue telegraphs that they know it's still a huge issue keeping many people from moving to 10. The fact they're still dancing around with more half measures and slightly nicer lawyer language telegraphs that they still think it's all going to blow over and people will just forget about the need for an opt out.

Almost 3 years since 10 launched - sorry, but its never blowing over.
 
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T_A said:
I just finished deployment of 1709 (fall creator update) and it was such a mess , each update in the last 2-3 months causes more damage than good
i`m wasting a lot of my credit at work convincing people to give Win10 a chance, MS isn't making it easier.
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I work for Citrix, and have been dealing almost exclusively with Win10 upgrades for almost two years. It's been absolutely miserable. When even third party "partners" are writing scripts to disable garbage in your product, something is wrong.

...and don't even get me started on the POS start menu and the flaky-ass tile layer database (actually, "TileStore" now).
 
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I work for Citrix, and have been dealing almost exclusively with Win10 upgrades for almost two years. It's been absolutely miserable. When even third party "partners" are writing scripts to disable garbage in your product, something is wrong.

...and don't even get me started on the POS start menu and the flaky-ass tile layer database (actually, "TileStore" now).
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Yeah, I am mass deploying ChromeOS devices and using Citrix for all the stuff that doesn't port over which is a rapidly decreasing list.
 
At least Microsoft is somewhat addressing the privacy concerns, but I still don't believe I will have full control of my privacy using their product. As mentioned above, an OFF switch is still desired.
 
Over the course of the last year or so I've done a number of images for our workstations and noticed at least 2-3 changes in the privacy screen not including this one. I am happy though, it's been around 1-2 months since the last time I had to go around and manually update printer drivers after a patch Tuesday occurred. ;)
 
the-one1 said:
I just want an ON/OFF switch
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I noticed recently in the update settings and ever increasing sub menus they are going off the deep end with on/off switches. It seems like the pendulum is swinging to extremes now. Bottom line is more are there now(maybe not the right ones still), but it's a bit of a chore to find them and I'm not happy about that.
 
T_A said:
I just finished deployment of 1709 (fall creator update) and it was such a mess , each update in the last 2-3 months causes more damage than good
i`m wasting a lot of my credit at work convincing people to give Win10 a chance, MS isn't making it easier.
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Exactly, each update makes a few things slightly worse, while offering no real benefits. Mostly migrating more and more things from the CP to the useless settings metro app.
 
whats funny is MS was given shit for taking so long between patches/updates

Now, with win10, the near constant forced updates is a real pain.

but.. it is making me money

hahaha
 
Interesting, I've been doing this for years already

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What is funny about this forum. You have a thread about MoviePass where they state that by installing their app they record every thing you do. Who you call, who you text, who your contacts are, what web sites you go to on your phone, where you physically are 24x7, where you sit in the theater, what you purchased while there.... By using their service for cheap movie tickets you are giving up your entire live and allowing them to record and sell all of that info for everything on your phone. And everyone is fine with that, the argument is that Apple and Google are already doing that so what matters if somebody else is doing that. Then you come here were Microsoft records what updates you have installed and how you use programs and nope it is the end of the world, fuck Microsoft how dare they track any information nobody else would do this.. So in one thread everyone states it is fine to do this, in another nobody should do this.
 
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What is funny about this forum. You have a thread about MoviePass where they state that by installing their app they record every thing you do. Who you call, who you text, who your contacts are, what web sites you go to on your phone, where you physically are 24x7, where you sit in the theater, what you purchased while there.... By using their service for cheap movie tickets you are giving up your entire live and allowing them to record and sell all of that info for everything on your phone. And everyone is fine with that, the argument is that Apple and Google are already doing that so what matters if somebody else is doing that. Then you come here were Microsoft records what updates you have installed and how you use programs and nope it is the end of the world, fuck Microsoft how dare they track any information nobody else would do this.. So in one thread everyone states it is fine to do this, in another nobody should do this.
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Don't play dumb. The difference is that you're still paying over $100 for the Windows license. Features have been removed and spying added... and yet the price is the same. When you use a service like Movie Pass or a free Google OS it's understood that advertising is the revenue model.

A few years back Microsoft had a rather different strategy... seems like now you're getting Microshafted.

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DeathFromBelow said:
Don't play dumb. The difference is that you're still paying over $100 for the Windows license. Features have been removed and spying added... and yet the price is the same. When you use a service like Movie Pass or a free Google OS it's understood that advertising is the revenue model.

A few years back Microsoft had a rather different strategy... seems like now you're getting Microshafted.

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Your argument isn't valid as Windows 10 was a free upgrade for most people running it. Also most people get it free with a computer as most don't build computers. Also your iPhone wasn't free and the OS is made by Apple along with the phone. Google Pixel is made by Google along with the phone. So both of them made their money for the OS as part of the cost of the phone.

Also tracking what updates you have installed is different from keeping a list of every file along with the contents of said files on your computer.
 
Flapjack said:
I work for Citrix, and have been dealing almost exclusively with Win10 upgrades for almost two years. It's been absolutely miserable. When even third party "partners" are writing scripts to disable garbage in your product, something is wrong.

...and don't even get me started on the POS start menu and the flaky-ass tile layer database (actually, "TileStore" now).
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My experience exactly , lots scripts to uninstall crap , setup custom settings that are of course not in GPO (and some GPOs that don`t even do anything)
Start layout export/import (which is flaky and inconsistent ) and file associations via xml which is pita to maintain.

Thanks MS for making it 10x harder to maintain and manage in enterprise environment .
 
Ummmm, no. The os was never free. we paid for 7 and the upgrade was forced on some users. You don't get it free with a computer. You are still paying for it. Those of us that are smart enough to not be conned by ms are still using 7 or have moved on to linux.
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Your argument isn't valid as Windows 10 was a free upgrade for most people running it. Also most people get it free with a computer as most don't build computers. Also your iPhone wasn't free and the OS is made by Apple along with the phone. Google Pixel is made by Google along with the phone. So both of them made their money for the OS as part of the cost of the phone.

Also tracking what updates you have installed is different from keeping a list of every file along with the contents of said files on your computer.
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bobdabilder said:
Ummmm, no. The os was never free. we paid for 7 and the upgrade was forced on some users. You don't get it free with a computer. You are still paying for it. Those of us that are smart enough to not be conned by ms are still using 7 or have moved on to linux.
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The point being made is that consumers don't directly pay for operating systems. They pay directly for hardware, apps and services. Whatever the cost is of the various components of the hardware and software of the device a consumer buys is at best obscure to the typical end user. And it's not a matter of being "conned" by MS for many people. We simply use hardware or software that doesn't work with other OSes. Windows 7 on a 2 in 1 is beyond not useful. Linux doesn't have the backwards compatibility of Windows 10 for Windows software dating back many years.

As soon as there is something that has the 3rd party support of Windows without the problems of Windows and is free as in beer, that's the end of Windows. It's that simple.
 
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Your argument isn't valid as Windows 10 was a free upgrade for most people running it. Also most people get it free with a computer as most don't build computers. Also your iPhone wasn't free and the OS is made by Apple along with the phone. Google Pixel is made by Google along with the phone. So both of them made their money for the OS as part of the cost of the phone.

Also tracking what updates you have installed is different from keeping a list of every file along with the contents of said files on your computer.
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lol. Your license got transferred, you paid for it. You buy a computer with a windows coa, you paid for it, it's just not itemised just like that capacitor c22 on the main board isn't itemised.

Microsoft hopes that with releasing multiple experiences, they will be able to determine the best experience to roll out.
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They already had it, it's windows 7.
 
MV75 said:
They already had it, it's windows 7.
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But that was 9 years ago, it's a much different consumer tech world now, desktop OSes simply don't mean as much to consumers now and I don't think the consumer world is clamoring for something like desktop Linux.
 
MV75 said:
lol. Your license got transferred, you paid for it. You buy a computer with a windows coa, you paid for it, it's just not itemised just like that capacitor c22 on the main board isn't itemised.



They already had it, it's windows 7.
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The same can be said then about iOS. Part of buying an iPhone pays for the OS. Part of buying a Pixel or Chrome book pays for android. Part of paying for a fire stick or whatever goes toward the OS. The argument made was that every single OS in the world is free so it is ok for everyone else besides Microsoft to gather all the info they want because they deserve that right since you are getting something for free. regardless of what you say you got the upgrade to 10 for free forced or not.

you guys are bending over backwards to make it out that everyone else is perfect in every aspect and should be given a pass on everything and that Microsoft is evil in every aspect. I beg to differ and say they are are equal. What is ok for one is ok for all. What is wrong for one is wrong for all.
 
I like how you minimize the spying that windows is doing. Keep telling yourself that and you might believe it. Windows 10 is not free so the comparison is invalid. What they are doing is pure garbage.
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haha. So people use a program that turns off data tracking that itself makes a list of all your hardware and software, along with all your personal information. But I guess that is ok for that company to gather that information because it is a free program and they need to make money somehow.
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Thanks for "breaking it down" for me. Yes people do pay directly for windows 10. You think they're handing that shit out for free? To have upgraded to it meant you had a license for 7 etc. I know exactly what the point being made is and it's wrong!
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The point being made is that consumers don't directly pay for operating systems. They pay directly for hardware, apps and services. Whatever the cost is of the various components of the hardware and software of the device a consumer buys is at best obscure to the typical end user. And it's not a matter of being "conned" by MS for many people. We simply use hardware or software that doesn't work with other OSes. Windows 7 on a 2 in 1 is beyond not useful. Linux doesn't have the backwards compatibility of Windows 10 for Windows software dating back many years.

As soon as there is something that has the 3rd party support of Windows without the problems of Windows and is free as in beer, that's the end of Windows. It's that simple.
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bobdabilder said:
To have upgraded to it meant you had a license for 7 etc.
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So one bought a laptop with Windows 7 or 8.1 and could get Windows 10 for free. I never said there wasn't a cost associated with Windows. There is a cost associated with any OS on any device unless all of that development is done from free developers. And that's clearly not the case for level of skill. It's simply a matter of how the cost of the development of that OS is charged.
 
heatlesssun said:
But that was 9 years ago, it's a much different consumer tech world now
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Netmarketshare shows Windows 7 still has more market share than 10. 10 has been out for years now...

All the data indicates that users prefer 7. Not really sure what there's to be gained by denial of the fact that Windows 10 is a failure.
 
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